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ssozonoff · 11-04-2009, 02:41 PM

Looking great DJ.

Would be great to get it a little lighter specifically for Quad use, though I understand that this will probably drive up the costs.

Serge

PhotoShip One · 11-04-2009, 06:28 PM

so... a tilt/roll mini ring "lite" for quad use with perhaps a 6 or 7 ounce target design limit? Let me put that in the creative brain bank and mull it over.

ssozonoff · 11-05-2009, 03:52 AM

DJ,

Yup thats correct, I (and maybe others) don't mind paying a premium for the weight loss (eg. price of carbon vs G10).

Building the ring is of course one part, fixing it to the quad is another but I assume that a large amount of the serious quad owners will be able to come up with that solution themselves based on their quad design.

Happy to work on this with you since its something I have been thinking about for a while but never found the time to build though I did start prototyping a mount which in the end I was not 100% happy because I did not have a good solution for roll compensation. Proto was in GF, final would have been in CF for the weight saving.

Maybe the ring can fit into my existing fixture?

Thanks,
Serge

PhotoShip One · 11-05-2009, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Maybe the ring can fit into my existing fixture?

outer roll ring will be exactly 7" diameter.

ssozonoff · 11-05-2009, 11:54 AM

OK cool,

Let me bring up my drawings and see how that would fit. Sounds like its a bit bigger but the change should be trivial.

Serge

andrebandre · 11-08-2009, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhotoShip One

1st mini gimbal prototype complete. 5:1 gear reduction on pan, direct drive on tilt, and direct drive 3.75:1 reduction on roll. As with the Aerio X gimbal, this can be configured with dual or single tilt servos, although after I do testing it may not be necessary for dual if the Hyperion DS16 servo is up to the task

Weight as shown not including the mounting arm is 13.5 ounces. My calculated weight projections were almost dead on. Weight with the aluminum/carbon mounting arm is 16 ounces even.

I know you guys are wondering about cost. I'm going to work out the materials and manufacturing costs later this week or early next week.

I would love a CF version of the mini.Regardless of cost.And maby some red alu bling like the 2x CF version.

ben1101 · 11-10-2009, 11:11 AM

Hi PS1,

You can count me in if you are doing a quad version. The ring is a much needed kit for the quad market.

Ben.

Bladyrunner · 11-17-2009, 02:44 PM

Hello Ps1. It can be installed in VRoblique correctly?

ssozonoff · 11-26-2009, 06:19 AM

Hi DJ,

Any updates ?

Thanks,
Serge

PhotoShip One · 11-26-2009, 08:08 AM

I had to stall this project for a couple weeks. Got a couple contracts to build some turnkey systems which are due mid December.

I do intend to get back on it though soon. Also I've been working on the large 3 axis gimbal.... I think that one is going to surprise everyone.... the 3rd axis is rather unique.

Fergus · 11-27-2009, 11:17 AM

"Also I've been working on the large 3 axis gimbal.... I think that one is going to surprise everyone.... the 3rd axis is rather unique."

Now thats what I wanted to hear. Keep us posted DJ. I've been waiting on this one with great interest.

PhotoShip One · 12-12-2009, 01:46 AM

Finally after a few weeks of delay while finishing up other tasks, I've had the chance to finish up the mini ring gimbal.

Finally have worked out the final production version of the 2 and 3 axis mini ring gimbals, now named the "Meridian" gimbal.

The production version was scaled up slightly from the prototypes to allow for the use of small DSLR cameras like the D40X. Small HD camcorders fit great as do any point and shoot. I believe these are the smallest ring gimbals you can currently buy.

2 axis and 3 axis versions. Tilt and Roll axis are proportional servo driven via a programmable Hyperion metal gear servo. The pan on the 3 axis version is non-proportional (continuous drive). tilt has around 110 degrees of total travel and roll has 60 degrees (30 each side of horizontal), however, for portrait mode shooting you can convert the inner ring to 90 degrees vertical in a couple seconds and still retain about 45 degrees total roll travel.

Weight for the 2 axis is 11 ounces. 3 axis is 14 ounces. Overall outside diameter is approx. 8.5" Machined from aluminum, G10, with stainless hardware and ring bearings.

Price for 2 axis is $419, 3 axis is $495.

We'll have adapter attachment kits to fit these to the Aerio X and 2XPT camera mounts.

2 axis version shown below.

yes! it even fits an Apple Magic Mouse!

Dorydriver · 12-12-2009, 06:23 AM

Awesome to see!

I was just wondering about the red line going into the d40x. Is that how it is connected to remotely trigger the shutter?

rerazor · 12-12-2009, 07:01 AM

SWEET!!!! Great Price point......

Hangerash · 12-12-2009, 12:44 PM

Very nice DJ

Cant wait to see the pro camera version !

akouzmit · 12-12-2009, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhotoShip One

Finally after a few weeks of delay while finishing up other tasks, I've had the chance to finish up the mini ring gimbal.

I am looking forward to purchase this ring with adapter for Aerio X.

Could you post some short video clip with this ring demo, please?

Thank you.
Owner of Aerio X

epkencijus · 12-13-2009, 11:02 AM

Hello,

Nice Job! I am also interested this 3 axis gimbal. Is it possible to see a short video demo how does it work?

RealFlightHero · 12-13-2009, 11:14 AM

Looks very nice!!

Photoship one: it would be so cool to se a demo video with a gyro connected to the roll axis, and nothing else.

borneobear · 12-13-2009, 06:46 PM

As usual, great work PS1!

Any confirmed date when it'll be up for sale?

PhotoShip One · 12-13-2009, 11:44 PM

I'll try to get video up real soon. They are available for purchase now. I still need to get them up on the site though.

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ssozonoff Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2006	DJ, Yup thats correct, I (and maybe others) don't mind paying a premium for the weight loss (eg. price of carbon vs G10). Building the ring is of course one part, fixing it to the quad is another but I assume that a large amount of the serious quad owners will be able to come up with that solution themselves based on their quad design. Happy to work on this with you since its something I have been thinking about for a while but never found the time to build though I did start prototyping a mount which in the end I was not 100% happy because I did not have a good solution for roll compensation. Proto was in GF, final would have been in CF for the weight saving. Maybe the ring can fit into my existing fixture? Thanks, Serge Attached Thumbnails

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rerazor Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2005	SWEET!!!! Great Price point...... __________________ Robert - DJIUSA.com N. A. Dist. for DJI Innovations USA Dist. for Photohigher USA Dist. for Vario (Industrial)

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11-04-2009, 02:41 PM	#41 (permalink)
ssozonoff Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2006	Looking great DJ. Would be great to get it a little lighter specifically for Quad use, though I understand that this will probably drive up the costs. Serge

11-04-2009, 06:28 PM	#42 (permalink)
PhotoShip One Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Dec 2008	so... a tilt/roll mini ring "lite" for quad use with perhaps a 6 or 7 ounce target design limit? Let me put that in the creative brain bank and mull it over.

11-05-2009, 11:54 AM	#45 (permalink)
ssozonoff Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2006	OK cool, Let me bring up my drawings and see how that would fit. Sounds like its a bit bigger but the change should be trivial. Serge

11-10-2009, 11:11 AM	#47 (permalink)
ben1101 Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2008	Hi PS1, You can count me in if you are doing a quad version. The ring is a much needed kit for the quad market. Ben.

11-26-2009, 06:19 AM	#49 (permalink)
ssozonoff Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2006	Hi DJ, Any updates ? Thanks, Serge

11-26-2009, 08:08 AM	#50 (permalink)
PhotoShip One Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Dec 2008	I had to stall this project for a couple weeks. Got a couple contracts to build some turnkey systems which are due mid December. I do intend to get back on it though soon. Also I've been working on the large 3 axis gimbal.... I think that one is going to surprise everyone.... the 3rd axis is rather unique.

11-27-2009, 11:17 AM	#51 (permalink)
Fergus Registered Users Join Date: Mar 2007	"Also I've been working on the large 3 axis gimbal.... I think that one is going to surprise everyone.... the 3rd axis is rather unique." Now thats what I wanted to hear. Keep us posted DJ. I've been waiting on this one with great interest.

12-12-2009, 01:46 AM	#52 (permalink)
PhotoShip One Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Dec 2008	Finally after a few weeks of delay while finishing up other tasks, I've had the chance to finish up the mini ring gimbal. Finally have worked out the final production version of the 2 and 3 axis mini ring gimbals, now named the "Meridian" gimbal. The production version was scaled up slightly from the prototypes to allow for the use of small DSLR cameras like the D40X. Small HD camcorders fit great as do any point and shoot. I believe these are the smallest ring gimbals you can currently buy. 2 axis and 3 axis versions. Tilt and Roll axis are proportional servo driven via a programmable Hyperion metal gear servo. The pan on the 3 axis version is non-proportional (continuous drive). tilt has around 110 degrees of total travel and roll has 60 degrees (30 each side of horizontal), however, for portrait mode shooting you can convert the inner ring to 90 degrees vertical in a couple seconds and still retain about 45 degrees total roll travel. Weight for the 2 axis is 11 ounces. 3 axis is 14 ounces. Overall outside diameter is approx. 8.5" Machined from aluminum, G10, with stainless hardware and ring bearings. Price for 2 axis is $419, 3 axis is $495. We'll have adapter attachment kits to fit these to the Aerio X and 2XPT camera mounts. 2 axis version shown below. yes! it even fits an Apple Magic Mouse!

12-12-2009, 06:23 AM	#53 (permalink)
Dorydriver Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2009	Awesome to see! I was just wondering about the red line going into the d40x. Is that how it is connected to remotely trigger the shutter?

12-12-2009, 12:44 PM	#55 (permalink)
Hangerash Registered Users Join Date: Nov 2007	Very nice DJ Cant wait to see the pro camera version !

12-13-2009, 11:02 AM	#57 (permalink)
epkencijus Registered Users Join Date: Oct 2007	Hello, Nice Job! I am also interested this 3 axis gimbal. Is it possible to see a short video demo how does it work?

12-13-2009, 11:14 AM	#58 (permalink)
RealFlightHero Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2009	Looks very nice!! Photoship one: it would be so cool to se a demo video with a gyro connected to the roll axis, and nothing else.

12-13-2009, 06:46 PM	#59 (permalink)
borneobear Registered Users Join Date: May 2006	As usual, great work PS1! Any confirmed date when it'll be up for sale?

12-13-2009, 11:44 PM	#60 (permalink)
PhotoShip One Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Dec 2008	I'll try to get video up real soon. They are available for purchase now. I still need to get them up on the site though.

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