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Troy003 · 03-09-2014, 06:28 PM

Finally got some weather above 30 degrees here in Chicago and had a chance to test out my warp 360. This heli is super quiet! I acquired this heli in a trade for my Dominator 450. Intitial thoughts are much more of a presence in the air. Not so much of a smack the sticks around crazy power like the Dominator, but a bit smoother and flies like a bigger heli.

So Ive set up endpoints on my CC Phoenix 50 and will need to program governor mode. What heads speeds are you guys running? I have the stock motor so I believe its a 8 pole count if im correct? Also main gear is 135T and stock pinion is..... Well any help is appreciated.

Thanks,

Troy

Bob O · 03-09-2014, 07:01 PM

16T stock pinion.

I'm running 18T with the stock motor, 2700, 2900, and 3100 Set RPM Gov.

Timing Low, Pwm 8, Gain 20. It holds decently.

With the 16T, you might be able to squeeze out 3,000 RPM with the Castle Gov, but if I recall you will be in the red. Depending upon your flying style this may or may not pose a problem.

Tachead · 03-09-2014, 07:14 PM

I'm running on the Skookum governor with the 17 tooth pinion. 2400,2800,3200rpm.

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Troy003 · 03-09-2014, 07:17 PM

Thanks for the info Bob O. Did you set the gear ratio or use pinion and main gear count when putting in your info? I think I read somewhere in the forums that gear ration is 8.43? Also can someone please verify the main gear count is 135T? Regarding 3000 hs I was just putting in some numbers and if I went over 3000 I would get the red warning that my HS was too high.

Troy

Tachead · 03-09-2014, 07:25 PM

Yes, the main gear is 135 tooth. I would recommend putting a 17 or 18 tooth pinion on for running at higher rpm governed. Get yourself Mr Mels head speed app to figure out what pinion to run for your desired head speed too. It's a great app. There is also a website tool if you don't do apps.

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Bob O · 03-09-2014, 07:33 PM

Troy,

I always put the main gear and pinion count in there and let it figure out the gear ratio. But yes, it is 8.43:1 for stock motor and pinion.

I can't remember exactly my startup power, spool up speed, and head speed change rate settings. But the best I can recall is I'm about 80% on startup power, spool up speed is a custom value below medium but above low, and head speed change rate is below fast but above medium, as I have auto rotate enabled.

Troy003 · 03-09-2014, 08:01 PM

Great guys. Thanks for your help. I will start messing around with some different headspeeds/settings. Flew about 5 packs today. Still getting the feel for the warp but Im liking it a lot so far. At the moment im running a Castle Phoenix 50 amp at 6V with no external BEC. The previous owner never had any issues with the internal BEC but I am thinking to be on a safe side I might throw one on. Looking at the Gryphon Polaris for some added security. However I was pushing it a bit on the last 2 packs and everything was smooth and felt both the cyclics and tail servo after I landed (mks 92a's cyclic and KST ds215mg tail) and both were cool to the touch and performed well.

waxman · 03-09-2014, 08:14 PM

The castle ESC is a bit like using a crappy version of gov store on YGE, YGE actually works out the voltage available then it will try and hold the set RPM no matter what the pack or charge level(start voltage)

Castle assume your pack is 3.7v this is a load of shit the pack will never get that low. What a lot of people have been doing is changing the pack voltage in the software to 3.875v per cell so for 6s the wizard pre sets the voltage to 22.2v you need to change this to 23.25v then use a lower governor gain start with something like 6.

You will get better results and more headspeed without having to change pinion. The stock pinion can run some very high headspeeds using a YGE esc in gov mode (not gov stor) so there is no reason why the Castle esc cant work the same.

Swedishe · 03-10-2014, 09:43 AM

Waxman,

Can you clarify a little more? I am looking for higher head speeds out of my castle governor and stock pinion.

All I need to do is change the pack voltage to 23.25?

waxman · 03-10-2014, 02:05 PM

Yep that is it no need to re gear.

There is a thread on archeli about this.
http://www.archeli.com.au/forums/sho...d.php?t=164328

Troy003 · 03-11-2014, 12:27 AM

Interesting work around Waxman. Ill take a look into it.

03-09-2014, 06:28 PM	#1 (permalink)
Troy003 Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2011	Whos running governor on the 360? Finally got some weather above 30 degrees here in Chicago and had a chance to test out my warp 360. This heli is super quiet! I acquired this heli in a trade for my Dominator 450. Intitial thoughts are much more of a presence in the air. Not so much of a smack the sticks around crazy power like the Dominator, but a bit smoother and flies like a bigger heli. So Ive set up endpoints on my CC Phoenix 50 and will need to program governor mode. What heads speeds are you guys running? I have the stock motor so I believe its a 8 pole count if im correct? Also main gear is 135T and stock pinion is..... Well any help is appreciated. Thanks, Troy __________________ While driving my girlfriend always asks "Wait, this looks like we're on the way to the hobbystore"...I casually change the subject. Ive been winning this game since 2009.

03-09-2014, 07:01 PM	#2 (permalink)
Bob O Member My HF Map location Join Date: Dec 2008	16T stock pinion. I'm running 18T with the stock motor, 2700, 2900, and 3100 Set RPM Gov. Timing Low, Pwm 8, Gain 20. It holds decently. With the 16T, you might be able to squeeze out 3,000 RPM with the Castle Gov, but if I recall you will be in the red. Depending upon your flying style this may or may not pose a problem. __________________ ):>

03-09-2014, 07:14 PM	#3 (permalink)
Tachead Registered Users Join Date: Jul 2012	Re: Whos running governor on the 360? I'm running on the Skookum governor with the 17 tooth pinion. 2400,2800,3200rpm. Sent from my SGH-I337M using Tapatalk Last edited by Tachead; 03-10-2014 at 04:33 AM..

03-09-2014, 07:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
Troy003 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Dec 2011	Thanks for the info Bob O. Did you set the gear ratio or use pinion and main gear count when putting in your info? I think I read somewhere in the forums that gear ration is 8.43? Also can someone please verify the main gear count is 135T? Regarding 3000 hs I was just putting in some numbers and if I went over 3000 I would get the red warning that my HS was too high. Troy __________________ While driving my girlfriend always asks "Wait, this looks like we're on the way to the hobbystore"...I casually change the subject. Ive been winning this game since 2009.

03-09-2014, 07:25 PM	#5 (permalink)
Tachead Registered Users Join Date: Jul 2012	Re: Whos running governor on the 360? Yes, the main gear is 135 tooth. I would recommend putting a 17 or 18 tooth pinion on for running at higher rpm governed. Get yourself Mr Mels head speed app to figure out what pinion to run for your desired head speed too. It's a great app. There is also a website tool if you don't do apps. Sent from my SGH-I337M using Tapatalk

03-09-2014, 07:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
Bob O Member My HF Map location Join Date: Dec 2008	Troy, I always put the main gear and pinion count in there and let it figure out the gear ratio. But yes, it is 8.43:1 for stock motor and pinion. I can't remember exactly my startup power, spool up speed, and head speed change rate settings. But the best I can recall is I'm about 80% on startup power, spool up speed is a custom value below medium but above low, and head speed change rate is below fast but above medium, as I have auto rotate enabled. __________________ ):>

03-09-2014, 08:01 PM	#7 (permalink)
Troy003 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Dec 2011	Great guys. Thanks for your help. I will start messing around with some different headspeeds/settings. Flew about 5 packs today. Still getting the feel for the warp but Im liking it a lot so far. At the moment im running a Castle Phoenix 50 amp at 6V with no external BEC. The previous owner never had any issues with the internal BEC but I am thinking to be on a safe side I might throw one on. Looking at the Gryphon Polaris for some added security. However I was pushing it a bit on the last 2 packs and everything was smooth and felt both the cyclics and tail servo after I landed (mks 92a's cyclic and KST ds215mg tail) and both were cool to the touch and performed well. __________________ While driving my girlfriend always asks "Wait, this looks like we're on the way to the hobbystore"...I casually change the subject. Ive been winning this game since 2009.

03-09-2014, 08:14 PM	#8 (permalink)
waxman Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2009	The castle ESC is a bit like using a crappy version of gov store on YGE, YGE actually works out the voltage available then it will try and hold the set RPM no matter what the pack or charge level(start voltage) Castle assume your pack is 3.7v this is a load of shit the pack will never get that low. What a lot of people have been doing is changing the pack voltage in the software to 3.875v per cell so for 6s the wizard pre sets the voltage to 22.2v you need to change this to 23.25v then use a lower governor gain start with something like 6. You will get better results and more headspeed without having to change pinion. The stock pinion can run some very high headspeeds using a YGE esc in gov mode (not gov stor) so there is no reason why the Castle esc cant work the same.

03-10-2014, 09:43 AM	#9 (permalink)
Swedishe Registered Users Join Date: May 2012	Waxman, Can you clarify a little more? I am looking for higher head speeds out of my castle governor and stock pinion. All I need to do is change the pack voltage to 23.25? __________________ Parkzone Visionaire / T-28 Trojan / Icon A5 / UMX sbache mCPX V2 / mCPX BL / Nano QX / UMX Extra 550e FBL (BeastX) / Compass 7HV (AR7200) / Warp 360 "Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things"

03-10-2014, 02:05 PM	#10 (permalink)
waxman Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2009	Yep that is it no need to re gear. There is a thread on archeli about this. http://www.archeli.com.au/forums/sho...d.php?t=164328

03-11-2014, 12:27 AM	#11 (permalink)
Troy003 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Dec 2011	Interesting work around Waxman. Ill take a look into it. __________________ While driving my girlfriend always asks "Wait, this looks like we're on the way to the hobbystore"...I casually change the subject. Ive been winning this game since 2009.

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