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[georgi UK]

Originally Posted by Luvmyhelis

Can you imagine Arts reaction with me calling him and telling him I just smoked one of his Gps beta test units .

=] yes it's a privilege Randy, I live pretty much near on the major GMT meridian in western time, but could easily be in eastern time if needed,

in the first week I bricked the unit, had Huge support from Art & Kevin, remotely fixed! I have some awesome memories doing this stuff, learn a great deal along the way, which overspills in this forum,

is that a PID georgi UK loop, sure sounds like it?!!

[mkovalcson]

Originally Posted by Groucho_

Who cares?

Why are skills the measurement here?

I'd ask how much more would you enjoy yourself?
How much less would you worry about crashing?
How much better would you feel without the nervous tension each time you exit a loop a bit too fast and too close for comfort...

Skills shmills...

Give me fun and enjoyment over skills any day.

Right now I feel like I have nice equipment and have it setup well.

As I see it developing my flying skills is the main challenge that I will be working on from this point on.

I'm sorry, but without skills I'm just a poser with a bunch of eye candy to hover around.

What is the point in that? Boring!

There will always be new helis and new equipment, but at the end of the day my satisfaction will be measured based on how well I was able to fly.

[heathy]

I've got to say, if the SL is working then why worry. For me it would have been nice and I haven't completely discounted 1 yet. I've been flying my 540 equipped heli about now for a fair while and not once have I needed the SL in this time I've made very good progress and learnt inverted flight too. Something I wouldn't have thought possible a year ago. My 2nd 7hv is equipped with the 720 and a bailout and I'm going to be pushing harder from now on as I go through inverted backwards!

Maybe just maybe after I've seen the vids and read the success stories will I get one.




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[rallyant]

Originally Posted by mkovalcson

But how much better would your flying skills be?

When I hit the limits of what I can do with my 130X, I'll be asking myself this question a lot more.

I'm with you on this one. And its my main attraction to it! But in 6 months of flying I have gone from nervous basic upright circuits to confident inverted , nervous inverted backward circuits, half piro flips, tic tocs in every orientation etc.
I owe this to my 130x! But I can't see me outgrowing this limits of it? What orientation can't I work on with it? Once I have mastered inverted backward I'm going for upright backward then upright and inverted sideways. My 130 has been out of action for a few weeks and my progress feels like its come to a halt again.
But. Everything I have learnt I'm quite happy to do with my 7hv. Second flight I went straight into hurricane and half piro flips. Just do them higher I have no real fear I'll crash it. I'd just LOVE to be able to push beyond my limits as I do with the 130x

Plus I'm willing to bet this technology will be available from everyone and prices will plummet over the next 2-3 years.
Ortho , by then I plan on been able to do every trick in the book and want to be below 10m most of the time

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[Sambuka]

Originally Posted by rallyant

I'm with you on this one. And its my main attraction to it! But in 6 months of flying I have gone from nervous basic upright circuits to confident inverted , nervous inverted backward circuits, half piro flips, tic tocs in every orientation etc.
I owe this to my 130x! But I can't see me outgrowing this limits of it? What orientation can't I work on with it? Once I have mastered inverted backward I'm going for upright backward then upright and inverted sideways. My 130 has been out of action for a few weeks and my progress feels like its come to a halt again.
But. Everything I have learnt I'm quite happy to do with my 7hv. Second flight I went straight into hurricane and half piro flips. Just do them higher I have no real fear I'll crash it. I'd just LOVE to be able to push beyond my limits as I do with the 130x

Plus I'm willing to bet this technology will be available from everyone and prices will plummet over the next 2-3 years.
Ortho , by then I plan on been able to do every trick in the book and want to be below 10m most of the time

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Rallyant throw a hc3sx on your big bird and you'll fly your 7HV Harder than you do your 130X with almost zero risk. Harddeck is for newbies who think they won't have the reflexes to hit a button, there is nothing easier than flicking a switch and sending the Heli skyward in a instant no jamming on collective or extra thought required GPS on a 3d machine is kind of a waste, great for photo ships and FPV though.

[ArguZ]

Either that or Skookum gets that option too.
I can not think about positive or negative collective in a panic situation.
Especially not when the bird flips to one or the other side because its turned sideways and you have no idea what way it will turn.

[heathy]

Originally Posted by ArguZ

Either that or Skookum gets that option too.
I can not think about positive or negative collective in a panic situation.
Especially not when the bird flips to one or the other side because its turned sideways and you have no idea what way it will turn.

Easy, if Sl is always on @ 200% with control rates maxed out it will flip right way up from anywhere! Just add collective

[ArguZ]

Nope, thats the problem.
I had it set to Always on and inverted 200% .
The fastest rescue is not to rotate the bird upright and THEN add collective, its rotating it to the closest level, either upright or upside down and then add the respective collective.
And I do not want to do it myself...I am too slow to react and dont see good enough to find out what way the heli now turned when it is far away and was rolling sideways.
I know there are two schools , but I had the experience of adding collective the wrong way and it costed me my heli.
I need this function or something similar to call it a rescue switch.
Right now it is a fantastic self level feature which helped my flying upside down.
A first step could be to make the bank switch a three step switch where 1 is off, 2 is level and 3 is emergency Level and pitch up.

[Sambuka]

Don't get why the skookum doesn't have auto climb if it works with their new gps Harddeck I'd hope they add this feature. It's a must in my book.

[heathy]

Originally Posted by ArguZ

Nope, thats the problem.
I had it set to Always on and inverted 200% .
The fastest rescue is not to rotate the bird upright and THEN add collective, its rotating it to the closest level, either upright or upside down and then add the respective collective.
And I do not want to do it myself...I am too slow to react and dont see good enough to find out what way the heli now turned when it is far away and was rolling sideways.
I know there are two schools , but I had the experience of adding collective the wrong way and it costed me my heli.
I need this function or something similar to call it a rescue switch.
Right now it is a fantastic self level feature which helped my flying upside down.
A first step could be to make the bank switch a three step switch where 1 is off, 2 is level and 3 is emergency Level and pitch up.

The simple answer then is what i already suggested, set it to always on and not inverted.

[Sambuka]

Originally Posted by heathy

The simple answer then is what i already suggested, set it to always on and not inverted.

Doesn't save the Heli very fast though.

[mkovalcson]

Originally Posted by rallyant

I'm with you on this one. And its my main attraction to it! But in 6 months of flying I have gone from nervous basic upright circuits to confident inverted , nervous inverted backward circuits, half piro flips, tic tocs in every orientation etc.

What percent throttle are you using? I'm using TP 65C 325mah batteries and they come down pretty warm after 3 minutes.

I've noticed I can bog it down pretty badly and sometimes it gets wonky for a few seconds before it recovers ( tail unsettled ) That said it may help train you to have a smoother collective input.

My Protos and TDR can hold a very solid headspeed no matter what I throw at them and even my T550 will bog but the tail stays firmly in place. I guess that is the SK-720 at work keeping them rock solid, and the Jive governors keeping the head speed smooth.

[heathy]

Originally Posted by Sambuka

Doesn't save the Heli very fast though.

Mate, you are joking right??? Have you seen a properly setup 720 level its self @ max control rates and 200% SL?? Or even 100% for that matter.

Its so fast even on a 700. I'm not knocking the heli command unit here i actually like the idea.

[ModelGuard]

bailout from inverted 100 Percent

[ame]http://youtu.be/uNq0V4_r0oU[/ame]

this is on an early firmware without 200 percent.

See if anyone can recognise the flying field?

[Sambuka]

True Im sure its plenty fast enough if your not too low, I personally fly quite low and use my bailout regularly below 15 feet during hurricanes / funnels etc. for things like that a flip over type level doesn't work well. A few weeks back I was doing piro flips at 25 feet and screwed up bad, I ended up with my bailout saving the 550 Heli inverted level and climbing out from 1 meter off the ground(hit the bailout late). Stupidly close to a dead Heli, happened so fast a flick of a button was all I could do, the auto climb is a awesome feature hopefully skookum can make it work too with all the experimenting with the Harddeck they are doing.

[heathy]

Got any vids of the HC doing its stuff??

[ArguZ]

it doesnt change the fact that the heli needs to make a roll first that in worst case is 180%, and after thats done you need to manually put in pitch.
Here is the HC3SX Demo video where you can see how much quicker it is to keep the roll to the closest horizont and add pitch up.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_BpXhnKTFA&feature=related[/ame]
And in all fairness, here is the video where it goes terribly wrong and the Acro and Pitch function shoots the heli sideways.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJbNV_Ad3BQ&feature=related[/ame]
I just wanna add I had 8 amazing flights with my SK720 just now and tested the SL 200% from inverted and I find it slow still.
I am on 280 with the rates and 55% cyclic gain.
It takes half a second to turn the bird, and then I should add pitch...i dont know...
If I had the option to use extra pitch automatically, I would use it.

[heathy]

Ok. Put the control rates for the cyclic bank to max. No dual rates in radio. Now try again. What heli is this on?


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[Groucho_]

Originally Posted by ArguZ

tested the SL 200% from inverted and I find it slow still.

It takes half a second to turn the bird

Am I understanding you correctly?

Half a second to self level right-way-up from inverted and you find that slow?

Or have I misunderstood something?

[Luvmyhelis]

Originally Posted by Groucho_

Am I understanding you correctly?

Half a second to self level right-way-up from inverted and you find that slow?

Or have I misunderstood something?

Same here. Half a second is too slow? This is so violent it is close to breaking the blade roots.