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Diggiz · 02-06-2015, 04:15 PM

So last night I decided to revive the Bee v2.
I spectrumized it with my dx6i. But Im not sure on what settings in the dx6 i for the tail.
Is it just reversing the rud channel, Which actually does nothing?
Everything else works but the tail just continually drifts left, not matter how much I adjust pots. But mainly moving rudder on tx left or right doesn't increase tail speed at all. So makes me think Im missing something in dx6i or tail motor is only half working.
Im using cp3 motor tail and prop

Any ideas guys?

boykintom · 02-11-2015, 06:13 AM

Dig,

Are you using the CP3 3 in 1, also? I use that with an Orange Spektrum rx, and I plug the throttle lead into the aux channel and run it with a linear throttle and pitch curve. The rudder lead is plugged into the rudder channel like normal. I use the CP3 main and tail motors and this setup works well.

Chipped Rotor · 09-11-2015, 08:12 PM

Hello guys. Boykintom I'm working on one of these for a friend. I've got the basic parts I think: heli, main & tail motors, servos, gyro, rx. I don't have a CP3 3n1. I would like to copy your set-up if it's not too much trouble. As much info as you could provide would be very helpful. Thanks.

spoonerrw · 10-03-2015, 10:46 PM

I have three of these set up to a dx6i, just like BKT's... actually it was BKT who helped me do my first one

. it has been ages since I messed with mine, but if I remember right, and don't hold me to this... I think I had to flip the lead from the motor where it plugs in to the esc from the way the original motor plugged in to it because the direct drive cp3 motor spins in the opposite direction from the original geared motor set up... I think?

boykintom · 10-06-2015, 11:42 AM

Sorry, I haven't been on here in a long time, and I just saw the question. I'll try to post details tonight.

Chipped Rotor · 10-07-2015, 12:57 AM

Okay thanks boykintom.

boykintom · 10-09-2015, 04:50 PM

My pics are too big to post at the moment, but please see the one in the earlier post. I use the Super 370 CP3 main motor, the CP3 3 in 1, the CP3 tail motor and the rotor that goes with it. You do have to reverse the direction on the tail motor opposite the way the stock rotor turns. You plug the tail motor wire from the esc into the rudder channel. The main motor connection from the esc plugs into the AUX channel and you have set up a linear pitch curve for it, not sure exactly why, but that is how it works. Use a 3 amp fuse for the tail and a 7.5 amp fuse for the main motor or you risk burning out the 3 in 1. I like the Orange Spektrum rx and have never had trouble with it, but I'm sure plenty of others will work too.

spoonerrw · 10-09-2015, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boykintom

The main motor connection from the esc plugs into the AUX channel and you have set up a linear pitch curve for it, not sure exactly why, but that is how it works.

someone over in the heliguy forum ran an oscilloscope a few years back and discovered that the signal gap that calculates the tail rpm from the main motor to counter the torque, is in a different spot on the esky units, versus the orange and spektrum ones. because of this, plugging the main motor in to the correct spot on the receiver doesn't work, but he found that it did work when used on the AUX channel. the only thing you will lose using this channel is the throttle trim, so just be aware that when you move the stick up... it will immediately start based on the linear curve, but it is a small trade off for what you will gain

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boykintom · 10-10-2015, 08:20 AM

Spoonerrw,

Good explanation, I had never heard that but it makes sense. Fortunately the headspeed on the Bee is so low that even with it starting to spool up instantly, it still requires a good bit more throttle to actually get off the ground, even with the Super 370, as of course, you know.

spoonerrw · 10-10-2015, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boykintom

Spoonerrw,

Good explanation, I had never heard that but it makes sense. Fortunately the headspeed on the Bee is so low that even with it starting to spool up instantly, it still requires a good bit more throttle to actually get off the ground, even with the Super 370, as of course, you know.

yes, lol... they definitely take a lot of stick and I never used the throttle trim anyway. this conversion is a definite improvement where response and power goes... well worth doing

.
I think I will work a flight in tomorrow with my custom Stinger Bee tomorrow... just to see if I can even still fly one, hahaha

.

boykintom · 10-10-2015, 08:42 AM

Pics of my setup:

Chipped Rotor · 10-22-2015, 08:55 PM

Thanks guys, I have not checked this thread in a while, but it looks like you guys answered all of my questions.

02-06-2015, 04:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
Diggiz Registered Users Join Date: Jul 2011	Revived the Bee So last night I decided to revive the Bee v2. I spectrumized it with my dx6i. But Im not sure on what settings in the dx6 i for the tail. Is it just reversing the rud channel, Which actually does nothing? Everything else works but the tail just continually drifts left, not matter how much I adjust pots. But mainly moving rudder on tx left or right doesn't increase tail speed at all. So makes me think Im missing something in dx6i or tail motor is only half working. Im using cp3 motor tail and prop Any ideas guys? __________________ Assualt 700 Align DomL 500 Align 470lp Dx9 Fly like there's no limits !

09-11-2015, 08:12 PM	#3 (permalink)
Chipped Rotor Registered Users Join Date: Oct 2006	Revived the Bee Hello guys. Boykintom I'm working on one of these for a friend. I've got the basic parts I think: heli, main & tail motors, servos, gyro, rx. I don't have a CP3 3n1. I would like to copy your set-up if it's not too much trouble. As much info as you could provide would be very helpful. Thanks.

10-03-2015, 10:46 PM	#4 (permalink)
spoonerrw Registered Users Join Date: May 2012	I have three of these set up to a dx6i, just like BKT's... actually it was BKT who helped me do my first one . it has been ages since I messed with mine, but if I remember right, and don't hold me to this... I think I had to flip the lead from the motor where it plugs in to the esc from the way the original motor plugged in to it because the direct drive cp3 motor spins in the opposite direction from the original geared motor set up... I think? __________________ "What goes up, will come down... sometimes, painfully."

10-10-2015, 08:42 AM	#11 (permalink)
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02-11-2015, 06:13 AM	#2 (permalink)
boykintom Registered Users Join Date: Nov 2011	Dig, Are you using the CP3 3 in 1, also? I use that with an Orange Spektrum rx, and I plug the throttle lead into the aux channel and run it with a linear throttle and pitch curve. The rudder lead is plugged into the rudder channel like normal. I use the CP3 main and tail motors and this setup works well.

10-06-2015, 11:42 AM	#5 (permalink)
boykintom Registered Users Join Date: Nov 2011	Sorry, I haven't been on here in a long time, and I just saw the question. I'll try to post details tonight.

10-07-2015, 12:57 AM	#6 (permalink)
Chipped Rotor Registered Users Join Date: Oct 2006	Okay thanks boykintom.

10-09-2015, 04:50 PM	#7 (permalink)
boykintom Registered Users Join Date: Nov 2011	My pics are too big to post at the moment, but please see the one in the earlier post. I use the Super 370 CP3 main motor, the CP3 3 in 1, the CP3 tail motor and the rotor that goes with it. You do have to reverse the direction on the tail motor opposite the way the stock rotor turns. You plug the tail motor wire from the esc into the rudder channel. The main motor connection from the esc plugs into the AUX channel and you have set up a linear pitch curve for it, not sure exactly why, but that is how it works. Use a 3 amp fuse for the tail and a 7.5 amp fuse for the main motor or you risk burning out the 3 in 1. I like the Orange Spektrum rx and have never had trouble with it, but I'm sure plenty of others will work too.

10-10-2015, 08:20 AM	#9 (permalink)
boykintom Registered Users Join Date: Nov 2011	Spoonerrw, Good explanation, I had never heard that but it makes sense. Fortunately the headspeed on the Bee is so low that even with it starting to spool up instantly, it still requires a good bit more throttle to actually get off the ground, even with the Super 370, as of course, you know.

10-22-2015, 08:55 PM	#12 (permalink)
Chipped Rotor Registered Users Join Date: Oct 2006	Thanks guys, I have not checked this thread in a while, but it looks like you guys answered all of my questions.

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