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Old 10-23-2015, 01:25 AM   #281 (permalink)
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Here is my new Sport set up -
  • Flight Style: Hard 3D or there of...
  • FBL System: Vbar Neo with Bail out
  • Motor: Xnova 4020 -1200KV 2Y
  • Pinion: 18T
  • Target Headspeed(s): 2500 (mostly)
  • ESC: CC Talon 120 HV/w 20amp BEC
  • Governor: E Gov
  • BEC: None, using the internal ESC BEC
  • RX Pack: None
  • Cyclic Servos: BK Midi Servos coreless
  • Tail Servo: BK7001 Midi tail servo coreless
  • Main Blades: SAB 500 mm
  • Tail Blades: SAB 80 mm
  • LiPos: Pulse 4 -6S 4500 65C
  • Anything Else: Vbar Neo Bailout with Vbar Control
(EVEN GOT THE SILLY BAG which I have loved with my 380's).
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hello I'm sorry, I saw that you threw the government on Vbar with the engine xnova 4020 1200KV, you'd know I say that you gave on the timing and PWM controller?
and the VBar many poles you wrote?
Thank you in advance
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Old 10-30-2015, 01:00 AM   #282 (permalink)
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hello I'm sorry, I saw that you threw the government on Vbar with the engine xnova 4020 1200KV, you'd know I say that you gave on the timing and PWM controller?
and the VBar many poles you wrote?
Thank you in advance

I would like to throw the government sometimes.. this is true. (I am making a bad joke).

None the less I had to change some things due to size. Castle really should have made this ESC more size friendly. -- Needless to say, I changed this I went to the Castle lite 130 with the pro BEC 20 amp due to size constraints. I am running them in my goblins now to be current tech. I won't know until my builder and I spend some time on it.
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Old 12-11-2015, 04:07 PM   #283 (permalink)
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My config:

Flight Style: Smooth 3D / Big Sky
FBL System: MXH BRAIN
Motor: Xnova 4020-1000Kv
Pinion: T18
Target Headspeed(s): 2300
ESC: Kontronik Jive 100+ LV ESC
Governor: mode 4 jive
BEC: Hercules mini BEC G2 @ 8,2V
Cyclic Servos: BK DS-5001HV
Tail Servo: BK DS-7005HV
Main Blades: Radix V2 554mm
Tail Blades: SAB stock

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Old 02-18-2016, 07:32 PM   #284 (permalink)
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Flight Style: Big Air / light 3D
FBL System: MSH Brain
Motor: Savox BSM4750
Pinion: 16t
Target Headspeed(s): 2250
ESC: Hobbywing 100A V3
Governor: Brain
BEC: none
Cyclic Servos: BK DS-5001HV
Tail Servo: BK DS-7005HV
Main Blades: SAB Stock for now
Tail Blades: SAB stock

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Lynx motor mount, SAB alternate skids (not installed yet)
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Old 02-19-2016, 09:43 PM   #285 (permalink)
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New G500 Sport (yellow)
Flight Style: Sport / Big Sky / mild 3D
FBL System: Spirit Pro
Motor: Quantum 4120-1200Kv
Pinion: T18
Target Headspeed(s): 2400
ESC: HW 100A V3 ESC
Governor: Internal HW gov
BEC: Internal HW BEC @ 7.4
Cyclic Servos: BK DS-5001HV
Tail Servo: BK DS-7005HV
Main Blades: Rail 516
Tail Blades: Rail 80.6

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Lynx motor mount (blk), lynx CNC tail pitch arm, Upgraded sport skids, original 500 tail fin, lynx upper tail case
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Old 04-01-2016, 09:06 AM   #286 (permalink)
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Finally got my first Goblin,a 500 original. Yellow and Black. Did the maiden on sunday and no issue. WOW! I cant get over smooth it is.
  • Flight Style: (Sport )
  • FBL System: (MSH Brain)
  • Motor: (Quantum 4120-1200 KV)
  • Pinion: 16 for now
  • Target Headspeed(s):
  • ESC: (Hobbywing Platinum v3 100A)
  • Governor: (ESC, for now)
  • Cyclic Servos: (KST 589)
  • Tail Servo: (KST 525)
  • Main Blades: (Align 520)
  • Tail Blades: (Stock)
  • LiPos: (Glacier 4400 45C)
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Old 04-01-2016, 09:08 AM   #287 (permalink)
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Finally got my first Goblin,a 500 original. Yellow and Black. Did the maiden on sunday and no issue. WOW! I cant get over smooth it is
Yeah it is amazing my lowest vibe heli. 200 at 2800 rpms.
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Old 05-30-2016, 04:30 AM   #288 (permalink)
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New G500 Sport (yellow).
Building still in process, so I cannot yet say which headspeed I like best for my (poor) pilot skills...
  • Flight Style: Sport flying, no 3D
  • FBL System: MSH Brain
  • Motor: Quantum 4120-1200 KV
  • Pinion: 17 for now
  • Target Headspeed(s): probably around 2200/2400, need to test it
  • ESC: Hobbywing Platinum v3 100A
  • Governor: ESC
  • BEC: Internal HW BEC @ 8.4v
  • Cyclic Servos: KST 589
  • Tail Servo: KST 525
  • Main Blades: Stock
  • Tail Blades: Stock
  • LiPos: RHINO 4900 25C
  • Extra: SAB Quick release canopy mounts
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Old 05-30-2016, 05:07 AM   #289 (permalink)
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Flight Style: Sport/Old style, light 3D
FBL System: Bavarian Demon 3SX
Motor: Kontronik Pyro 600-12
Pinion: 18 Stock
Target Headspeed(s): 2450 / 2650
ESC: Kontronik Heli-Jive 120 HV+
Governor: Heli Jive Gov.
BEC: Gryphon Quasar Hyper 75V 20A HV Switching BEC
Cyclic Servos: Futaba BLS351
Tail Servo: Futaba BLS251
Main Blades: 516 mm Rail carbon fiber main blades
Tail Blades: 80,6 mm Rail carbon Fiber Tail blades
LiPos: Pulse 4500mAh 6S 65C
TX/RX: Futaba T12FG, Futaba R6303SBE Receiver.
Extras: 2mm SAB main frame, Heavy duty motor pinion, NOVA rotor head, KDE battery tray, KDE landing kid mount block, Lynx main gear, titanium push rods, HeliOptions Dual Point Precision tail control, Canomod Canopy Red Eyes design
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Old 05-31-2016, 01:25 AM   #290 (permalink)
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New G500 Sport (white).
Flight Style: medium 3D
FBL System: AR7200BX + dsmx sat + tm1100
Motor: Quantum 4120-1200 KV
Pinion: 18
Target Headspeed(s): 2200/2400/2600
ESC: CC Talon 90
Governor: ESC
BEC: Internal CC BEC @ 6v
Cyclic Servos: KST DS589Mg
Tail Servo: KST DS525Mg
Main Blades: Rail 516
Tail Blades: Rail 80.6
LiPos: Nanotech 3300 mah 45c
Extra: Heli option Quick release canopy mounts, Aluminium Cooling Motor Mount.
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Old 05-31-2016, 06:05 AM   #291 (permalink)
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Default Goblin 500 Sport

Flight Style: Sport /3D
FBL System: Vbar Neo
Motor: Xnova 4020-1200
Pinion: T19
Target Headspeed(s): 2200, 2450,2750
ESC: Kontronik Jive 120pro Hv
Governor: mode 4 jive
BEC: Kontronik 8V
Cyclic Servos: Xpert-RC SM-5401 HV
Tail Servo: Xpert-RC SM-2202T HV
Main Blades: SAB stock
Tail Blades: SAB stock
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Old 07-26-2016, 04:48 PM   #292 (permalink)
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Flight Style: Sport
FBL System: EZnov Neuron
Motor: Quantum 4125-560
Pinion: T18 (stock)
Target Headspeed(s): 2000, 2500,2700
ESC: Graupner Brushless control +T 80 HV
Governor: no
BEC:
Cyclic Servos: Graupner HBS 880 BB MG
Tail Servo: Graupner HBS 880 BB MG
Main Blades: SAB stock
Tail Blades: Linx
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Old 08-02-2016, 07:56 AM   #293 (permalink)
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  • Flight Style: (Sport / Smooth 3D / Smack 3D / Big Sky / FAI / Speed) Smooth 3D
  • FBL System: (Brand, Model, Version [if applicable]) Brain v1 HW w v2.0.008 FW
  • Motor: (Brand, Model, KV) Quantum 4120-1200kv
  • Pinion: 18T
  • Target Headspeed(s): 2600RPM
  • ESC: (Brand & Model/Size) YGE 120LV
  • Governor: (ESC, FBL System, none, etc.) Brain
  • BEC: (Brand & Model, or NONE if straight from pack) YGE 120LV
  • RX Pack: (Brand, Model, Chemistry, Capacity) [i.e. Hyperion LiFePO4 6.6v 2S 2100mAh RX Pack]) NA
  • Cyclic Servos: (Brand, Model) BK 5001HV
  • Tail Servo: (Brand, Model) BK 7005HV
  • Main Blades: (Brand, Model [if applicable], Length) SAB 500mm
  • Tail Blades: (Brand, Model [if applicable], Length) SAB
  • LiPos: (Brand, Model, C-Rating, Cells, Capacity) [i.e. Thunder Power G6 65C 6S 4400 mAh in series as 12S) Gens Ace 6S 35C 4400mAh
  • Anything Else: (Buffer pack w/Jive, Fromeco DC-Up II, Scorpion Backup Guard, etc.)
Flown this for 2 years, still love the setup....

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Old 03-06-2017, 07:24 PM   #294 (permalink)
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  • Flight Style: Smooth 3D/ Hard 3D
  • FBL System: Ikon2 with 2 spektrum satellites
  • Motor: Scorpion HKlll 4020-1350
  • Pinion: 17t
  • Target Headspeed(s): 2650RPM
  • ESC: Hobbywing Platinum Pro 100amp V3
  • Governor: Ikon2 Gov
  • BEC: Using bec in esc
  • RX Pack: NA
  • Cyclic Servos: BK 5001HV
  • Tail Servo: BK 7005HV
  • Main Blades: SAB 500mm
  • Tail Blades: SAB
  • LiPos: Pulse 4500mah 45C
  • Anything Else: Sponsored by Coors Original and hard work!
  • DX9
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Old 03-07-2017, 05:50 AM   #295 (permalink)
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  • Flight Style: Smooth 3D/ Hard 3D
  • FBL System: Ikon2 with 2 spektrum satellites
  • Motor: Scorpion HKlll 4020-1350
  • Pinion: 17t
  • Target Headspeed(s): 2650RPM
  • ESC: Hobbywing Platinum Pro 100amp V3
  • Governor: Ikon2 Gov
  • BEC: Using bec in esc
  • RX Pack: NA
  • Cyclic Servos: BK 5001HV
  • Tail Servo: BK 7005HV
  • Main Blades: SAB 500mm
  • Tail Blades: SAB
  • LiPos: Pulse 4500mah 45C
  • Anything Else: Sponsored by Coors Original and hard work!
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You could get the 120V4 and get telemetry going for this setup and do away with those sat rcvrs.
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Old 03-07-2017, 07:18 AM   #296 (permalink)
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Why get the 120a V4? The 100amp should be plenty!
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Old 03-07-2017, 07:26 AM   #297 (permalink)
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Why get the 120a V4? The 100amp should be plenty!
Never said it wasn't enough. For the Brain/Ikon2 setup and to get telemetry you need the HWV4. You could go back to 80AV4, but most may not want to do that and it may not be right for the setup.
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Old 03-07-2017, 07:29 AM   #298 (permalink)
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Cool!!! I will keep that in mind!!!
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Old 03-11-2017, 09:23 PM   #299 (permalink)
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Default HPS3 headspeed on Goblin 500

Hello there,
What's a good headspeed for an HPS3 Goblin 500 sport? What's the most efficient Kv for the motor for this setup? I would really appreciate any responses.

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Old 04-26-2017, 10:08 AM   #300 (permalink)
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i have 2 of them...one is the combo kit
motor :Quantum 4120-1200 2nd : X-nova 4020-1200
esc :HW 100A v3 HW120 v4
fbl unit :BEASTX 4,2 pro Beastx 4.2 pro
servos : KST589mg MKS:HV9767
tail : KST525mg


hello there all people....i ll just paste the message i sent for 2nd time to the real beastx support.......i m having this problem since i got bigger helis from 450 size.....
after speakin with dunkan bossion and another 9-10 pilots who use beastx.....except dunkan all others have the old beastx 3axis and they say it is better....anyway......i write to you after 1 year again....believe it or not i still cant do properly aileron and elevator tic tocs when the last 2 years in all sims its the first thing i learned and in NExt phoenix real flight i can do them non stop all day i still didnt manage to setup the beastx to do them its like this manuver is disabled on beastx...i ll write to you what i have done and tried all this long time till yesteday .....first i heard your suggestion and from testing and put 7 up to 8 degree on Ji went back the 6 degrees on J.....i tried dual rates and EPA(ATVS) from 100 up to 155 and at same time was trying different positions on dial 2.....there was nothing left to try and so i used the parameter G (cyclic response) and i put it in even VEry high..on meny L of course all to the limits..mechanicaly i m prefect...mid stick 0.00d not even 0.01 or -0.01...EXACTLY 0.00....on menu J the blue light comes exactly too at 6 degrees not even 0.01 more or less....!Results???.....nothing the same thing i m so fustrated how is this possible? maybe people who say the new beastx PLUS is no good have right? i start thinkin of that....and i have 2nd black thunder now 700 building and i dont know if i m gonna use beastx this time...for first time cause till now in all my helis i used beastx....dunkan said that this is the best unit ...i asked him for his settings.......and i took the most stupid question...i fly with stock settings he said....nothing change on TX too....setup 12 pitch and parameter B to radio and thats it....i told him this is impossible cause the heli is too slow and i showed him his video with a goblin 500 the old one and sure he had then the old beastx too cause its 2012 video ....in the video he is doing icredible fast aileron tic tocs and in the same video in the 2nd flight he is doing a crazy thing i have never seen before....pitch pump extremely fast while flyin...i asked him about this and he says no he just move the stick fast no pitch boost is used....and mine which i have 13.5 degrees +- dont do even the normal pump.....take a look at the video pls if it happens you havent seen it..here is the link.... [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI7oCKvPZuQ"]Dunkan Bossion testing the new MKS HV9767 for helidigital - YouTube[/ame]

we use the same setup almost except ESC....i have hobbywing!
so we have tried up to 8 degrees on J......i got back to 6....dual rates tested till full.......cyclic response yesterday i tried till increased....3rd option...not high and very high....also i got more up the dial 2......
i have my TX setup like this.....per condition
normal : throttle 55% governor on always ...i lowed the dual rates in case the heli was to hard to land...ail/elev at 85% and expo -40
idle up1: throttle 60%(2200rpm)...dual rates 100 and expos -20 to all
idle up 2:throttle 70%(2550rpm)...dual rates 125 and expos -20 again
idle up 3:throttle 82%(3000-3050 rpm)...dual rates 150 and expos -20 again and dual rate to rudder to 90% and -40% expo


man....i dont really know what else to try.....i m dissapointed and fustrated cause especial the aileron tic tocs is my favorite manuver

if anyone asks.....in mid stick elevator i have +- 16.2 degrees up down and aileron the same almost +-16.4........collective 13.5-+
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