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Finless · 11-26-2008, 08:49 PM

AWESOME guys... Next heli on the video grill is the MSH Protos 500 heli.

I have had this in my shop for a month and DANG it's been beating on me to get started!
Big thanks to Corrado owner of MSH for supplying everything in the vid to get this build going! Oh and Corrado, sorry for the month delay!

So lets get on with it!

Video Link ->What's in the box and Manual Overview!! (38 Megs)

OK first step. So I decided that not knowing how accessible the servo arms are when the servos are mounted in the frames, I decided to put a step up front of step 1. Servo setup FIRST and then servo install per the manual. It turns out that you could do this later which I will show in full. This is Step 1A Servo Setup with the Radio...
Video Link ->Step 1A, Servo and Radio Setup (38 Megs)

Video Link ->Step 1B, Servo Install onto Main Bearing Blocks (28 Megs)

Video Link ->Step 2, Frame Assembly (62 Megs)

Video Link ->Step 3, Main Gear and Swash (56 Megs)

Video Link ->Step 4a, Washout Assembly (37 Megs)

Video Link ->Step 4b, Seesaw and Flybar Assembly (65 Megs)

Video Link ->Step 4c, Head and Main Grips (67 Megs)

Video Link ->Step 4d, Head Setup (37 Megs)

Video Link ->Step 5 Boom Assembly (46 Megs)

Video Link ->Step 6a Tail Case Assembly (44 Megs)

Video Link ->Step 6b Tail Slider & Hub Assembly (78 Megs)

Here is a new 101 video!
If your servo wires are too long you can shorten them easily but WHAT IF your wires are too short? Use an extension or extend the wires MY WAY. Folks this is NOT for the unskilled and YES you violate your warrenty! But this is how I do it:
Video Link -> Changing your Servo Wires! (42 Megs)

Video Link ->Step 7 Motor Install and Belt Adjustment (75 Megs)

Video Link ->Step 8 Electronics Install (75 Megs)

Video Link ->Step 9 Tail Supports and Landing Gear (39 Megs)

I am using the JR 770 gyro. For full setup see my JR 770 gyro setrup video here:
https://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=95258

Video Link ->Step 10 Tail Servo Setup using the JR770 (32 Megs)

Video Link ->Final build thoughts and stuff (24 Megs)

Flight Eval. This was my 3rd flight. Still taking it easy as I was still playing with the gyro settings and tail. I finally got it dialed in on the 4th flight. Gain is 20 on the gear channel travel adjust. In this video I had the gain a touch too low.
Video Link ->Flight Eval. This was my 3rd flight. (84 Megs)

Bob

brian94066 · 11-26-2008, 09:49 PM

nice!!!

are you going to do the CF frame upgrade review too?

Bobbyk · 11-26-2008, 09:54 PM

That looks like a nice heli, is it a 500 size?

Like the tree speech.

Robert

JustPlaneChris · 11-26-2008, 11:14 PM

It's a "425" size, since it uses 425mm blades.

But yes, in Align-speak, it's a "500".
(Curse Align for saddling us with meaningless naming conventions!)

Can't wait to see the rest of the vids, Bob! I think you're gonna dig the Protos.

ayash · 11-27-2008, 04:31 AM

It would be really great if you could also compare along the way and at the end as far as flight is concerned the Protos with the TRex 500 from various aspects.

Both for beginners and experienced flyers.

ayash · 11-27-2008, 04:34 AM

Technical point - if you can name the files with a number prefix that would show the order of the movies it would be convinient for people who download the whole series.

You have done that already in one of the heli builds and it proved to be a good approach.

Antony Konnarides · 11-27-2008, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustPlaneChris

It's a "425" size, since it uses 425mm blades.

But yes, in Align-speak, it's a "500".
(Curse Align for saddling us with meaningless naming conventions!)

Can't wait to see the rest of the vids, Bob! I think you're gonna dig the Protos.

Actually Align and many other manufacturers size their heli by the motor.
Eg. Trex 500 = 500L motor
Trex 600 = 600L motor etc. etc.

ping · 11-27-2008, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antony Konnarides

Actually Align and many other manufacturers size their heli by the motor.
Eg. Trex 500 = 500L motor
Trex 600 = 600L motor etc. etc.

Which is a "standard" they pulled straight out of thin air. The old Graupner brushed motor classes don't even come close to the sizes of those motors. The original trex 450 was indeed a "450" class brushless motor at the time. However the 500 and 600 sized motors are totally off.

worldofmaya · 11-27-2008, 01:12 PM

Great to see you've a look at this heli! I think it has some nice features and the right weight for 425mm size blades... others are way too heavy. Anyway, can't wait to to hear your conclusion! And once more thanks for those videos and greetings @ Bob!
-klaus

EricW · 11-27-2008, 01:30 PM

Great to see these build videos Bob, really looking forward!

Hulley · 11-27-2008, 04:19 PM

Great, build videos on the "other" electric that I want! Now I'll have to have this one too!

Finless · 11-27-2008, 05:28 PM

I shot a BUNCH of video today.... I will have it up tonight for you all to enjoy on your day off tomorrow

Bob

mapleleafs · 11-27-2008, 05:38 PM

my knees are shaking i am so excited.....

TheBum · 11-27-2008, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayash

It would be really great if you could also compare along the way and at the end as far as flight is concerned the Protos with the TRex 500 from various aspects.

Both for beginners and experienced flyers.

I'd also like to see a comparison against the Atom 500. Right now, the Atom is the top pick for my next heli, but I could be convinced otherwise.

Finless · 11-27-2008, 06:52 PM

OK 3 videos added! See the first post in this thread for the links!

Going to dinner now have FUN!

Bob

Hulley · 11-27-2008, 06:56 PM

I had a hard time choosing between the Atom and the Protos, I chose the Atom because I heard the Protos was kinda fragile. After seeing the Protos in person last weekend I think I'm gonna get one! Dont get me wrong, there are several things I personally liked better on the Atom, but there are things I liked better on the Protos as well. I think the Protos looks better but I think the Atom is built stronger. So I think I'm just gonna have to get both!

TheBum · 11-27-2008, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hulley

I had a hard time choosing between the Atom and the Protos, I chose the Atom because I heard the Protos was kinda fragile.

I have the same conundrum. However, I only want one 500 size in my fleet (mainly for traveling), so I'll have to pick one.

TheBum · 11-27-2008, 07:20 PM

Bob: The URLs for 1A and 1B links are the same, hence they download the same video.

Finless · 11-27-2008, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBum

Bob: The URLs for 1A and 1B links are the same, hence they download the same video.

Ooops..... sorry link fixed!

Bob

mapleleafs · 11-27-2008, 08:32 PM

thanks a lot Bob.....

11-26-2008, 08:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
Finless Team Taco VP My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2005	MSH Protos Build Videos! AWESOME guys... Next heli on the video grill is the MSH Protos 500 heli. I have had this in my shop for a month and DANG it's been beating on me to get started! Big thanks to Corrado owner of MSH for supplying everything in the vid to get this build going! Oh and Corrado, sorry for the month delay! So lets get on with it! Video Link ->What's in the box and Manual Overview!! (38 Megs) OK first step. So I decided that not knowing how accessible the servo arms are when the servos are mounted in the frames, I decided to put a step up front of step 1. Servo setup FIRST and then servo install per the manual. It turns out that you could do this later which I will show in full. This is Step 1A Servo Setup with the Radio... Video Link ->Step 1A, Servo and Radio Setup (38 Megs) Video Link ->Step 1B, Servo Install onto Main Bearing Blocks (28 Megs) Video Link ->Step 2, Frame Assembly (62 Megs) Video Link ->Step 3, Main Gear and Swash (56 Megs) Video Link ->Step 4a, Washout Assembly (37 Megs) Video Link ->Step 4b, Seesaw and Flybar Assembly (65 Megs) Video Link ->Step 4c, Head and Main Grips (67 Megs) Video Link ->Step 4d, Head Setup (37 Megs) Video Link ->Step 5 Boom Assembly (46 Megs) Video Link ->Step 6a Tail Case Assembly (44 Megs) Video Link ->Step 6b Tail Slider & Hub Assembly (78 Megs) Here is a new 101 video! If your servo wires are too long you can shorten them easily but WHAT IF your wires are too short? Use an extension or extend the wires MY WAY. Folks this is NOT for the unskilled and YES you violate your warrenty! But this is how I do it: Video Link -> Changing your Servo Wires! (42 Megs) Video Link ->Step 7 Motor Install and Belt Adjustment (75 Megs) Video Link ->Step 8 Electronics Install (75 Megs) Video Link ->Step 9 Tail Supports and Landing Gear (39 Megs) I am using the JR 770 gyro. For full setup see my JR 770 gyro setrup video here: https://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=95258 Video Link ->Step 10 Tail Servo Setup using the JR770 (32 Megs) Video Link ->Final build thoughts and stuff (24 Megs) Flight Eval. This was my 3rd flight. Still taking it easy as I was still playing with the gyro settings and tail. I finally got it dialed in on the 4th flight. Gain is 20 on the gear channel travel adjust. In this video I had the gain a touch too low. Video Link ->Flight Eval. This was my 3rd flight. (84 Megs) Bob __________________ "Don't Taco My Pack Dude!" NEW Video Link -> Safety Video #1 Video Link -> CAUTION using powerful tools! Video Link -> How to CRASH TWICE in one flight! Video Link -> Don't Taco! Last edited by Skiddz; 11-10-2019 at 01:11 PM.. Reason: "Fixed" video links

11-26-2008, 09:49 PM	#2 (permalink)
brian94066 Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2007	nice!!! are you going to do the CF frame upgrade review too? __________________

11-26-2008, 09:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
Bobbyk Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2007	That looks like a nice heli, is it a 500 size? Like the tree speech. Robert __________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ <<< Ashlyn, daddy loves you more than his heli's, don't mind mummy >>> <<< ..............MA Spectra G (Supporting Made in USA), DX7.............. >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

11-26-2008, 11:14 PM	#4 (permalink)
JustPlaneChris Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Temple, TX	It's a "425" size, since it uses 425mm blades. But yes, in Align-speak, it's a "500". (Curse Align for saddling us with meaningless naming conventions!) Can't wait to see the rest of the vids, Bob! I think you're gonna dig the Protos. __________________ Chris Boultinghouse

11-27-2008, 01:12 PM	#9 (permalink)
worldofmaya Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jun 2007	Great to see you've a look at this heli! I think it has some nice features and the right weight for 425mm size blades... others are way too heavy. Anyway, can't wait to to hear your conclusion! And once more thanks for those videos and greetings @ Bob! -klaus __________________ SuziLAOS-DNHP-CenturioMax-Protos500-Logo400-500-600SE

11-27-2008, 04:31 AM	#5 (permalink)
ayash Registered Users Join Date: Jul 2008	It would be really great if you could also compare along the way and at the end as far as flight is concerned the Protos with the TRex 500 from various aspects. Both for beginners and experienced flyers.

11-27-2008, 04:34 AM	#6 (permalink)
ayash Registered Users Join Date: Jul 2008	Technical point - if you can name the files with a number prefix that would show the order of the movies it would be convinient for people who download the whole series. You have done that already in one of the heli builds and it proved to be a good approach.

11-27-2008, 01:30 PM	#10 (permalink)
EricW Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2007	Great to see these build videos Bob, really looking forward! __________________ One day I got stung, and now I love rotor sounds...Team RIGIDHELI.COM T-Rex 700N Pro, Compass 7HV ult., MSH PRÔTOS

11-27-2008, 04:19 PM	#11 (permalink)
Hulley Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2004	Great, build videos on the "other" electric that I want! Now I'll have to have this one too! Last edited by Hulley; 11-27-2008 at 05:56 PM.. Reason: spelling

11-27-2008, 05:28 PM	#12 (permalink)
Finless Team Taco VP Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2005	I shot a BUNCH of video today.... I will have it up tonight for you all to enjoy on your day off tomorrow Bob __________________ "Don't Taco My Pack Dude!" NEW Video Link -> Safety Video #1 Video Link -> CAUTION using powerful tools! Video Link -> How to CRASH TWICE in one flight! Video Link -> Don't Taco!

11-27-2008, 05:38 PM	#13 (permalink)
mapleleafs Registered Users Join Date: Jul 2007	my knees are shaking i am so excited.....

11-27-2008, 06:52 PM	#15 (permalink)
Finless Team Taco VP Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2005	OK 3 videos added! See the first post in this thread for the links! Going to dinner now have FUN! Bob __________________ "Don't Taco My Pack Dude!" NEW Video Link -> Safety Video #1 Video Link -> CAUTION using powerful tools! Video Link -> How to CRASH TWICE in one flight! Video Link -> Don't Taco!

11-27-2008, 06:56 PM	#16 (permalink)
Hulley Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2004	I had a hard time choosing between the Atom and the Protos, I chose the Atom because I heard the Protos was kinda fragile. After seeing the Protos in person last weekend I think I'm gonna get one! Dont get me wrong, there are several things I personally liked better on the Atom, but there are things I liked better on the Protos as well. I think the Protos looks better but I think the Atom is built stronger. So I think I'm just gonna have to get both!

11-27-2008, 07:20 PM	#18 (permalink)
TheBum HF Support My HF Map location Join Date: Jul 2007	Bob: The URLs for 1A and 1B links are the same, hence they download the same video. __________________ Alan (just call me "Bum"; no need to be so formal) HeliFreak Support Protos Max Evo 700 (Brain 2), Protos Max V2 770 (iKON 2), Synergy 516 (Brain 2), Oxy 2 (Falcon 12) Graupner MZ-32 Experience is something you gain only after you need it. I wouldn't mind social media so much if it didn't involve people.

11-27-2008, 08:32 PM	#20 (permalink)
mapleleafs Registered Users Join Date: Jul 2007	thanks a lot Bob.....

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