Sawtooth like move?

banditpowdercoat · 09-29-2011, 10:25 PM

OK, I dunno what it's called, but seen it in a couple vids. Where the heli travels backwards, but you kinda pitch up and fwd just a tad, then travel backwards while the heli is tilted fwd. Kinda like MJ's Moonwalk I guess. Looks like the heli shoult be going fwd, but it goes backwars, but follows a up/down sawtooth pattern.

Ya that, how the heck do I do it??

banditpowdercoat · 09-30-2011, 10:08 PM

No one?

One video I know it's in is Finless's stick cam vid of Tim Jones

http://video.helifreak.com/?subpath=...e=timstick.wmv

It's at 2:02 where he does it

its too fast fro me to really see the stick movements in cordination

Finless · 10-01-2011, 10:21 AM

The move is called the Curley Shuffle.

YouTube

banditpowdercoat · 10-01-2011, 11:30 AM

K, I wana learn it heeee.
I'm assuming it's gona take a little bit of collective management to accomplish.

Rªzª · 10-01-2011, 11:45 AM

not sure that move has a name. i asked that at my field years ago and the guys just called them whoopdie-doos

Finless · 10-01-2011, 12:38 PM

The first time I saw the move was at the San Diego Funfly 2008 I believe. I think I videoed it and when I asked Tim Jones what the move was he said "some guys call it the Curly Shuffle". So that kind of stuck out here anyway.

Bob

Rªzª · 10-01-2011, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banditpowdercoat

No one?

One video I know it's in is Finless's stick cam vid of Tim Jones

http://video.helifreak.com/?subpath=...e=timstick.wmv

It's at 2:02 where he does it

its too fast fro me to really see the stick movements in cordination

when i click on this link i get an odd page that says videos are for logged in members. is that the wrong way to link a hf video?

banditpowdercoat · 10-01-2011, 01:43 PM

I click the link and get the DL/Stream page. So I dunno what is happening on your end

Rªzª · 10-01-2011, 07:33 PM

must be something wrong with firefox then. i cant even "log out" here

DominicD · 10-01-2011, 07:35 PM

I call them bunny hops. They aren't tricky to do, but you have to do them low and aggressive or its pointless.

banditpowdercoat · 10-01-2011, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rªzª

must be something wrong with firefox then. i cant even "log out" here

I run FF here and works fine. have you updated your FF lately?

Rªzª · 10-01-2011, 11:52 PM

yeah it's 7.0.1 im about to reboot. i'm betting that will fix me

Stevin · 10-17-2011, 05:35 AM

basically looks like a variation of a nose toc down low

Down Low · 10-17-2011, 10:02 AM

I call them Curley Shuffles too. They are neat to watch and fun to do. You can do them forwards, backwards, and sideways too, and than all that inverted as well.

Sorry I can't think how to explain it at the moment, I remember it bring tricky at first but once you get it all the orientations become easy. Or at least that was my experience.

th0rg0d · 12-15-2012, 01:37 PM

I'm going to resurrect this thread. I too want to know how to do these, and there was no explanation given.

When I watch others do them, I think I understand what the heli is doing, but my thumbs fail to execute the proper timing or stick inputs. Can someone give a quick rundown of the cyclic/collective timing needed?

Thanks in advance!

neverland · 12-16-2012, 02:02 AM

by a curly shuffle do you mean a tail down tic toc that 'walks along', cos thats how i do them on the sim. if so they are not difficult once you can do tic tocs well.

i'll try to describe what i think is happening. with a normal tic toc, the important thing is the motion is EQUAL in both halves, whether its a fast upright tic toc, or more of a slow rainbow type. so you always come back to your starting position.

what makes the curly shuffle motion different is that it is not equal in both directions. the first part is much the same as normal - and is the moving along the ground section. the point which the tail rotor sits will probably have moved on a bit (as in almost all tic tocs or rainbows unless your very careful) - which is important here as its what you use to move along the ground. but in the second part you should apply much less collective, and the elevator much more sharply - so the tail rotor stays put as the heli arcs back quickly again to the start position (which has moved). if you repeat these motions in turn, you will move forward (or backwards - depending on which section you do them) in a ratcheting motion. hope that makes sense.

trouble is, ive seen people do these in a slightly different way, so it might not be the definitive 'curly shuffle'. but its a good maneuver to learn anyway.

09-29-2011, 10:25 PM	#1
banditpowdercoat Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 100 Mile House BC Canada	Sawtooth like move? OK, I dunno what it's called, but seen it in a couple vids. Where the heli travels backwards, but you kinda pitch up and fwd just a tad, then travel backwards while the heli is tilted fwd. Kinda like MJ's Moonwalk I guess. Looks like the heli shoult be going fwd, but it goes backwars, but follows a up/down sawtooth pattern. Ya that, how the heck do I do it?? __________________ Dan Pesonen FBL, Don't think about it, DO IT. mCX2, nCPX, mCP X, Blade 400, MSH PRÔTOS "Tri-Flow" I put that S*** on everything!"

09-30-2011, 10:08 PM	#2
banditpowdercoat Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 100 Mile House BC Canada	No one? One video I know it's in is Finless's stick cam vid of Tim Jones http://video.helifreak.com/?subpath=...e=timstick.wmv It's at 2:02 where he does it its too fast fro me to really see the stick movements in cordination __________________ Dan Pesonen FBL, Don't think about it, DO IT. mCX2, nCPX, mCP X, Blade 400, MSH PRÔTOS "Tri-Flow" I put that S*** on everything!"

10-01-2011, 11:30 AM	#4
banditpowdercoat Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 100 Mile House BC Canada	K, I wana learn it heeee. I'm assuming it's gona take a little bit of collective management to accomplish. __________________ Dan Pesonen FBL, Don't think about it, DO IT. mCX2, nCPX, mCP X, Blade 400, MSH PRÔTOS "Tri-Flow" I put that S*** on everything!"

10-01-2011, 12:38 PM	#6
Finless Team Taco VP My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Stanton, Ca. USA	The first time I saw the move was at the San Diego Funfly 2008 I believe. I think I videoed it and when I asked Tim Jones what the move was he said "some guys call it the Curly Shuffle". So that kind of stuck out here anyway. Bob __________________ "Don't Taco My Pack Dude!" To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.*

10-01-2011, 01:43 PM	#8
banditpowdercoat Registered Users Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 100 Mile House BC Canada	I click the link and get the DL/Stream page. So I dunno what is happening on your end __________________ Dan Pesonen FBL, Don't think about it, DO IT. mCX2, nCPX, mCP X, Blade 400, MSH PRÔTOS "Tri-Flow" I put that S*** on everything!"

10-01-2011, 11:45 AM	#5
Rªzª Join Date: May 2008 Location: Orlando	not sure that move has a name. i asked that at my field years ago and the guys just called them whoopdie-doos

10-01-2011, 07:33 PM	#9
Rªzª Join Date: May 2008 Location: Orlando	must be something wrong with firefox then. i cant even "log out" here

10-01-2011, 07:35 PM	#10
DominicD The Capi - HF Support My HF Map location Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Toronto	I call them bunny hops. They aren't tricky to do, but you have to do them low and aggressive or its pointless. __________________ SAB Heli Canada / RotorQuest/Compass Team KBDD Spreading capibara awareness since 2006 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

10-01-2011, 11:52 PM	#12
Rªzª Join Date: May 2008 Location: Orlando	yeah it's 7.0.1 im about to reboot. i'm betting that will fix me

10-17-2011, 05:35 AM	#13
Stevin Registered Users Join Date: May 2011 Location: bronx , ny	basically looks like a variation of a nose toc down low __________________ Avant E-Aurora FBL Vbar 5.3pro / Trex 450 pro vbar 5.3pro/ Velocity50 Vbar 5.3pro / Trex 600efl PRO Flybarless vbar/CC HV80 / Outrage 550 VBAR5.2Pro/ICE100 Heliflightcenter Team Pilot

10-17-2011, 10:02 AM	#14
Down Low Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Canada	I call them Curley Shuffles too. They are neat to watch and fun to do. You can do them forwards, backwards, and sideways too, and than all that inverted as well. Sorry I can't think how to explain it at the moment, I remember it bring tricky at first but once you get it all the orientations become easy. Or at least that was my experience. __________________ Airtronics SD10G, SK540 Synergy N5c, OS .50 Hyper MAAC #85462

12-15-2012, 01:37 PM	#15
th0rg0d Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Everett, Wa (Seattle)	I'm going to resurrect this thread. I too want to know how to do these, and there was no explanation given. When I watch others do them, I think I understand what the heli is doing, but my thumbs fail to execute the proper timing or stick inputs. Can someone give a quick rundown of the cyclic/collective timing needed? Thanks in advance! __________________ Mini Prôtos AR7200BX Prôtos stretch AR7200BX Savöx 1250/1290MG SAB 470mm ALeeS Rush 750 YGE 120HV/4035-530 AR7200BX Savöx 1258/1290MG Rail 696/116 mCPx stretch uHeli head DX18 AMA# 448427

12-16-2012, 02:02 AM	#16
neverland Registered Users Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: uk, warwickshire	by a curly shuffle do you mean a tail down tic toc that 'walks along', cos thats how i do them on the sim. if so they are not difficult once you can do tic tocs well. i'll try to describe what i think is happening. with a normal tic toc, the important thing is the motion is EQUAL in both halves, whether its a fast upright tic toc, or more of a slow rainbow type. so you always come back to your starting position. what makes the curly shuffle motion different is that it is not equal in both directions. the first part is much the same as normal - and is the moving along the ground section. the point which the tail rotor sits will probably have moved on a bit (as in almost all tic tocs or rainbows unless your very careful) - which is important here as its what you use to move along the ground. but in the second part you should apply much less collective, and the elevator much more sharply - so the tail rotor stays put as the heli arcs back quickly again to the start position (which has moved). if you repeat these motions in turn, you will move forward (or backwards - depending on which section you do them) in a ratcheting motion. hope that makes sense. trouble is, ive seen people do these in a slightly different way, so it might not be the definitive 'curly shuffle'. but its a good maneuver to learn anyway.

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