GT-5 Gyro Touch Flybarless System

falke398 · 07-20-2011, 06:49 PM

GT-5 Gyro Touch Flybarless System from Thunder Tiger
Anyone heard or even tried one of these FBL systems?

http://www.thundertiger-europe.com/i...=24&tt_news=85
http://www.infinity-hobby.com/main/a...rticles_id=226
http://www.rchelire_source.com/news-...arless-system/ remove the "_"
https://www.facebook.com/ThunderTige...89878731044154

I like the use interface...

falke398 · 08-05-2011, 04:10 AM

something new:
http://www.rcmania.hk/Advertising/gt-5-ad.jpeg

falke398 · 08-05-2011, 01:33 PM

infinity-hobby has some more information now.
price: $239???
http://www.infinity-hobby.com/main/a...rticles_id=235

1004ron · 08-06-2011, 11:18 PM

Looks good - German Tech.

http://www.heligarage.at/shop/index.php?a=19754

http://www.hangarone.co.nz/thunder-t...1af65c7b960a34
This product will be in stock on Tuesday 30 August, 2011.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jK8d4JgJNe4&feature=player_embedded#at=235

nightrider · 10-12-2011, 10:48 PM

Has anyone actually used one? Keen to know more about it, very little info around.

I noticed revmax hobbies is selling them for $189, seems very cheap compared to other similar 3axis gyro's, does it mean they are a cheap fbl system and should be avoided?

dmulligan · 10-13-2011, 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nightrider

Has anyone actually used one? Keen to know more about it, very little info around.

I noticed revmax hobbies is selling them for $189, seems very cheap compared to other similar 3axis gyro's, does it mean they are a cheap fbl system and should be avoided?

That isn't much cheaper than the beastx which is a proven system. The beastx can be had for 199.

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Trooper Sam · 10-13-2011, 12:10 PM

Tower has it now...

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...6&I=LXBMEB&P=K

I'm keeping my eye on the reports, at least when there are some.

NitroAl · 10-14-2011, 11:14 PM

It's one of the best! http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=343454

JiriK · 10-16-2011, 01:56 PM

I´m installing a GT5 to my fbl MSH Protos.

At first that touch "button" felt a bit strange, but one gets used to it fast and then it is the best!

I guess there are not many who have experience with this unit..

I have a couple of problems:
1. When I connect battery to Bec, rudder servo drives to one end and stays binding until GT5 has booted up. Some setting wrong? I set travel adjustment so servo does not bind in normal operation. It does this only when connecting power.

2. Swash menu, trying to adjust collective and ail/ele pitch. Collective adjusts ok, if I move stick to full positive pitch and change the value, swash moves and pitch changes. Ail and Ele - swash tilts if I move stick but fbl unit adjustment does not seem to move it at all.

3. If I increase total gain (from transmitter) amount of swash tilting in ail and ele- directions increases a lot when moving the stick. So much that servos are binding.

Must be something I´m not getting right now..
I can setup microBeast, miniVbar and CGY750.

JiriK · 10-18-2011, 10:09 AM

A little follow up.

1. TT has seen this happen with some cheap servos. -> try a big brand ($$) servo.
Ok, so I tried with Futaba S9257. Problem is gone!

imho, cheap fbl controller should work with cheap servos.
Microbeast, Vbar and CGY750 all work just fine with that emax ES9257..

tracerbob · 10-18-2011, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trooper Sam

Tower has it now...

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...6&I=LXBMEB&P=K

I'm keeping my eye on the reports, at least when there are some.

This one has disappeared from Tower for some reason.

tracerbob · 10-18-2011, 04:41 PM

Yes, it does work. My PC at work was doing strange things. Wish we would hire a real IT person, Jeez. Anyway, just ordered one from Tower. We'll how it works.

Cheers

jockstrap · 10-22-2011, 04:29 AM

I received mine a few days ago from Revmax in Oz ($189AU - about the same US atm..) - looks really sweet..

Anyway - havn't had time to fit mine yet but a friend has one fitted to his new Raptor G4 and I had the chance to see it fly today doing some hard Smack 3D..

All I could say is "WOW"... this gyro is going to give vbar a run for it's money.. seriously..

It performed flawlessly over very hard stop maneuvers.. Tail didn't falter once and cyclic crisp and locked... piros were dead flat and smooth...

Can't wait to try mine now..

ranma103 · 11-18-2011, 04:19 PM

Well after finding out about the issue with the vibe filter I took my X50 out for a fly yesterday. I was very impressed the heli sat like a rock but did not have the robot feel i've had from the vbar. While flying I made a few adjustments droped my total gain to 96% then I droped the eli and ali gains in the swash menu to 75% as I found the rates to be real quick. Still more testing to come.

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mrultralite · 11-25-2011, 11:19 AM

I'm not so sure about this anymore, on the other thread, i learn that i can't adjust 'total gain' whatever that is, without a 7 ch Tx . How many here are using the DX6i?

NitroAl · 11-25-2011, 11:22 PM

Why can't you use the gyro gain channel? That's how I set mine up!
I don't know if you can assign a switch for different gain settings like I have in my DSX11 but you could set it up so you have say 60% in normal 85% in idle1 and 100% in idle2 just for the initial set up procedure so you can find the optimal gain!

mrultralite · 11-26-2011, 01:13 AM

Yes there's something about that in the manual , just not sure how yet.

superflY851 · 11-28-2011, 06:50 PM

I thought that was strange also. The manual says that when using the satellite receivers, the 7th channel is for total gain. But you only need 6 channels for an electric heli. You could just use a normal receiver and it's a non issue or just pick up a used DX7 for cheap.

I'm using mine on a nitro with a normal receiver and my 7th channel is for my governor so i can't test it.

HeliBenj · 12-02-2011, 12:55 PM

Also if you can't use the gyro menu you can still use end points on channel 7 to effect gain. Just check on the gt5 display that it actually moves as you move endpoints

seemore74 · 12-04-2011, 03:12 AM

Ok, another question, if chnl7 on the GT5 is for proportional gain between tail & head (if i'm correct that is) then is chnl5 on the GT5 used for tail gain as normal?
my reason for this is that i've tried adjusting gyro gain in my Tx gyro menu (futaba 10c) & i cannot see any difference with + & - values (for rate & Hhold normally) on the GT5 display or with it's reaction (tail slider going to center in rate & staying put in Hhold)

07-20-2011, 06:49 PM	#1
falke398 Registered Users Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Mountain View, CA	GT-5 Gyro Touch Flybarless System GT-5 Gyro Touch Flybarless System from Thunder Tiger Anyone heard or even tried one of these FBL systems? http://www.thundertiger-europe.com/i...=24&tt_news=85 http://www.infinity-hobby.com/main/a...rticles_id=226 http://www.rchelire_source.com/news-...arless-system/ remove the "_" https://www.facebook.com/ThunderTige...89878731044154 I like the use interface...

08-06-2011, 11:18 PM	#4
1004ron Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Louisville, KY	Looks good - German Tech. http://www.heligarage.at/shop/index.php?a=19754 http://www.hangarone.co.nz/thunder-t...1af65c7b960a34 This product will be in stock on Tuesday 30 August, 2011. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jK8d4JgJNe4&feature=player_embedded#at=235 __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. SAB Goblin 700 - CCHV120 - BEC Pro - AR7200BX - TM1000 / T-Rex 450 Sport - 3GX - Tarot head / 450 Pro - GT5 - Tarot head / T-Rex 550 V2.1 - CC100 - BEC Pro - AR7200BX - TM1000 /

10-13-2011, 12:10 PM	#7
Trooper Sam Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: May 2006 Location: Perris, CA UNITED STATES OF AMERICA	Tower has it now... http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...6&I=LXBMEB&P=K I'm keeping my eye on the reports, at least when there are some. __________________ Trooper Sam -Planks are like feel-good buddy movies, and helis are like horror movies. You just gotta like being scared.

10-14-2011, 11:14 PM	#8
NitroAl Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Gold Coast Australia	It's one of the best! http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=343454 __________________ CustomHeliParts/KDE TRex 700N ThunderTiger X50 FBL Ely.Q Vision 90 Ely.Q Vision 50

10-16-2011, 01:56 PM	#9
JiriK Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Finland	I´m installing a GT5 to my fbl MSH Protos. At first that touch "button" felt a bit strange, but one gets used to it fast and then it is the best! I guess there are not many who have experience with this unit.. I have a couple of problems: 1. When I connect battery to Bec, rudder servo drives to one end and stays binding until GT5 has booted up. Some setting wrong? I set travel adjustment so servo does not bind in normal operation. It does this only when connecting power. 2. Swash menu, trying to adjust collective and ail/ele pitch. Collective adjusts ok, if I move stick to full positive pitch and change the value, swash moves and pitch changes. Ail and Ele - swash tilts if I move stick but fbl unit adjustment does not seem to move it at all. 3. If I increase total gain (from transmitter) amount of swash tilting in ail and ele- directions increases a lot when moving the stick. So much that servos are binding. Must be something I´m not getting right now.. I can setup microBeast, miniVbar and CGY750. __________________ Henseleit TDR + MSH miniProtos fbl + nanocpx Futaba, Spektrum & Visa... Last edited by JiriK; 10-16-2011 at 04:07 PM..

08-05-2011, 04:10 AM	#2
falke398 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Mountain View, CA	something new: http://www.rcmania.hk/Advertising/gt-5-ad.jpeg

08-05-2011, 01:33 PM	#3
falke398 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Mountain View, CA	infinity-hobby has some more information now. price: $239??? http://www.infinity-hobby.com/main/a...rticles_id=235

10-12-2011, 10:48 PM	#5
nightrider Registered Users Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: sunshine coast, australia	Has anyone actually used one? Keen to know more about it, very little info around. I noticed revmax hobbies is selling them for $189, seems very cheap compared to other similar 3axis gyro's, does it mean they are a cheap fbl system and should be avoided?

10-18-2011, 10:09 AM	#10
JiriK Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Finland	A little follow up. 1. TT has seen this happen with some cheap servos. -> try a big brand ($$) servo. Ok, so I tried with Futaba S9257. Problem is gone! imho, cheap fbl controller should work with cheap servos. Microbeast, Vbar and CGY750 all work just fine with that emax ES9257.. __________________ Henseleit TDR + MSH miniProtos fbl + nanocpx Futaba, Spektrum & Visa...

10-18-2011, 04:41 PM	#12
tracerbob Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NW Florida	Yes, it does work. My PC at work was doing strange things. Wish we would hire a real IT person, Jeez. Anyway, just ordered one from Tower. We'll how it works. Cheers __________________ It is what it is

10-22-2011, 04:29 AM	#13
jockstrap Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia	I received mine a few days ago from Revmax in Oz ($189AU - about the same US atm..) - looks really sweet.. Anyway - havn't had time to fit mine yet but a friend has one fitted to his new Raptor G4 and I had the chance to see it fly today doing some hard Smack 3D.. All I could say is "WOW"... this gyro is going to give vbar a run for it's money.. seriously.. It performed flawlessly over very hard stop maneuvers.. Tail didn't falter once and cyclic crisp and locked... piros were dead flat and smooth... Can't wait to try mine now.. __________________ DX7 Mode-1 \| T-Rex 250 \| EP200SE V2 \| Tricopter \| Quadcopter 450 pro 6s fbl 3X1000 \| 450 pro fbl beastx \| Schweizer 300C Gasser Scale \|T-Rex550e 600 vbar \| Aeolus 50 HeliX T-Rex700 fbl Gasser \| HWC600 321puh Gasser fbl\| Henseleit TDR

11-18-2011, 04:19 PM	#14
ranma103 Registered Users Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Coffs Coast Australia	Well after finding out about the issue with the vibe filter I took my X50 out for a fly yesterday. I was very impressed the heli sat like a rock but did not have the robot feel i've had from the vbar. While flying I made a few adjustments droped my total gain to 96% then I droped the eli and ali gains in the swash menu to 75% as I found the rates to be real quick. Still more testing to come. Sent from my GalaxyTab using Tapatalk Pro __________________ My Fleet: Gaui NX4 FBL (SK-540) / T-Rex 700N FBL OS GT15 HZ (SK-540) / Heli X G700 FBL (CGY-750)

11-25-2011, 11:19 AM	#15
mrultralite Registered Users Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Abbotsford BC canada	I'm not so sure about this anymore, on the other thread, i learn that i can't adjust 'total gain' whatever that is, without a 7 ch Tx . How many here are using the DX6i?

11-25-2011, 11:22 PM	#16
NitroAl Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Gold Coast Australia	Why can't you use the gyro gain channel? That's how I set mine up! I don't know if you can assign a switch for different gain settings like I have in my DSX11 but you could set it up so you have say 60% in normal 85% in idle1 and 100% in idle2 just for the initial set up procedure so you can find the optimal gain! __________________ CustomHeliParts/KDE TRex 700N ThunderTiger X50 FBL Ely.Q Vision 90 Ely.Q Vision 50

11-26-2011, 01:13 AM	#17
mrultralite Registered Users Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Abbotsford BC canada	Yes there's something about that in the manual , just not sure how yet.

11-28-2011, 06:50 PM	#18
superflY851 Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Centreville, VA	I thought that was strange also. The manual says that when using the satellite receivers, the 7th channel is for total gain. But you only need 6 channels for an electric heli. You could just use a normal receiver and it's a non issue or just pick up a used DX7 for cheap. I'm using mine on a nitro with a normal receiver and my 7th channel is for my governor so i can't test it. __________________ We can rebuild it, We have the technology. Better, stronger, faster.... T-Rex 450, T-Rex 500, T-Rex 600N Pro

12-02-2011, 12:55 PM	#19
HeliBenj Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Provence, France	Also if you can't use the gyro menu you can still use end points on channel 7 to effect gain. Just check on the gt5 display that it actually moves as you move endpoints __________________ Ben Goblin 500 IKON w/ gov, Quantum 4115-1200, Hitec 5245, BLS251 DX8, RF6

12-04-2011, 03:12 AM	#20
seemore74 Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: london	Ok, another question, if chnl7 on the GT5 is for proportional gain between tail & head (if i'm correct that is) then is chnl5 on the GT5 used for tail gain as normal? my reason for this is that i've tried adjusting gyro gain in my Tx gyro menu (futaba 10c) & i cannot see any difference with + & - values (for rate & Hhold normally) on the GT5 display or with it's reaction (tail slider going to center in rate & staying put in Hhold) __________________ Shape 9.0, Goblin 700 (yellow & orange) , Outrage G5 all FBL MKS Cyclics & Rudder Servos all round. Futaba SBus Rx, Futaba 8FG transmission.

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