DJI S800 + Z15

raytang · 03-21-2012, 01:48 PM

YouTube

sidneyw · 03-28-2012, 06:32 PM

POWERFTK · 03-29-2012, 09:23 PM

http://youtu.be/F5w6fgNHEjM

Exposure · 03-30-2012, 02:47 AM

Seems like this system has a problem to keep the horizon level ??

POWERFTK · 04-30-2012, 02:50 PM

no bad

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Exposure · 05-01-2012, 01:11 AM

lol - I can see you did your best to keep any horizon reference out of the video, but where it does dare to sneak in, you can see that it isn't level.

Plus what is going on with that slewing control ?. Way to harsh for any video work.

yeehaanow · 05-01-2012, 10:41 AM

Follow the YT link, this is not powerftk's vid.
I don't think there was an active camera op on that, it may have been just the pilot, so I wouldn't read too much into the controlled 'movements'. Who even knows what they were testing???
Even if a slow drift occurs, which could easily be corrected by a camera op, to shoot in those conditions and to achieve that type of stability is quite amazing. Look at the part when you can see the landing gear. There are fast bounces bordering on vibration that don't even register in the camera. In my book, that is way more important and useful than keeping a level horizon for long periods of time.
Not trying to defend their product, just putting it in perspective.

EDIT- In fact, you can see at 1:53 that only one person is flying, and without a monitor.

Exposure · 05-01-2012, 01:27 PM

Ahh - looking on Youtube, I see the poster is a DJI rep so I'll wait until believers like you fork out the 3K.

This is why I don't trust promo videos : that camera angle has been carefully set to avoid getting the horizon in the video. What else has been avoided ?.

yeehaanow · 05-01-2012, 01:52 PM

It's not a promo video. It's just another test video.
I think the only thing done carefully was to keep the copter from blowing away.

It's a damn gale force wind with no camera op!
They're not hiding anything by the angle of the camera. It's clear as day that it begins off-level and pretty much stays at the same angle the entire time. You're missing the point- which is the fact that it's possible to get usable video in conditions that are usually off limits.

I won't be buying one, and I only believe what I see. I think it's at least fair to say that no commercial gimbal has been that stable in crazy wind like that. This is a first.
The point I stop getting usable video on my multirotor you can barely see the trees moving.

Someone posted in another forum somewhere that even the million $ cineflex mounts have drift over time, and have to be 'nulled' at points.

Anto6ka · 05-01-2012, 01:53 PM

The horizon was not level right from the start, and it was maintained almost the same all the time. So I would say the system performs quite well. If they initially had it level guess it would stay so.
EDIT: Yeehaanow, you were the first to point this out, guess we started commenting in the same time.

Brad_M · 05-01-2012, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yeehaanow

I won't be buying one, and I only believe what I see. I think it's at least fair to say that no commercial gimbal has been that stable in crazy wind like that. This is a first.

+1

I am the same... probably worse. I barely believe what I see and nothing I hear as far as this stuff goes. It only takes buying a few of these to realize that most footage is very carefully shot as I expect they should in a business where selling smooth footage is the goal. Still this looks pretty darn decent for a carefully shot Rep Test/promo/ propaganda or whatever we call it video in heavy winds. Looking forward to seeing footage off the larger gimbal as this is for sure too small for my needs.

POWERFTK · 05-29-2012, 03:45 PM

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Adidas4275 · 05-29-2012, 04:08 PM

i am by no means a DJI fan.... but roberts videos have really caught my eye.... the zen gimbal system is amazing.... no servos (brushless motors) and a built in IMU. it is $$$ and only for the Nex-5n and GH2 (separate SKUs) but non the less impressive

YouTube

this is impressive....

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the only thing that I have see that is even close is the cinestar gimbal and new IMU system

PhotoShip One · 05-29-2012, 06:46 PM

Just FYI,

We're carrying the full DJI lineup. S800, Zenmuse, Wookong, Ace One, F550, F450, etc.

We have a few items on the web shop now and will have it all up soon.

Adidas4275 · 05-29-2012, 09:10 PM

that is cool.... to see them as a partner rather than a competitor... and your working with Gaui???? i guess their overlap is not that big

Exposure · 05-30-2012, 08:11 AM

Anybody know if the cinestar system is standalone ?.

It's the only one I've seen stabilising a full 5D setup.

PhotoShip One · 05-30-2012, 01:30 PM

Quote:

that is cool.... to see them as a partner rather than a competitor... and your working with Gaui???? i guess their overlap is not that big

I don't think DJI has ever been a competitor to us. We do not make multirotor components. Yes, they have a gimbal now but it's price point is beyond what our target gimbal customer is paying. We see it as an opportunity to offer a type of product we previously did not.

We are not working 'with' Gaui in a collaborative/partnership effort but rather we will be selling their products as soon as they are released. We will be helping promote them and sharing tent space with them at IRCHA event along with Empire and Scorpion.

POWERFTK · 06-03-2012, 11:44 PM

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POWERFTK · 06-30-2012, 01:47 PM

It looks like DJI's S800s are being recalled due to an ESC problem.

Any comment from DJI on this?

DJI S800 Product Bulletin

Dear Valued DJI Innovations customers:

DJI Innovations has determined that the Electronic Speed Controllers in certain S800 Hexacopters manufactured between May 2012 and June 28 2012 could have higher than expected temperature affecting an unknown number of units. Your confidence in our products is paramount; DJI Innovations is conducting a voluntary program to replace those parts free of charge.

Please email your order details to s800@dji-innovations.com to see if this bulletin applies; we will then issue an RMA number and instructions to send in your parts for repair.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause, but rest assured we will always do everything in our power to insure your safety and satisfaction

05-29-2012, 06:46 PM	#14
PhotoShip One Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Mesa, AZ	Just FYI, We're carrying the full DJI lineup. S800, Zenmuse, Wookong, Ace One, F550, F450, etc. We have a few items on the web shop now and will have it all up soon. __________________ DJ Vegh PhotoShip One

06-30-2012, 01:47 PM	#19
POWERFTK Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: US CA LOS ANGELES	DJI S800 Recall? It looks like DJI's S800s are being recalled due to an ESC problem. Any comment from DJI on this? DJI S800 Product Bulletin Dear Valued DJI Innovations customers: DJI Innovations has determined that the Electronic Speed Controllers in certain S800 Hexacopters manufactured between May 2012 and June 28 2012 could have higher than expected temperature affecting an unknown number of units. Your confidence in our products is paramount; DJI Innovations is conducting a voluntary program to replace those parts free of charge. Please email your order details to s800@dji-innovations.com to see if this bulletin applies; we will then issue an RMA number and instructions to send in your parts for repair. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause, but rest assured we will always do everything in our power to insure your safety and satisfaction

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03-28-2012, 06:32 PM	#2
sidneyw Registered Users Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Lake Zurich, IL

03-29-2012, 09:23 PM	#3
POWERFTK Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: US CA LOS ANGELES	http://youtu.be/F5w6fgNHEjM

03-30-2012, 02:47 AM	#4
Exposure Registered Users Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bonny Scotland	Seems like this system has a problem to keep the horizon level ??

05-01-2012, 01:11 AM	#6
Exposure Registered Users Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bonny Scotland	lol - I can see you did your best to keep any horizon reference out of the video, but where it does dare to sneak in, you can see that it isn't level. Plus what is going on with that slewing control ?. Way to harsh for any video work.

05-01-2012, 10:41 AM	#7
yeehaanow Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Vermont	Follow the YT link, this is not powerftk's vid. I don't think there was an active camera op on that, it may have been just the pilot, so I wouldn't read too much into the controlled 'movements'. Who even knows what they were testing??? Even if a slow drift occurs, which could easily be corrected by a camera op, to shoot in those conditions and to achieve that type of stability is quite amazing. Look at the part when you can see the landing gear. There are fast bounces bordering on vibration that don't even register in the camera. In my book, that is way more important and useful than keeping a level horizon for long periods of time. Not trying to defend their product, just putting it in perspective. EDIT- In fact, you can see at 1:53 that only one person is flying, and without a monitor.

05-01-2012, 01:27 PM	#8
Exposure Registered Users Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bonny Scotland	Ahh - looking on Youtube, I see the poster is a DJI rep so I'll wait until believers like you fork out the 3K. This is why I don't trust promo videos : that camera angle has been carefully set to avoid getting the horizon in the video. What else has been avoided ?.

05-01-2012, 01:52 PM	#9
yeehaanow Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Vermont	It's not a promo video. It's just another test video. I think the only thing done carefully was to keep the copter from blowing away. It's a damn gale force wind with no camera op! They're not hiding anything by the angle of the camera. It's clear as day that it begins off-level and pretty much stays at the same angle the entire time. You're missing the point- which is the fact that it's possible to get usable video in conditions that are usually off limits. I won't be buying one, and I only believe what I see. I think it's at least fair to say that no commercial gimbal has been that stable in crazy wind like that. This is a first. The point I stop getting usable video on my multirotor you can barely see the trees moving. Someone posted in another forum somewhere that even the million $ cineflex mounts have drift over time, and have to be 'nulled' at points.

05-01-2012, 01:53 PM	#10
Anto6ka Registered Users Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chisinau	The horizon was not level right from the start, and it was maintained almost the same all the time. So I would say the system performs quite well. If they initially had it level guess it would stay so. EDIT: Yeehaanow, you were the first to point this out, guess we started commenting in the same time.

05-29-2012, 09:10 PM	#15
Adidas4275 Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Fresno,Ca	that is cool.... to see them as a partner rather than a competitor... and your working with Gaui???? i guess their overlap is not that big

05-30-2012, 08:11 AM	#16
Exposure Registered Users Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bonny Scotland	Anybody know if the cinestar system is standalone ?. It's the only one I've seen stabilising a full 5D setup.