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LawnDartHeli · 10-31-2012, 04:21 PM

Just wanted to make a thread for current and upcoming users of this FBL unit. Mainly what I would like to see myself would be setup tips, both mechanical and software wise.
Feel free to post pics or ask questions.
I do not have mine in my hands yet, but I'm interested in its quirks..if it indeed has any.
Maybe if someone has this unit on a 450 they could post what settings/gains they use..same for 500's, 550's, etc...

Links to setup vids and firmware updates would help to.

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LawnDartHeli · 11-01-2012, 07:19 PM

Heres some setup vids:
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud506Xxwl5c&feature=player_embedded[/ame]
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGrSHtH_7jI&feature=player_embedded[/ame]
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEW6XP1KoHg&feature=player_embedded[/ame]
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwYnYOP-JFg&feature=player_embedded[/ame]
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_IlRhiyb-Q&feature=player_embedded[/ame]
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNb53FB1S90&feature=player_embedded[/ame]
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2ukj1fjmEQ&feature=player_embedded[/ame]

There are more here:http://www.skyhobbies.com.sg/pagelin...RobirdG31.html

lucidchaos · 11-02-2012, 08:12 PM

I just received my G31 unit today. It appears mine shipped before they were updated with the phase sensor.

I will update as I complete set up and review. It was packaged very well directly from HiModel in China. I cannot comment on shipping time since my shipping was affected by the hurricane.

Jonathan Ott · 11-03-2012, 02:58 PM

sub'd

ifheli · 11-03-2012, 05:02 PM

Here`s some shots of my settings on a MiniTitan that has an ALZRC 3GY which is the same as Robird G31.. I`m still playing with tail settings

LawnDartHeli · 11-03-2012, 05:26 PM

Did you use the supplied tape for mounting? I'm guessing it doesnt use a seperate vib sensor, so I wonder if stiffer tape will effect its reading?

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ifheli · 11-03-2012, 05:46 PM

I`m useing 3M tape on all of my Helis. I have one Black Widow, 3 ALZRC and two more G31 on the way.

LawnDartHeli · 11-03-2012, 06:36 PM

A guy on RCG has the Robird on a Trex 500. I had asked him what servo ball distance it calls for. He said his is around 18.5mm. That works for me because a T500 servo balls have to be run on the inside of the arms..and that in turn makes them contact the servo housing on full sweep. I moved my balls out on mine (with the ZYX) and had to turn the cyclic gain way down. He said the Robird will tell you if you have enough travel, if not you move the balls out. That works in my favor I guess. He said also make sure to have a full 12+/12- pitch range before messing with 0/center stick. Did you notice this as well?

ifheli · 11-03-2012, 07:52 PM

At this time,I don`t own a 500. All of my 3GY/ G31`s are on 450`s. On the cyclics and collective you will want to keep your travel in the green in software program. This is why I showed picture 4a and 4b on collective. When I set collective pitch in computer program I always start at center stick and set blades to 0 degrees, then move tx stick to full positive and adjust in program, and move stick to full negative and adjust in program for 12+/-. I always try to keep cyclics and collective between 80 and 100 in Robird computer software. If the program feels it is out of wack it will tell you. I have had too play with servo arm lengths afew times to get it right.

LawnDartHeli · 11-03-2012, 08:05 PM

Good to know. Thank you!

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SDedic214 · 11-06-2012, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ifheli

At this time,I don`t own a 500. All of my 3GY/ G31`s are on 450`s. On the cyclics and collective you will want to keep your travel in the green in software program. This is why I showed picture 4a and 4b on collective. When I set collective pitch in computer program I always start at center stick and set blades to 0 degrees, then move tx stick to full positive and adjust in program, and move stick to full negative and adjust in program for 12+/-. I always try to keep cyclics and collective between 80 and 100 in Robird computer software. If the program feels it is out of wack it will tell you. I have had too play with servo arm lengths afew times to get it right.

Here are some general servo arm lengths to consider when setting up your Robird G31:

250 cyclic: 10.5mm tail: 5mm
450 cyclic: 12.5mm tail: 8mm
500 cyclic: 18mm tail: 10mm
550 cyclic: 21mm tail: 13mm
700 cyclic: 11 to 12mm tail: 13 to 15mm
(Note: For 700 size helis the above distances are for push/pull systems)

Note: These are GENERAL guidelines and you should always refer to your helis assembly manual first.

LawnDartHeli · 11-06-2012, 05:14 PM

Good info, thank you sir!

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SDedic214 · 11-07-2012, 04:44 AM

Robird is setting up a distributor here in the US which means that there will be product and technical (after sales) support for customers. The first shipment of G31s are already here. More info to follow.

Jonathan Ott · 11-07-2012, 07:27 AM

What about the 600 size birds?

Quote:

Originally Posted by SDedic214

Here are some general servo arm lengths to consider when setting up your Robird G31:

250 cyclic: 10.5mm tail: 5mm
450 cyclic: 12.5mm tail: 8mm
500 cyclic: 18mm tail: 10mm
550 cyclic: 21mm tail: 13mm
700 cyclic: 11 to 12mm tail: 13 to 15mm
(Note: For 700 size helis the above distances are for push/pull systems)

Note: These are GENERAL guidelines and you should always refer to your helis assembly manual first.

burhay · 11-07-2012, 08:58 AM

Im using Hi-tec HS-5245MG for cyclic.

Within the robird software under the servo setting. It has a dropdown for the swash, tail and motor ESC/Throttle. This allows you to selcet the correct frequency for the servo.

After looking up the specs for the hitec its showing 200hz. The dropdown shows 125,250,333hz. Which do i select to work with my servos?

LawnDartHeli · 11-07-2012, 09:05 AM

A good rule is to go below the rated frequency. Too high a frequency and you could burn out the servos amplifier and motor. You could try the 250 setting, but I would keep an eye on the servo temp.

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LawnDartHeli · 11-07-2012, 09:07 AM

What voltage are you running them at? If your at 6v I would see the 125hz as the better option.

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burhay · 11-07-2012, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LawnDartHeli

A good rule is to go below the rated frequency. Too high a frequency and you could burn out the servos amplifier and motor. You could try the 250 setting, but I would keep an eye on the servo temp.

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Yes 6 volts

Will do. One more question. Im using an align rce-BL60G. Dont see any info on the HZ of the unit. Should i just select 125hz?

LawnDartHeli · 11-07-2012, 09:13 AM

*edit
It asks for esc frequency?

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LawnDartHeli · 11-07-2012, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Ott

What about the 600 size birds?

I would think 550 and 600 size would be the same?

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10-31-2012, 04:21 PM	#1 (permalink)
LawnDartHeli Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2011	Robird G31 rollup Just wanted to make a thread for current and upcoming users of this FBL unit. Mainly what I would like to see myself would be setup tips, both mechanical and software wise. Feel free to post pics or ask questions. I do not have mine in my hands yet, but I'm interested in its quirks..if it indeed has any. Maybe if someone has this unit on a 450 they could post what settings/gains they use..same for 500's, 550's, etc... Links to setup vids and firmware updates would help to. sent from my phone using circus midgets __________________ Compass 7HV Gaui X5 Formula HD Cell 500 Last edited by LawnDartHeli; 11-01-2012 at 11:29 AM..

11-01-2012, 07:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
LawnDartHeli Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Dec 2011	Heres some setup vids: [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud506Xxwl5c&feature=player_embedded[/ame] [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGrSHtH_7jI&feature=player_embedded[/ame] [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEW6XP1KoHg&feature=player_embedded[/ame] [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwYnYOP-JFg&feature=player_embedded[/ame] [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_IlRhiyb-Q&feature=player_embedded[/ame] [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNb53FB1S90&feature=player_embedded[/ame] [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2ukj1fjmEQ&feature=player_embedded[/ame] There are more here:http://www.skyhobbies.com.sg/pagelin...RobirdG31.html __________________ Compass 7HV Gaui X5 Formula HD Cell 500

11-02-2012, 08:12 PM	#3 (permalink)
lucidchaos Registered Users Join Date: Oct 2011	I just received my G31 unit today. It appears mine shipped before they were updated with the phase sensor. I will update as I complete set up and review. It was packaged very well directly from HiModel in China. I cannot comment on shipping time since my shipping was affected by the hurricane. __________________ Gaui X7 Tribunus 200A, Xnova XTS 4525-530, Xpert R2/T, iKon2 BT Gaui X5 HW 100A V3,Gaui 4020-910,KST, iKon[/FONT]

11-03-2012, 02:58 PM	#4 (permalink)
Jonathan Ott Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jan 2005	sub'd __________________ Chaos 600E

11-03-2012, 05:02 PM	#5 (permalink)
ifheli Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2006	Here`s some shots of my settings on a MiniTitan that has an ALZRC 3GY which is the same as Robird G31.. I`m still playing with tail settings Attached Thumbnails

11-03-2012, 05:26 PM	#6 (permalink)
LawnDartHeli Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Dec 2011	Did you use the supplied tape for mounting? I'm guessing it doesnt use a seperate vib sensor, so I wonder if stiffer tape will effect its reading? sent from my phone using circus midgets __________________ Compass 7HV Gaui X5 Formula HD Cell 500

11-03-2012, 05:46 PM	#7 (permalink)
ifheli Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2006	I`m useing 3M tape on all of my Helis. I have one Black Widow, 3 ALZRC and two more G31 on the way.

11-03-2012, 06:36 PM	#8 (permalink)
LawnDartHeli Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Dec 2011	A guy on RCG has the Robird on a Trex 500. I had asked him what servo ball distance it calls for. He said his is around 18.5mm. That works for me because a T500 servo balls have to be run on the inside of the arms..and that in turn makes them contact the servo housing on full sweep. I moved my balls out on mine (with the ZYX) and had to turn the cyclic gain way down. He said the Robird will tell you if you have enough travel, if not you move the balls out. That works in my favor I guess. He said also make sure to have a full 12+/12- pitch range before messing with 0/center stick. Did you notice this as well? BJ545 likes this. __________________ Compass 7HV Gaui X5 Formula HD Cell 500

11-03-2012, 07:52 PM	#9 (permalink)
ifheli Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2006	At this time,I don`t own a 500. All of my 3GY/ G31`s are on 450`s. On the cyclics and collective you will want to keep your travel in the green in software program. This is why I showed picture 4a and 4b on collective. When I set collective pitch in computer program I always start at center stick and set blades to 0 degrees, then move tx stick to full positive and adjust in program, and move stick to full negative and adjust in program for 12+/-. I always try to keep cyclics and collective between 80 and 100 in Robird computer software. If the program feels it is out of wack it will tell you. I have had too play with servo arm lengths afew times to get it right.

11-03-2012, 08:05 PM	#10 (permalink)
LawnDartHeli Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Dec 2011	Good to know. Thank you! sent from my phone using circus midgets __________________ Compass 7HV Gaui X5 Formula HD Cell 500

11-06-2012, 05:14 PM	#12 (permalink)
LawnDartHeli Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Dec 2011	Good info, thank you sir! sent from my phone using circus midgets __________________ Compass 7HV Gaui X5 Formula HD Cell 500

11-07-2012, 04:44 AM	#13 (permalink)
SDedic214 Registered Users Join Date: Oct 2010	Robird is setting up a distributor here in the US which means that there will be product and technical (after sales) support for customers. The first shipment of G31s are already here. More info to follow.

11-07-2012, 08:58 AM	#15 (permalink)
burhay Registered Users Join Date: Jun 2012	Servo Frequency Im using Hi-tec HS-5245MG for cyclic. Within the robird software under the servo setting. It has a dropdown for the swash, tail and motor ESC/Throttle. This allows you to selcet the correct frequency for the servo. After looking up the specs for the hitec its showing 200hz. The dropdown shows 125,250,333hz. Which do i select to work with my servos? __________________ Trex 500 ESP, Compass TracX Head, Ikon FBL HK 450 Trex Clone Flying..... Into the wild blue yonder

11-07-2012, 09:05 AM	#16 (permalink)
LawnDartHeli Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Dec 2011	A good rule is to go below the rated frequency. Too high a frequency and you could burn out the servos amplifier and motor. You could try the 250 setting, but I would keep an eye on the servo temp. sent from my phone using circus midgets __________________ Compass 7HV Gaui X5 Formula HD Cell 500

11-07-2012, 09:07 AM	#17 (permalink)
LawnDartHeli Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Dec 2011	What voltage are you running them at? If your at 6v I would see the 125hz as the better option. sent from my phone using circus midgets __________________ Compass 7HV Gaui X5 Formula HD Cell 500

11-07-2012, 09:13 AM	#19 (permalink)
LawnDartHeli Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Dec 2011	edit It asks for esc frequency? sent from my phone using circus midgets __________________ Compass 7HV Gaui X5 Formula HD Cell 500*

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