EMBLA - building; setups; advices. - Page 2

gratefulfrog · 12-09-2011, 10:37 AM

Hi Hirobo Freaks!

The posts are great! Thanks for sharing!

For those who read German, or can use Google Translate, Rüdiger Feil has posted a series of descriptions at: http://www.hirobo-online.de/communit...ger/index.html

Ciao,
Bob

7.62x51 · 12-09-2011, 12:29 PM

Ciao Bob

many thanks.
I read a lot of times Rudi's blog. Thanks to him i chose to buy Hirobo's 450...

gratefulfrog · 12-10-2011, 10:58 AM

Hi Fabio!

Indeed, Rudi Feil is a really nice guy.

Thanks to him I got a 2.4GHz FAAST Quark SG, and an elecric conversion SA315B Lama - I already had a Lepton! I really believe that Hirobo makes top quality helis and the service that Rudi offers is also top quality!

I'm sure he would be happy to help if you ever need any advice, just write to him! I do all the time!

Ciao,
Bob

7.62x51 · 12-10-2011, 06:25 PM

7.62x51 · 12-13-2011, 08:42 AM

Only a word: AWESOME

This heli has the highest roll rate i ever flown. It's damn fast, reactive, snap on collective inputs.
At 3270 rpm is the best flight i had with a 450 size heli.

poring · 12-13-2011, 02:30 PM

Sounds like you like it. : )

Got any video by any chance?

7.62x51 · 12-14-2011, 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poring

Sounds like you like it. : )

Got any video by any chance?

Not yet.
Usually i fly alone; as soon as possible will do one....

7.62x51 · 12-14-2011, 06:25 AM

However a video can say a lot about skills of the pilot, not necessarily on the model flight quality.

Give a Belt CP in the hands of Tareq and see what comes on....

ScotY · 12-27-2011, 12:38 AM

Did you have to trim the corners of the mounting tabs on the MKS servos?

7.62x51 · 12-27-2011, 07:49 AM

Yes i did a minor adjustment on elevator servo. MKS D92 has the central screw hole outer than others, so i trimmed a little the flange to fit the servo perfectly.

ScotY · 12-29-2011, 03:03 PM

Page 17 of the manual found here:
http://model.shinlog.jp/hirobo_fan/f...02-0304904.pdf
says to trim the corners of the servos that are 32mm or greater. I suspect the corners of the servos may interfere with the lower jesus bolt. Anyone install DS95 servos in an Embla yet and did you have to trim the servo mounting tabs?

ScotY · 12-29-2011, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7.62x51

Yes i did a minor adjustment on elevator servo. MKS D92 has the central screw hole outer than others, so i trimmed a little the flange to fit the servo perfectly.

I can't quite picture what you're saying. Can you post a pic?
Thanks!

7.62x51 · 12-29-2011, 03:52 PM

MKS DS95 have 4 mounting screws, so 4 holes in a metal flange; DS92 have 2 holes in a plastic flange. The plastic flange has, therefore, a kind of "hump". Flanges fit perfectly, only the elevator servo don't fit in place until the hump has removed...
This operation doesn't affect the integrity of the flange, only the "outer ring" of the screw housing needed to be trimmed.

Front servos fits without trimming anything. I set them in highest position possible, due cable routing..

7.62x51 · 05-04-2012, 12:03 AM

YouTube (Short URL)

KevinB · 05-07-2012, 12:14 AM

One building tip........ I've been trying to track down a vibration in one of my Emblas for over a month. It would be fine in normal (2500 headspeed) but as soon as I went to idle up (3200), my vbar log would fill with Extreme vibration warnings and it would start to feel jittery in the air.

What it ended up being was preloading the main shaft bearings. Be sure to fully tighen the bottom collar BEFORE setting and tightening the top one. The cutout in the mainshaft is slightly bevelled on the bottom side and if the lower collar isn't fully tightened before setting and tightening the top collar, the setscrew of the bottom collar rides down the bevel and forces the collar up the shaft slightly. This preloads the bearings axially and at higher rpms.....they apparently don't like that

Turning the mainshaft by hand, it felt perfectly smooth even when preloaded. The problem only showed up at higher rpms.

As soon as I reset the collars as to put no preload on the mainshaft bearings, all the vibe warnings disappeared from the vbar log.

KevinB

7.62x51 · 01-12-2013, 05:38 PM

http://youtu.be/jLSIFe-at58

Mike2112 · 01-22-2013, 09:17 PM

^^ WOW! That was an epic flight!

7.62x51 · 01-23-2013, 08:00 AM

Thank you Mike.

It was the first day using my new DXS9 II.
It's a little different from my previous DX7SE, sticks have more throw; need some time to getting used.

flyinggoose · 03-06-2013, 07:02 PM

Are parts easy to find in the usa, and where at? Thanks

sl4ppy · 03-06-2013, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyinggoose

Are parts easy to find in the usa, and where at? Thanks

Not really. :/ I've had an Embla since they came out, and am REALLY thinking of parting with it just because parts are not super available.

MRC is really the best choice, unfortunately..

http://www.modelrec.com/rc-products/...pare-parts.asp

Site is terribly organized and you have to know the part numbers of what you need to find anything.

12-09-2011, 12:29 PM	#22
7.62x51 Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Mongardino d'Asti; Italy	Ciao Bob many thanks. I read a lot of times Rudi's blog. Thanks to him i chose to buy Hirobo's 450... __________________ Henseleit TDR; Alees Rush 750; Synergy E7; Miniature Aircraft Whiplash; Compass 7HV; Hirobo EMBLA. Fabio To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

12-10-2011, 06:25 PM	#24
7.62x51 Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Mongardino d'Asti; Italy	__________________ Henseleit TDR; Alees Rush 750; Synergy E7; Miniature Aircraft Whiplash; Compass 7HV; Hirobo EMBLA. Fabio To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

12-13-2011, 08:42 AM	#25
7.62x51 Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Mongardino d'Asti; Italy	Only a word: AWESOME This heli has the highest roll rate i ever flown. It's damn fast, reactive, snap on collective inputs. At 3270 rpm is the best flight i had with a 450 size heli. __________________ Henseleit TDR; Alees Rush 750; Synergy E7; Miniature Aircraft Whiplash; Compass 7HV; Hirobo EMBLA. Fabio To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

12-14-2011, 06:25 AM	#28
7.62x51 Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Mongardino d'Asti; Italy	However a video can say a lot about skills of the pilot, not necessarily on the model flight quality. Give a Belt CP in the hands of Tareq and see what comes on.... __________________ Henseleit TDR; Alees Rush 750; Synergy E7; Miniature Aircraft Whiplash; Compass 7HV; Hirobo EMBLA. Fabio To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

12-27-2011, 07:49 AM	#30
7.62x51 Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Mongardino d'Asti; Italy	Yes i did a minor adjustment on elevator servo. MKS D92 has the central screw hole outer than others, so i trimmed a little the flange to fit the servo perfectly. __________________ Henseleit TDR; Alees Rush 750; Synergy E7; Miniature Aircraft Whiplash; Compass 7HV; Hirobo EMBLA. Fabio To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

12-09-2011, 10:37 AM	#21
gratefulfrog Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Belgium	Hi Hirobo Freaks! The posts are great! Thanks for sharing! For those who read German, or can use Google Translate, Rüdiger Feil has posted a series of descriptions at: http://www.hirobo-online.de/communit...ger/index.html Ciao, Bob

12-10-2011, 10:58 AM	#23
gratefulfrog Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Belgium	Hi Fabio! Indeed, Rudi Feil is a really nice guy. Thanks to him I got a 2.4GHz FAAST Quark SG, and an elecric conversion SA315B Lama - I already had a Lepton! I really believe that Hirobo makes top quality helis and the service that Rudi offers is also top quality! I'm sure he would be happy to help if you ever need any advice, just write to him! I do all the time! Ciao, Bob

12-13-2011, 02:30 PM	#26
poring Registered Users Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Belgium	Sounds like you like it. : ) Got any video by any chance?

12-27-2011, 12:38 AM	#29
ScotY Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: USA	Did you have to trim the corners of the mounting tabs on the MKS servos?

12-29-2011, 03:03 PM	#31
ScotY Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: USA	Page 17 of the manual found here: http://model.shinlog.jp/hirobo_fan/f...02-0304904.pdf says to trim the corners of the servos that are 32mm or greater. I suspect the corners of the servos may interfere with the lower jesus bolt. Anyone install DS95 servos in an Embla yet and did you have to trim the servo mounting tabs?

12-29-2011, 03:52 PM	#33
7.62x51 Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Mongardino d'Asti; Italy	MKS DS95 have 4 mounting screws, so 4 holes in a metal flange; DS92 have 2 holes in a plastic flange. The plastic flange has, therefore, a kind of "hump". Flanges fit perfectly, only the elevator servo don't fit in place until the hump has removed... This operation doesn't affect the integrity of the flange, only the "outer ring" of the screw housing needed to be trimmed. Front servos fits without trimming anything. I set them in highest position possible, due cable routing.. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Henseleit TDR; Alees Rush 750; Synergy E7; Miniature Aircraft Whiplash; Compass 7HV; Hirobo EMBLA. Fabio To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

05-07-2012, 12:14 AM	#35
KevinB Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Saskatoon, SK.	One building tip........ I've been trying to track down a vibration in one of my Emblas for over a month. It would be fine in normal (2500 headspeed) but as soon as I went to idle up (3200), my vbar log would fill with Extreme vibration warnings and it would start to feel jittery in the air. What it ended up being was preloading the main shaft bearings. Be sure to fully tighen the bottom collar BEFORE setting and tightening the top one. The cutout in the mainshaft is slightly bevelled on the bottom side and if the lower collar isn't fully tightened before setting and tightening the top collar, the setscrew of the bottom collar rides down the bevel and forces the collar up the shaft slightly. This preloads the bearings axially and at higher rpms.....they apparently don't like that Turning the mainshaft by hand, it felt perfectly smooth even when preloaded. The problem only showed up at higher rpms. As soon as I reset the collars as to put no preload on the mainshaft bearings, all the vibe warnings disappeared from the vbar log. KevinB Attached Thumbnails

01-12-2013, 05:38 PM	#36
7.62x51 Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Mongardino d'Asti; Italy	http://youtu.be/jLSIFe-at58 __________________ Henseleit TDR; Alees Rush 750; Synergy E7; Miniature Aircraft Whiplash; Compass 7HV; Hirobo EMBLA. Fabio To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

01-22-2013, 09:17 PM	#37
Mike2112 Registered Users Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Long Island, New York	^^ WOW! That was an epic flight! __________________ Hirobo Evo .50/Futaba 9C/OS 50 Hyper & Hatori/Radix/GV1/GY401&9254/9252s/Arizona Heli Canopy Trex 500 FBL/Futaba 8FGS/CGY750/CC ICE 75 & Scorp 1400 16T/Radix/9650s/9256 Trex 450 Pro/Futaba 8FGS/450M 14T/TP Blades/ 3156s/ Futaba GY520&9257

01-23-2013, 08:00 AM	#38
7.62x51 Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Mongardino d'Asti; Italy	Thank you Mike. It was the first day using my new DXS9 II. It's a little different from my previous DX7SE, sticks have more throw; need some time to getting used. __________________ Henseleit TDR; Alees Rush 750; Synergy E7; Miniature Aircraft Whiplash; Compass 7HV; Hirobo EMBLA. Fabio To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

03-06-2013, 07:02 PM	#39
flyinggoose Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Milford, Oh	EMBLA? Are parts easy to find in the usa, and where at? Thanks __________________ Beam e4 fbl v2 ar7200bx, mks ds92a+, ds520 tail, mini g2 bec, cc50 ice lite,DX7, icharger 206b, and phoenix v4. / Previous-Blade nano,450 3d, mcp x v1 and v2, msr and mcx.

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