Flair moves...for lack of a better word

[johnpotter82]

Hello eveyone. I have been enjoying watching the videos and tips in this forum. And I have been putting a lot of effort into developing my skill set. eg learning piro moves ,loops, rolls, hurricanes, funnels all orientations all sorts of that stuff. I still have a way to go. But I was wondering if someone could do a video of those little Flair type moves you see the pro's do. I am not talking about like rolling circles. Just like some tips on how to do those like little half flip half piro type moves you always see pro's doing. That what I am just not getting. I am just not learning those type moves at all. I will go up real high and try just putzing around. But it just looks nothing like what they do. The pro's do these little moves FAST and with a purpose. What inputs should i be experimenting with?

[pitchp]

morphing transitions. Bert K's favourite moves

[MXRACERX43]

What part of PA you from?

[johnpotter82]

Stroudsburg PA. I will look into morphing transitions. But I know what they are. I mean like those just random freestyle moves. I just got phoenix today i was using HELI-X. The physics engine in phoenix is much more styled after modern "crack" flying and its helping alot already.

[MXRACERX43]

You should come fly with us sometime. 80 to 81 south probably a 45 min drive for ya. I fly with a guy from that area sometimes. Gonna head out his way and fly soon.

Check out the link to our annual heli only funfly I cordinate. Some pics of our field in there.
http://rc.runryder.com/helicopter/t5...ight=tuscarora

[pitchp]

a picture tells a thousand words, a video tells a story. must be somewhere on you tube. Is it a tareq move?

[Rªzª]

you should start working on snapping your half flips. when done right a half flip can be snapped into position in the blink of an eye. you need a fast tail and quick inputs, but snaps look really cool when done well. if you can do half flips well, then work on trying to do them as fast as possible.

one move you can work on is fly nose forward then do a quick quarter piro (start at 12:00 on the stick and ends at about 3 with left rudder). it will flip you around to inverted with the tail down. moves like that i think is what you have in mind.

[pitchp]

stall turns, or half piro flips I'm outta ideas.

[jlharv]

One thing I have seen the pros do that is not that hard but looks really cool, is when they are transitioning to rainbows (left and right on the flight line), or even into backwards flight, is a tail stand. The heli is hovering in front of you at eye level (or lower). Turn it 90 deg. so it is side in, then give a little collective pop, do a quarter back flip, at that point it is standing straight up on it's tail and your looking at it from the side. It looks cool as it stands there for a second. Then you nail full negative and it shoots off to the side. From there you can pull the elevator and go into an inverted hurricane, or push the nose down and start some rainbows.

[johnpotter82]

Thats exactly the kind of stuff im talking about jlharv. and ive been doing what you said too RaZa. I have also been putting lots of piro pitch pumps in my moves to spice things up alittle.