Spin 4400kv?

[Soccerjay]

I know this motor is rated as a 450 but would this work feasibly with a yep 45 and kst 113s as cyclic, ds76t and a bunch of "bling" i have two 300x's I'm thinking making one a powerhouse and the other mostly stock but with a p2632 and ae 45 and obviously non-woody blades....i have almost a complete microheli/lynx upgrade set on the way with a turnigy 450 so i can choose between:

Spin 4400
Turnigy 450 (not sure which yet)
P2632

[Livan75]

Originally Posted by Soccerjay

I know this motor is rated as a 450 but would this work feasibly with a yep 45 and kst 113s as cyclic, ds76t and a bunch of "bling" i have two 300x's I'm thinking making one a powerhouse and the other mostly stock but with a p2632 and ae 45 and obviously non-woody blades....i have almost a complete microheli/lynx upgrade set on the way with a turnigy 450 so i can choose between:

Spin 4400
Turnigy 450 (not sure which yet)
P2632

I did look at the Spin motor but decided not to give it a go, just stick with my Typhoon 450H 2215-3550, YEP40 is enough for that one (and similar scorp, hyp or Lynx)...

I'd say the only reason to run that beast is if you intend to run headspeeds above 4000 (gov) without going to 4S (check out the 4S thread for more about that). I guess flight time on a 3S with governed head speed over 4000rpm will be anything but great...

https://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=650301

[Soccerjay]

Originally Posted by Livan75

I did look at the Spin motor but decided not to give it a go, just stick with my Typhoon 450H 2215-3550, YEP40 is enough for that one (and similar scorp, hyp or Lynx)...

I'd say the only reason to run that beast is if you intend to run headspeeds above 4000 (gov) without going to 4S (check out the 4S thread for more about that). I guess flight time on a 3S with governed head speed over 4000rpm will be anything but great...

https://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=650301

I'm not goin crazy on hs but around 3600-3800 for decent flight time, and i have a ton of batts so not going 4s. I already have the yep 45 I'll run governed

[Nelsonisms]

I guess it all depends on what you consider "decent" flight time.

This log is from a fairly basic flight governed to 3600 RPM with 1300mAh 3S packs on the Hyperion 2213-3585kv motor which certainly draws less current than this Spin 4400kv motor. The flight lasted 3 minutes and pulled the voltage down to 3.69V/cell resting. So you can basically assume that flights are going to be less than 3 minutes unless you use 1500mAh packs that might buy you a little more time but not much.

[Livan75]

Originally Posted by Soccerjay

I'm not goin crazy on hs but around 3600-3800 for decent flight time, and i have a ton of batts so not going 4s. I already have the yep 45 I'll run governed

As I said, I was entertaining the thought myself but stuck with the Typhoon because I figured flight time would suck with the Spin, I figured 2-2.30 mins... But it would be cool, "because I can" is a valid reason

Nelsonisms, do you have any logs for 2215-3550 on 3S? Or only 4S? Would be nice to see the figures beside the Hyperion...

[Soccerjay]

For me flight time is kinda important but not really a deciding factor, since i like long flights but not if its a weak one.

I could use one as the long 4ish + min flights on a p2632 10t with HS around 3000

And the other at around 3600 for 3 mins

I honestly wouldn't mind a 2:30 flight time for 4000hs but i wont need it so why even bother, I'll just use what i got and have fun, I'm keeping it sort of light.....

I want your guys' opinion on worthwhile upgrades for weight....i have a complete upgrade set on the way and what should i use and let sit?

I'm thinking at least using:

Main grips w/ links
Tail case
Tail grips

Maybe:
Swash
Tail pitch lever
Tail slider

Probably not:
Main frame
Cf skids

But I'm fully willing to change if its worth using them

Only reason i dont want too much "bling" on tail is i have the ds76t still and dont want to weigh it down or it may struggle

Not sure if I'll stick with ds76 or kst113

[Livan75]

I would use the frame, don't say that you have a stiffener for the stock frame, would be insane to run 4000rpm without one...

[Soccerjay]

Originally Posted by Livan75

I would use the frame, don't say that you have a stiffener for the stock frame, would be insane to run 4000rpm without one...

I have the stiffener....i was considering the frame and I'll have to rebuild it all and set it up all over again, but i think it will be worth it

[Nelsonisms]

Originally Posted by Livan75

As I said, I was entertaining the thought myself but stuck with the Typhoon because I figured flight time would suck with the Spin, I figured 2-2.30 mins... But it would be cool, "because I can" is a valid reason

Nelsonisms, do you have any logs for 2215-3550 on 3S? Or only 4S? Would be nice to see the figures beside the Hyperion...

I never even considered running the Typhoon on 3S. I can do it the next time I'm out just for grins. I'll post it in my 4S thread since that's where I've collected all the other logs.

[Nelsonisms]

After working on those goofy plastic frames the Lynx CF frame is definitely an improvement, but I wouldn't recommend it if you think you'll be crashing often just because it's way more expensive to repair. But yeah, the thought of running 4000 RPM on the stock frame doesn't leave me with the warm fuzzies either.

[Soccerjay]

Originally Posted by Nelsonisms

After working on those goofy plastic frames the Lynx CF frame is definitely an improvement, but I wouldn't recommend it if you think you'll be crashing often.

Obviously I'm not planning on it, i got everything in a trade so it is microheli (id rather have lynx) but oh well, it should do....i dont typically crash often, i did once on my new 300x cause i was pushing the limits with small space, tic tocs a foot off the ground on my last pack of the day, on the day i got it

Was way too fun in a big space i dont think I'll crash maybe only when its tight and i push my limits, since i have a ton of parts I'm not too worried about crashing

[Livan75]

Originally Posted by Soccerjay

it is microheli (id rather have lynx) but oh well, it should do....

I use the MH frame, its great... I did a pros and cons with the Lynx frame and since I only use Protos-style canopies it was a no brainer, since they wont fit on the Lynx frame without mods... And I wont be running the stock style or start drilling in my canopies to "make them fit"

Its durable enough, small low altitude mess-ups wont leave a scratch on it... mine have a few hard hits under its belt and the worst damage is a chip of carbon of the battery tray...

...think its lighter than the lynx frame also, so for my money, MH is the better fame! But for anything else, I prefer Lynx parts...

[Soccerjay]

Originally Posted by Livan75

I use the MH frame, its great... I did a pros and cons with the Lynx frame and since I only use Protos-style canopies it was a no brainer, since they wont fit on the Lynx frame without mods... And I wont be running the stock style or start drilling in my canopies to "make them fit"

Its durable enough, small low altitude mess-ups wont leave a scratch on it... mine have a few hard hits under its belt and the worst damage is a chip of carbon of the battery tray...

...think its lighter than the lynx frame also, so for my money, MH is the better fame! But for anything else, I prefer Lynx parts...

Oh i didn't know that, i knew lynx was better at parts but wasn't informed on the frame...i think I'll use it in that case

[Soccerjay]

Originally Posted by Livan75

I did look at the Spin motor but decided not to give it a go, just stick with my Typhoon 450H 2215-3550, YEP40 is enough for that one (and similar scorp, hyp or Lynx)...

I'd say the only reason to run that beast is if you intend to run headspeeds above 4000 (gov) without going to 4S (check out the 4S thread for more about that). I guess flight time on a 3S with governed head speed over 4000rpm will be anything but great...

https://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=650301

Ok so I have the 2215-3550 kv currently with a 12t pinion which may be too small, so I need a recommended tooth count, I'm gonna use a yep 45a esc and should I use Kst 113 or stick with ds76?

Also I got the motor with little air intake at top removed which makes it a bit lighter, anyone run it like that?

[Livan75]

Originally Posted by Soccerjay

Ok so I have the 2215-3550 kv currently with a 12t pinion which may be too small, so I need a recommended tooth count, I'm gonna use a yep 45a esc and should I use Kst 113 or stick with ds76?

Also I got the motor with little air intake at top removed which makes it a bit lighter, anyone run it like that?

14T if you aim for 3500-3700, it just above ambient after a 3D flight with fans so I guess it will work without them...

[Soccerjay]

Okay awesome, anyone have a recommendation for servos? Kst vs stock...

[Nelsonisms]

Originally Posted by Soccerjay

Okay awesome, anyone have a recommendation for servos? Kst vs stock...

Given that choice it's pretty easy....KST. They're heavier than the stockers, but I don't notice it with these more powerful motors and especially not with the stretch kit. The added reliability and durability are worth it to me. It is nice if you have a BEC that can run up at 7V to take full advantage of them, especially if you use it as a tail servo.