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Old 01-18-2016, 09:26 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default 600 SX swash options

Well this is the third swash on this bird, any good aftermarket options? mikado's are a bit pricey. Can the main bearing be replaced?
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Old 01-18-2016, 10:04 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I hear that the Quick UK one is much better, will let someone confirm who has one.
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Old 01-18-2016, 10:59 AM   #3 (permalink)
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You can use the one from 690sx ..


I am using Lynx 600/690 swash without any issues
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Old 01-18-2016, 05:41 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Lynx swash has improved geometry and is also serviceable.


https://www.lynxheli.com/product_inf...eb3be7e167729e
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^^ that's interesting thanks.
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+1 on the Lynx. It's better than any Mikado swash I've owned by a long shot.
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Quick uk is good and pretty much equivalent to stock if you can find one (good luck), but I'm liking the 690 swash for the improved geometry, but modded to prevent separation in the cold. Haven't tried a lynx swash yet though.
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Old 01-19-2016, 05:44 AM   #8 (permalink)
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lynx swash side by side with the stock one:


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Wow! what adjustments are needed?
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While the 690sx and Lynx swash look similar the Lynx is not only serviceable but it also uses TWO radial bearings so it is actually much more precise than the Mikado swashplates. There is far less angular play between the inner and outer swash. As a result, the blades track much more precisely and the heli just runs smoother.
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Wow! what adjustments are needed?
only from swash to blade grip linkages had to be shortened slightly.
I feel no difference, and just bought the lynx version because it was cheaper than the new mikado 690 swash.
never needed any maintenance of bearing replacement so far... on any of my swashes.
what i know is that the stock swash break easily in crash.
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Looks like a tough cookie.. for the lynx one
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I'm convinced. That is one beefy looking assembly.
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Does the lynx swash fit the 550sx?
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If logo500,550,600,690 use the same stock swash, and lynx fits on 690. I think for 550sx able to fit..
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If logo500,550,600,690 use the same stock swash, and lynx fits on 690. I think for 550sx able to fit..
Ahh ok, so all those models use the same swash.

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LOGO 400, 400SE, 480XX, 550SX, 550SE, 600SX V1 and 600SE use the swash depicted above. It has an inner ball radius of 20mm.
This swash is limited to about 11.5° of cyclic at center collective and about 6° at 14° collective at standard servo ball distance. On 600 blades and above, you'll run out of cyclic on nose down walls etc. rather easily on this swash, for shorter blades it's fine.


LOGO 600SX V2 and 690SX V1&2 use a beefier swash with 24mm inner ball radius which eliminates the issue of running out of cyclic in very demanding maneuvers.
If I recall it correctly, I measured 15° cyclic at 0° collective and ~12° cyclic at 13° of collective on my 690, which suffices for pretty much any maneuver you can throw at it.
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Thanks for the info Johhny, thats very helpful.
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LOGO 600SX V2 and 690SX V1&2 use a beefier swash with 24mm inner ball radius which eliminates the issue of running out of cyclic in very demanding maneuvers.
If I recall it correctly, I measured 15° cyclic at 0° collective and ~12° cyclic at 13° of collective on my 690, which suffices for pretty much any maneuver you can throw at it.
I am giving the Lynx swash a go.
How much cyclic do you run with the 690 swash Jonas?

I've recently been fooling around with an E700 and the CGY and find it to really feel nice-( Can I say that here in the Logo forum?). So I hope to get the same feel and suspect possibly it may have more cyclic is why.
I read Kyle goes past 10 on his big heli's.
I figured I would try the Lynx flavor at maybe 9.5 or 10 cyclic instead of the standard 8.

Any suggestions?
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All the cyclic I can possibly get. You don't want to limit it.
As for the reference, 10° with blueline.
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