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flyinfool · 10-27-2005, 08:49 AM

Ok I learned something new, AGAIN.
With the temps dropping as fast as the sun these days, the chemical lights on the skids do not work well. Colder temps slow the chemical process that creates the light.
With temps only down as far as low 50°'s F the chemical lights are almost not visible in the air.

If you can find the LED glow sticks from Wal-Mart, they do not seem to be affected by temps that we have seen so far. The LED light sticks only last for 10-15 flights before the switch starts to fall apart but that is still less cost than the chem lights.

PDC · 10-27-2005, 10:35 AM

Nice heli voyager-e.

If anybody finds these LED glow sticks for the skids, then please send a link. Think they might last longer on a vibration free e-heli :-).

Thanks!

Paul

flyinfool · 10-27-2005, 12:34 PM

The walmrt lightsticks are very fragile.
I'm currently researching some other brands that are claimed to be more durable.
Once I get some and evaluate them I will post a link.

mhn · 10-30-2005, 01:04 PM

PDC, check these out.

http://www.garritylites.com/site/ret...s.php?recid=87

Got a few laying around. Haven't tried them out yet on a heli.

Michel-Henri

scrogerio · 10-30-2005, 06:58 PM

I install the glow wire in front of my heli, together with my receiver and battery of receiver, the 2 driver and 2 9v battery. With about 10 minutes, my heli lost the command and crash. The radio don´t work. Anyone have one problem with this?
Has any interference in install the driver and driver´s battery together with receiver? I install in total, 4 glow wire. 1 on canopy, 1 on tail bomm, 1 in ski and 1 in suport of tail. I´m use the deans micro antenna.
Please help me. I will post tomorrow, pictures of my heli and the installation.

flyinfool · 10-31-2005, 01:51 PM

mhn
Those are the walmart lights that I refered to.
They do not last long mechanicaly but are a very good light source and even replacing these often is still cheaper than chem sticks. I am currently testing some other brads that are supposed to be more durable. If you use those lights wrap the end with tape to help hold it all together.

scrogerio
If the inverters ore there wiring are mounted very near the RX there can be interference. try to keep at least 50mm or 2 inck seperation of lighting and glow system.
I also see that you have your landing gear glow wire running through the bottom of the radio area right next to the coil of the antenna. This can be a bad thing.

scrogerio · 10-31-2005, 04:49 PM

Thank you. I will move the driver and battery 9v behind the heli, bellow the tank. I crash 2 times because interference. I replace the rx, but don´t resolve. I will test this. I don´t like to fly in night. Is the better fly to me.

PDC · 11-01-2005, 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mhn

PDC, check these out.

http://www.garritylites.com/site/ret...s.php?recid=87

Got a few laying around. Haven't tried them out yet on a heli.

Michel-Henri

Thanks Michel-Henry....can see that these are the Walmart ones, but at least I have something usable now in case we don't find something even better.

Thanks!

Paul

scrogerio · 11-01-2005, 05:39 AM

I change the install of my glow wire. I post the picture in my gallery. I will test tomorrow.

mhn · 11-20-2005, 10:16 AM

Flyinfool,
Any luck testing the other brand of lightsticks that is supposed to be more durable?

Scrogerio,
How did the new config work out for you?
Any more interferences?

Michel-Henri

scrogerio · 11-21-2005, 10:09 AM

No more. I have about 20 fly after modification and no problem and interferences. I'm very happy now.
:mrgreen: :mrgreen:

flyinfool · 11-28-2005, 08:23 PM

mhn
I've been out of town for a while.
I hope to get the new lights ordered and try them out in a couple of weeks.

flyinfool · 12-20-2005, 09:06 PM

I just recieved some of the new LED light sticks.
They are a little weird looking but seem to be well made.
I will be installing them on my heli to see how they hold up.
With winter here I am not sure when I'll get a chance to try them out for real.
It's no fun (and not safe) flying alone, and it gets real cold real fast when the sun goes down.

mhn · 12-21-2005, 02:26 AM

Jeff, thanks for the update.
It would be great if you could post a picture of these new light sticks.
Thx,

Michel-Henri

mhn · 12-28-2005, 06:04 PM

I finally had time to install the night rig.
Haven't flown it by night yet.
Actually I'm quite happy with the result (until now) and thought I might share with you guys to get some suggestions for improvement.
Thx,
MH

WillJames · 12-29-2005, 05:30 AM

Looks great mhn. Looks plenty visable.

You guys are making me miss my night rig.

flyinfool · 12-29-2005, 08:28 AM

What don't you like about it?
It looks like it will be plenty visable and doesn't look bad either.

Probably the next thing I would add would be a LED for the fuel tank, I like being able to see my fuel level.

Will
I am planning to make the first flight of the year at 01-01-06 12:00:01AM.
Wait till you see what I am planning for the night fly at Ircha. :mrgreen:

playfair · 12-29-2005, 08:41 AM

Looks good. To nit-pick, I like having the tail fin a different color then the boom so it stands out in the "peripheral vision". The glow wire can be spliced, a little tricky but not impossible.

mhn · 12-29-2005, 09:22 AM

Thank you guys for your ecouragement.

Flyinfool, I have built a small device for that: two LEDS and a small 2032 battery holder. Was planning on inserting it under the Millie tank with one led poiting upwards towards the fuel tank and the other one pointing downward to light the ground during landing. However the LEDs I have are all red and I was afraid that a red lit tank might create confusion with the red lit blades (this during fast 3D manoeuvres).
Playfair, I like the idea of splicing the glow wire. Hadn't thought of it. Thx.

Now for the bad news: I just got back from the field after a 2nd daytime flight with the Millie. Right when I was coming in for a fast landing (high alpha) at the end of the flight, the tail transmission broke and it started pirouetting at 1 meter from the ground. I had to drop it on the ASPHALT because it was too close to people. Visible damages: The brand new MS composit night blades (maiden flight)

, carbon landing gear, flybar, head mixers, Canopy, 3 servos and god nows which axles. I just got back home (disgusted) and haven't dismantled it yet.

Oh well!!!!

MHN
Sorry for the long post. Had to vent.

WillJames · 12-29-2005, 10:30 AM

Cool, can't wait to see Jeff!!

Awww man, that sucks mhn!

10-27-2005, 08:49 AM	#21 (permalink)
flyinfool Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2005	Ok I learned something new, AGAIN. With the temps dropping as fast as the sun these days, the chemical lights on the skids do not work well. Colder temps slow the chemical process that creates the light. With temps only down as far as low 50°'s F the chemical lights are almost not visible in the air. If you can find the LED glow sticks from Wal-Mart, they do not seem to be affected by temps that we have seen so far. The LED light sticks only last for 10-15 flights before the switch starts to fall apart but that is still less cost than the chem lights. __________________ Jeff Borowski

10-27-2005, 10:35 AM	#22 (permalink)
PDC Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: May 2005	Nice heli voyager-e. If anybody finds these LED glow sticks for the skids, then please send a link. Think they might last longer on a vibration free e-heli :-). Thanks! Paul __________________ Paul http://www.flighttech.co.uk/ http://www.flightpower.co.uk/ http://www.fring.com

10-27-2005, 12:34 PM	#23 (permalink)
flyinfool Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2005	The walmrt lightsticks are very fragile. I'm currently researching some other brands that are claimed to be more durable. Once I get some and evaluate them I will post a link. __________________ Jeff Borowski

10-31-2005, 01:51 PM	#26 (permalink)
flyinfool Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2005	mhn Those are the walmart lights that I refered to. They do not last long mechanicaly but are a very good light source and even replacing these often is still cheaper than chem sticks. I am currently testing some other brads that are supposed to be more durable. If you use those lights wrap the end with tape to help hold it all together. scrogerio If the inverters ore there wiring are mounted very near the RX there can be interference. try to keep at least 50mm or 2 inck seperation of lighting and glow system. I also see that you have your landing gear glow wire running through the bottom of the radio area right next to the coil of the antenna. This can be a bad thing. __________________ Jeff Borowski

11-28-2005, 08:23 PM	#32 (permalink)
flyinfool Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2005	mhn I've been out of town for a while. I hope to get the new lights ordered and try them out in a couple of weeks. __________________ Jeff Borowski

10-30-2005, 01:04 PM	#24 (permalink)
mhn Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2005	PDC, check these out. http://www.garritylites.com/site/ret...s.php?recid=87 Got a few laying around. Haven't tried them out yet on a heli. Michel-Henri

10-31-2005, 04:49 PM	#27 (permalink)
scrogerio Join Date: Jan 2005	Thank you. I will move the driver and battery 9v behind the heli, bellow the tank. I crash 2 times because interference. I replace the rx, but don´t resolve. I will test this. I don´t like to fly in night. Is the better fly to me.

11-01-2005, 05:39 AM	#29 (permalink)
scrogerio Join Date: Jan 2005	I change the install of my glow wire. I post the picture in my gallery. I will test tomorrow.

11-20-2005, 10:16 AM	#30 (permalink)
mhn Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2005	Flyinfool, Any luck testing the other brand of lightsticks that is supposed to be more durable? Scrogerio, How did the new config work out for you? Any more interferences? Michel-Henri

11-21-2005, 10:09 AM	#31 (permalink)
scrogerio Join Date: Jan 2005	No more. I have about 20 fly after modification and no problem and interferences. I'm very happy now. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

12-20-2005, 09:06 PM	#33 (permalink)
flyinfool Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2005	I just recieved some of the new LED light sticks. They are a little weird looking but seem to be well made. I will be installing them on my heli to see how they hold up. With winter here I am not sure when I'll get a chance to try them out for real. It's no fun (and not safe) flying alone, and it gets real cold real fast when the sun goes down. __________________ Jeff Borowski

12-21-2005, 02:26 AM	#34 (permalink)
mhn Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2005	Jeff, thanks for the update. It would be great if you could post a picture of these new light sticks. Thx, Michel-Henri

12-29-2005, 05:30 AM	#36 (permalink)
WillJames Registered User My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2004	Looks great mhn. Looks plenty visable. You guys are making me miss my night rig. __________________ William James Crazy wife still trying to kill me.

12-29-2005, 08:28 AM	#37 (permalink)
flyinfool Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2005	What don't you like about it? It looks like it will be plenty visable and doesn't look bad either. Probably the next thing I would add would be a LED for the fuel tank, I like being able to see my fuel level. Will I am planning to make the first flight of the year at 01-01-06 12:00:01AM. Wait till you see what I am planning for the night fly at Ircha. :mrgreen: __________________ Jeff Borowski

12-29-2005, 08:41 AM	#38 (permalink)
playfair Registered Users Join Date: May 2005	Looks good. To nit-pick, I like having the tail fin a different color then the boom so it stands out in the "peripheral vision". The glow wire can be spliced, a little tricky but not impossible. __________________ The Sky is our Canvas

12-29-2005, 09:22 AM	#39 (permalink)
mhn Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2005	Thank you guys for your ecouragement. Flyinfool, I have built a small device for that: two LEDS and a small 2032 battery holder. Was planning on inserting it under the Millie tank with one led poiting upwards towards the fuel tank and the other one pointing downward to light the ground during landing. However the LEDs I have are all red and I was afraid that a red lit tank might create confusion with the red lit blades (this during fast 3D manoeuvres). Playfair, I like the idea of splicing the glow wire. Hadn't thought of it. Thx. Now for the bad news: I just got back from the field after a 2nd daytime flight with the Millie. Right when I was coming in for a fast landing (high alpha) at the end of the flight, the tail transmission broke and it started pirouetting at 1 meter from the ground. I had to drop it on the ASPHALT because it was too close to people. Visible damages: The brand new MS composit night blades (maiden flight) , carbon landing gear, flybar, head mixers, Canopy, 3 servos and god nows which axles. I just got back home (disgusted) and haven't dismantled it yet. Oh well!!!! MHN Sorry for the long post. Had to vent.

12-29-2005, 10:30 AM	#40 (permalink)
WillJames Registered User My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2004	Cool, can't wait to see Jeff!! Awww man, that sucks mhn! __________________ William James Crazy wife still trying to kill me.

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