"The Performance of the nCPX is Right on Par with the mCPX."

[megawhacker]

OK, the title above is a "teaser"....please don't take it as flame bait. In full disclosure, I took it out of context...the fuller context being Horizon Hobby also made many other claims-including a claim that it is way more durable than the mCPx and a claim that the tail holds with aggressive control movement and that you will quickly be flying aerobatics indoors because it is lighter than the mCPX and has lower loading....etc.

I pre ordered my nCPX on day one just like most of the rest of you on this thread and I've not seen or flown one yet.

Full quote:

"The Performance of the nCPX is right on par with the mCPX...it is actually just a hair bit better in the hands of a capable pilot" 2:00 to 2:12 in the linked video

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHXQID8aLUM&feature=related[/ame]

Above is a link to the 9-13-2012 Horizon Hobby "On the Horizon" video. Perhaps 25 or 30% of the video addresses the nCPX.

At the end of the above video the September 7, 2012 RC Cast is mentioned as a source of many questions answered on the nCPX so I am putting a link here. I've not listened to it yet.

http://www.horizonhobby.com/content/...t_render-rcast

Well, I've got 3 of the mCPx. Anyone taking wagers on how long before I buy a 2nd nCPX?

Edit: I've since listened to the podcast and the nCPX discussion begins about 38% of the way into the podcast.

More edit: I notice that in the content above they are very careful to refer to the nCPX as an "aerobatic" helicopter and not a 3D capable helicopter. At some point there is reference to "fo tic tocs" and there is discussion about getting aggressive moves done in the first 20-25 seconds of a very good battery and that an expert pilot can make "fo tic tocs" look an awful lot like "tic tocs". I also notice that our expectations are being lowered about how it might handle outdoors on any but the most calm day.

I'm going to guess that when we first get the nCPX in our hands we will find that the information presented by Horizon Hobby in the video and that the information in the Podcast will be found to be highly accurate. The nCPX will be no more and no less than promised.

I expect to be highly pleased with the product.

[HeliPorn]

I just really hope the tail holds as good as they say it will during aggressive stick movements. . I really despised that about the mcpx.

Anyway, did they say the nCPX has the same tail setup as the mCPX? As in same motor and rotor?? If so, that sounds promising.

Pre-ordered mine yesterday.

[Brian James]

This video is a quick "review" (a fellow freaker). The video says "prototype" but it's really is a production version.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=PwqA-tac0tA

[dcarboni]

awsome can't wait for mine to come in next week. Let winter come

[Lessthanryan]

Originally Posted by HeliPorn

I just really hope the tail holds as good as they say it will during aggressive stick movements. . I really despised that about the mcpx.

Anyway, did they say the nCPX has the same tail setup as the mCPX? As in same motor and rotor?? If so, that sounds promising.

Pre-ordered mine yesterday.

The smaller main rotor diameter and weight will translate into less mass/force for the tail to offset or "hold" against. Seems like it should work well in theory. We will see shortly!

[KlaimXI]

Maybe just in case i should pick up a mCP X Tail boom.

[mdbsat]

I have both the mCPX and the nCPX and while the new nano holds up a little better than the mCPX it isnt that much better in my humble opinion.

[tacomaster]

Originally Posted by mdbsat

I have both the mCPX and the nCPX and while the new nano holds up a little better than the mCPX it isnt that much better in my humble opinion.

depends on your flying level...... im doing advanced non stop 3d with piros and hard stops. The nano cpx handles it better than the 130x IMO and is way beyond the mcpx.

[mdbsat]

This may be the case for sure, I am indeed a beginner.

[HeliPorn]

Originally Posted by mdbsat

I have both the mCPX and the nCPX and while the new nano holds up a little better than the mCPX it isnt that much better in my humble opinion.

This may be the case for sure, I am indeed a beginner.

What are the better aspects of the nCPX over the mCPX to you? I would love to hear the opinion of someone who isn't a pro at collective management. I don't need to be perfect with my CM when piloting any of my larger helis (300X and 450X) so i'm looking for a nano that "tolerates" some collective slop.

[lovespicyfood]

Originally Posted by tacomaster

depends on your flying level...... im doing advanced non stop 3d with piros and hard stops. The nano cpx handles it better than the 130x IMO and is way beyond the mcpx.

I agree that the Nano is way beyond the MCPX in all aspects of 3D. IMO, the MCPX flys bigger and is way better for learning everything else but 3D. I have a 130X and I would say it is way better at 3D than the Nano based on power and precision of the tail. But I am just learning 3D so take that with a grain of salt...

[corrosionate]

I just got mine today. Only 4 flights so far, so I have not yet broken in the motor, but so far I would agree that it is right on par with the MCPX. By this I mean that it has all the things I don't like about the MCPX. Tail still blows out, motor still bogs, and it still wobbles like the thing they use to mix paint at the hardware store when descending with near zero pitch. I really had high hopes for this thing based on everyone else's positive comments, but basically wound up with another MCPX that's just a tad smaller.

I'll keep flying it, and hopefully I'll start to like it better when the motor gets broken in, but I would think that once the main motor generates more torque, the tail will just have an even harder time keeping up. Maybe the tail motor will break in and stop sucking. Time will tell, but so far, yep, it is just like my MCPX that's been shoved in a drawer since I got the 130x.

I guess my experience is totally opposite of everyone else, because I have been having a blast with the 130x while everyone else hates it, but I'm not thrilled with the Ncpx while everyone else loves it! Go figure.

[tacomaster]

Originally Posted by corrosionate

I just got mine today. Only 4 flights so far, so I have not yet broken in the motor, but so far I would agree that it is right on par with the MCPX. By this I mean that it has all the things I don't like about the MCPX. Tail still blows out, motor still bogs, and it still wobbles like the thing they use to mix paint at the hardware store when descending with near zero pitch. I really had high hopes for this thing based on everyone else's positive comments, but basically wound up with another MCPX that's just a tad smaller.

I'll keep flying it, and hopefully I'll start to like it better when the motor gets broken in, but I would think that once the main motor generates more torque, the tail will just have an even harder time keeping up. Maybe the tail motor will break in and stop sucking. Time will tell, but so far, yep, it is just like my MCPX that's been shoved in a drawer since I got the 130x.

I guess my experience is totally opposite of everyone else, because I have been having a blast with the 130x while everyone else hates it, but I'm not thrilled with the Ncpx while everyone else loves it! Go figure.

motor needs to be broken in, tail seems like the prop needs a little bend in it for more pitch, shakes are due to blades being to loose, feathering shaft too loose or the screws on the front of the board are loose.

my 3d's like a champ, even pulled off some piro flips yesterday

[asodestrom]

Originally Posted by corrosionate

I guess my experience is totally opposite of everyone else, because I have been having a blast with the 130x while everyone else hates it, but I'm not thrilled with the Ncpx while everyone else loves it! Go figure.

I'm loving my 130x and my Nano. Nano flies more like my bl mCPX
and way better than my stock mCPX. Get that nano properly tuned up and you will love it as well.

[mrmarc]

I like how it's supremely more responsive than the mCPX. Feels like how I would imagine the mCPX would behave with BL mods...and the tail flippin' holds (though I'm tempted to give a slightly longer tail boom a try for windy days).

[woodstock450]

im also wondering how much better it actually is than the mcpx as far as bogging and collective response. Ive read the reviews and it seems like people are very happy with it so far with the tail holding. I really had to learn good CM before flying my mcpx indoors...i just hoped the nano is alot more forgiving in this area but i guess ill see on friday when i pick one up. As the title says, if it really is "on par" with the mcpx theres no point to it imo...

[mrmarc]

I've had mine bog, but I haven't turned down the CP range like I did with my mCPX, either. This was also from a really hard pitch pump. That said, I didn't lose the tail.