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04-07-2011, 08:21 PM | #21 (permalink) |
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if its not too much trouble for u u should do this for all the moves u know and put together a how to video raza!!! i think u would do quite well
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05-29-2011, 12:42 AM | #22 (permalink) |
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Thanks again for the wonderful videos
Hi RaZa,
Thanks for the wonderful explanations and videos! I pulled off my first mobius loops today at the flying field after watching your vid on Piro flips and many hours of Sim practice. Even if I never graduate to full piro flips, knowing these divided, half-piro flip transitions has added a great deal to my aerobatic flying skills. I only hope that someday I can make such helpful contributions to the Helifreak community. -Eric
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05-29-2011, 01:16 PM | #23 (permalink) |
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Hey Eric,
Thanks for the kind words. I'm glad it's helped. |
08-18-2011, 07:16 PM | #24 (permalink) |
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nice video with a good intruction.
do you a have a link to download the video? tq |
04-25-2012, 11:12 AM | #25 (permalink) |
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Happy to report that I've made leaps and bounds on half piro flips and finally started doing them in real life! I actually did my first with the mcpx, that made me a lot more confident about trying it with the 500 I need to work on cleaning them up and getting more consistent still, but a few times now I've shocked myself with completely dialed half piro flips with no hesitation between upright and inverted. This video definitely helped me out, thank you for making it available.
I'm having a lot of trouble trying to work up to full piro flips...I'm sure something will eventually click like it did for the half flips but for some reason I just can't find the right stir speed to get a full piro per half flip. It should be as easy as going twice as fast with half the radius right?
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04-25-2012, 11:34 AM | #26 (permalink) |
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I would worry less about how much to stir etc and concentrate on trying to feel the results of your stirring and how it is affecting the helis movements.
Eventually it will all CLICK and you are controlling the piro flip and not just "stirring" if that makes sense
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04-25-2012, 01:17 PM | #27 (permalink) |
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I get what you're saying, I think I'm starting to get the beginnings of that subconsciously with the half flips but I have a ways to go yet. It's all good though, I remember when I wondered if I'd ever be able to make coordinated turns without thinking about it. I've come a long way since then!
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04-29-2012, 07:27 AM | #28 (permalink) | |
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I second that, fly the heli through the maneuver not just stir . I have seen so many people trying to just force it through and crashing that it's not even funny.
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04-30-2012, 02:57 PM | #29 (permalink) |
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I'm apparently building some rep at the club, the other heli guys are inviting me to fly their stuff pretty frequently! I got to fly another members trex550 and 7HV and did some half piro flips on both of them, the move doesn't really scare me much at all at this point and I seem to understand it well enough to confidently perform on any machine
Now to just step up my game and get full piro flips...I've had a lucky one every once in a while on the sim, and that's how my half flips started out so I guess that's a good sign. Need to spend more time drilling inverted slow piros and then stopping it between the halves of the flip and doing a piro or two.
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04-30-2012, 03:02 PM | #30 (permalink) |
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work on half inverted to normal flips..
then work on entering and leaving at any time.. you will naturally join them
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04-30-2012, 03:08 PM | #31 (permalink) |
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When I say half piro flip I mean a full flip with a single piro rather than two...this terminology is confusing! Coming around the bottom is still a little harder than going over the top for me, but it's improving a lot as of late. For the most part it's consistent I just fall slightly out of sync occasionally.
One thing I've found myself able to do recently that I'm enjoying is changing the flipping axis between halves of the flip. Like doing a half piro half front flip to inverted and then doing a half piro half roll or back flip out of it, just starting another half circle from a different point rather than completing the stir all the way around to the top. Some of those come out looking very cool, I'll likely be able to play with those on my real heli before long!
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05-19-2012, 12:42 PM | #32 (permalink) |
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The videos don't work! But I've been jealously watching Alan szabos poor flips trying to figure out how to do a sloppy slower of those and your advice has greatly helped me understand
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05-19-2012, 10:56 PM | #33 (permalink) |
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They're just youtube videos. If you can't view them then there's something seriously wrong with your computer.
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05-23-2012, 12:32 PM | #34 (permalink) |
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I'm starting to get full piro flips every once in a while! Seeing the same feint signs of progress I did when half flips were starting to making sense. Good for my confidence!
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08-10-2012, 07:44 PM | #35 (permalink) |
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Thank you RaZa! Started working on what I thought I'd never get. Why didn't I find this sooner?!
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08-24-2012, 06:21 AM | #37 (permalink) |
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08-24-2012, 07:02 AM | #38 (permalink) |
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Try the video on post #14
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10-23-2012, 04:59 AM | #40 (permalink) |
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Can't get the disk flat enough
Hi Raza,
I've been following your how to videos and I must say I've learned a lot from those. thanks so much...I just have a problem though. I gotten down the half ones but when it comes to the full piroflips, I can do it but not to the way the disk is supposed to be. I can't seem to correct the disk being slanted or at an angle, instead of being flat so my flips are wider making the heli travel everywhere. How do you correct pirouetting a heli without making it loose its place? Any suggestion? I see Bert Kammerer stirring very very slightly to do this, but what is the trick exactly? How do you keep track of where you're going to move the stick to since the heli is pirouetting fast? When the heli is pirouetting to the left, do you correct it by stirring the cyclic very tiny wheeny also to the left or is it to the right to make it stay and flat? Any help would be much appreciated. I've been practicing in the sim so hard and I'm getting frustrated........ |
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