New 700E Tail - V2 - 2 Radial Bearings

[Roger Palacio]

Originally Posted by smaze17

nice....thanks

got a link?

Here buddy,

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Align-T-Rex-...item3f0dc31368

[K2Freak]

Thanks, Roger!

[AAKEE]

Originally Posted by haq0901

This is Incorrect! NEW TAIL HOLDER has 3 bearing on each grip. When they refer to 2 bearing on each grip it does not include the 1 that closest to the hub which is considered being a 3rd bearing making a total of six on the newest align part. Order of bearings on new part will be a bearing - thrust bearing - bearing - bolt

I dont understand you. What is incorrect?

The HN6103A has the same amount of bearings, same size and in same positions as my 700E v2 tail has. From tail rotor shaft and out, first two radial bearings, then one thrust bearing.

http://www.align.com.tw/shop/product...oducts_id=4022

Are we still saying that I have another tail than the 'v2 HN6103A' ? It looks very like, with same no of bearings, size and placements...

Printscreen from 700Ev2 manual @ align.

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[Dino Spadaccini]

the tail hubs and bearings system where being used this pasted weekend at the Align Fun Fly.

[haq0901]

I guess I'm wrong because on my v2 manual I have the old style 1 bearing 1 thrust bearing setup.... Yet your picture shows clearly the 2 bearing setup....

How many versions of the v2 kit are out?

[J-S-Q]

It's possible to add a second radial bearing to the stock tail grips. You just need to use a round headed bolt otherwise the stock square headed bolt will rub on the tail blades. I've done it on my 700n and it reduces the slop quite significantly.

[Chris_M]

Originally Posted by J-S-Q

It's possible to add a second radial bearing to the stock tail grips. You just need to use a round headed bolt otherwise the stock square headed bolt will rub on the tail blades. I've done it on my 700n and it reduces the slop quite significantly.

I believe KDE has an upgrade for the tail that does exactly that.

[J-S-Q]

Originally Posted by cmar143

I believe KDE has an upgrade for the tail that does exactly that.

Yes they do although you can also just buy the bearings and bolts yourself (and possibly an additional washer, I can't quite remember) which is cheaper. The KDE upgrade does include some additional stuff though, like CNC tail pitch links which justify the extra cost.

[Mystic3D]

The KDE Upgrade nor adding the bearing and bolts yourself is the same thing as the new tail design. Bearing count may be the same but that was never the core issue.

The bolts that secure the tail grips were what was breaking, even the 12.9 Bolts some people put on failed. In the case of the old design, and KDE design, the bolt is what took the side load for the outer bearing as well as the thrust bearing.

In the new design, it is more like the Quick UK Tail in that the Tail Hub extends up through the bearings and the tail hub which is larger and more robust takes the side loads. Much better design.

[TT]

Originally Posted by In_to_the_Mystic_2003

In the new design, it is more like the Quick UK Tail in that the Tail Hub extends up through the bearings and the tail hub which is larger and more robust takes the side loads. Much better design.

Agreed! I'm using KDE upgrade in the plasic grips (nice...no slop) but might switch to these when a replacement hub becomes available. As you said, much better design.

[J-S-Q]

Originally Posted by In_to_the_Mystic_2003

The KDE Upgrade nor adding the bearing and bolts yourself is the same thing as the new tail design. Bearing count may be the same but that was never the core issue.

The bolts that secure the tail grips were what was breaking, even the 12.9 Bolts some people put on failed. In the case of the old design, and KDE design, the bolt is what took the side load for the outer bearing as well as the trust bearing.

In the new design, it is more like the Quick UK Tail in that the Tail Hub extends up through the bearings and the tail hub which is larger and more robust takes the side loads. Much better design.

Yes, I see what you mean. Interesting info.

[Mystic3D]

I want the new tail so I can take off the 600N Plastic Tail, which does not fail but does develop slop.

Just do not want to order from Helipross, which along with Top-RC Force seems to be the only ones who "say" they have in stock

[K2Freak]

I ordered one from the eBay link above. Good price as well.

[Mystic3D]

Originally Posted by K2Freak

I ordered one from the eBay link above. Good price as well.

+1 - Ordered. At least with Ebay I have recourse..

[bj660raptor]

Thanks for the linkage,got one ? Where is sherie store? China or something?

[MajorPayne]

Taiwan.

[StatiC]

I just ordered with expedited shipping (EMS) so hopefully I will get one within 3 to 5 days. I was hoping to order one from the US but who knows when the US stores will get their shipment.

I just don't trust the existing tail as is. I just bought the KDE V2 tail upgrade kit for the second bearing and metal arms that I just installed yesterday but there are a few things that concern me. The head on the KDE bolt is smaller. The extra weight of the extra bearing was not originally part of the hub design so I wonder how much more force is on the tail blades with the KDE tail V2 upgrade kit. I have still read of reports of the bolt snapping as mentioned by someone else in this thread. $41 is worth the money to get this new tail to me for peace of mind. I can see that the bolt is not supporting the radial loads with the new design because the end radial bearing is on the hub itself instead of the bolt like the KDE V2 upgrade kit.

Well... actually I will probably just be a guinea pig for the new design. Doh! <scrambling to cancel my order> . Seriously though I am looking forward to this new tail for both looks and safety.

[Mystic3D]

+1 Prob the best $$ we can spend on an upgrade.
EMS is quick, I did also


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[504Rone]

Originally Posted by AAKEE

I dont understand you. What is incorrect?

The HN6103A has the same amount of bearings, same size and in same positions as my 700E v2 tail has. From tail rotor shaft and out, first two radial bearings, then one thrust bearing.

http://www.align.com.tw/shop/product...oducts_id=4022

Are we still saying that I have another tail than the 'v2 HN6103A' ? It looks very like, with same no of bearings, size and placements...

Printscreen from 700Ev2 manual @ align.

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This is what came with my 600e pro.

[dvillijs]

Originally Posted by In_to_the_Mystic_2003

Just do not want to order from Helipross

Why not in_to_the_mystic? I want a lot of new upgrades and they have most of the new designs. I also check on net and lotsa guys indicated they got good and bad service so ima bit cautious.

The guy from ebay is also in taiwan and guess the only country he does not ship to.... Africa, lucky me , hench me asking for helipross

Has anyone bought from the Align online shop?