Castle HV80 Setup In 600 Pro

[BlackTitanium]

Originally Posted by byter182

Hey Guys,

Just setup my 600 EFL Pro for governed mode w/Auto Enabled for the first time. I think I got everything working the way it's supposed to but I elected head speeds of:

Normal: 1900 w/30% TC
IU 1: 2000 w/70% TC
IU2: 2100 w/85% TC

Are the THRO Curves supposed to remain fixed at the 30/70/100 or are you supposed to tweak them until you achieve the desired headspeeds?

No, you don't tweak the throttle curve values. You simply set what RPM you want to run.
1-30, 31-70, 71-100 it what the ESC looks for.

The 30, 70, 100, are trigger points, so that the ESC know what Set RPM you want governed.

You can even reverse the order, i.e.:
Normal: 2100 w/100% TC
IU 1: 2000 w/70% TC
IU2: 1900 w/30% TC

Or you can even set them all the same, i.e.:
Normal: 2100 w/100% TC
IU 1: 2100 w/100% TC
IU2: 2100 w/100% TC

[byter182]

Thank you Black for the quick reply. Wasn't sure because it seems that when I go from Nornal at 1900 (which sounds really slow) to IU1 at 2000, the headspeed sounds like it's making a huge jump. I guess that's what it's suppose do do. Haven't tried it yet in the air. Hands are shaking. I still have the bird on the bench w/the rotors off. So no need to tach? The headspeeds I selected is what the Controller's gonna give me.

Thanks for clearing that up.

[BlackTitanium]

@ byter182 - You're welcome! No need to tach, that's the beauty of the CC ESC.

[kyle 9]

Hey guys! I'm just wondering if anyone's having problems with versio 4.0? Something to do with the low voltage cutoff? Also if I used the castle creations settings for align helidirect thats on their website... Will it work if I use them exactly and just change the 12 PWM to 8 PWM? Is there a huge difference in temp between the two? And does it change flight time/power?

Thanks!

[magbarn]

Originally Posted by Trailryder42

Has anyone ever lowered the start power from the default 59?

I'm wanting to set the ESC for a realistic, scale like start up. I'm guessing the initial spool up rate and the start power setting work hand in hand.

Default spool up rate is 5. I currently have set at 3. If you went even lower, could you also decrease start power from the default 59 without ill effects to the ESC?

Oops, I should probably have asked this in the Castle forum.

I know I'm being a little paranoid, but you my not want to do that. If you log your data, the voltage ripple is at it's worst during startup. According to castle reps, the ripple is what's damaging the caps and eventually causes the esc to self destruct. O by prolonging the startup, your prolonging the time the caps are being eposed to the ripple.


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[sebsmash]

Hey guys,
I am having an issue with my heli that when I try and fly it at 2350rpm the motor pulses.
do I have my cutoff set to high? I used the recommended castle settings

[Trailryder42]

Originally Posted by magbarn

If you log your data, the voltage ripple is at it's worst during startup. According to castle reps, the ripple is what's damaging the caps and eventually causes the esc to self destruct

I'll check ripple for both the default 59 and the lower settings. Thanks for the heads up.

[Trailryder42]

Originally Posted by sebsmash

Hey guys,
I am having an issue with my heli that when I try and fly it at 2350rpm the motor pulses.
do I have my cutoff set to high? I used the recommended castle settings

2350 governed? At what throttle %

[sebsmash]

Governed at 100 flat

[BlackTitanium]

Originally Posted by sebsmash

Hey guys,
I am having an issue with my heli that when I try and fly it at 2350rpm the motor pulses.
do I have my cutoff set to high? I used the recommended castle settings

Try lowering your governor gain to 11.

[celltech]

What settings should I use for a DX6i? Everything seems to mention having a 3 position switch but I only have 2. I want to spool up, takeoff and land in normal mode. Thanks

[I3DM]

I just set up my new 600EFL Pro DFC and the new CC ESC software i set 2100, 2200 and 2245.

But the software is telling me that all of these RPM's are with about 60-67% throttle curve, so where did you guys come up with 30%/70%/100% method ?

thanks.

[BlackTitanium]

Originally Posted by I3DM

I just set up my new 600EFL Pro DFC and the new CC ESC software i set 2100, 2200 and 2245.

But the software is telling me that all of these RPM's are with about 60-67% throttle curve, so where did you guys come up with 30%/70%/100% method ?

thanks.

The CC Governor Mode "Set RPM" allows you to program up to three governed head speeds, using the idle up switch. The Set RPM is triggered by a flat throttle curve, at 30%, 70% and 100%. 1-30, 31-70, 71-100 is what the ESC looks for.

The 30, 70, 100, are trigger points, so that the ESC knows what Set RPM you want governed.

You simply set what RPM you want to run.
For example, 2000rpm for Normal (30%), 2100 rpm for Idle1 (70%), 2200rpm for Idle2 (100%).

You can even reverse the order, i.e.:
Normal: 2100 w/100% TC
IU 1: 2000 w/70% TC
IU2: 1900 w/30% TC

Or you can even set them all the same, i.e.:
Normal: 2100 w/100% TC
IU 1: 2100 w/100% TC
IU2: 2100 w/100% TC

Note: You will need to use 102-106mm (700 size) tail blades for Set RPM governor mode.
The stock tail blades are for head speeds that 2350 rpm and higher!

See the Castle Creations 600EFL setup guide here:
http://www.castlecreations.com/suppo...lign600efl.pdf

[leex70]

I dont understand how most of you guys want to bail out of an auto with a headspeed chnge rate of 8 ?? You shouls set that to 17 or 18..
Just my 2 cents

Also dont forget to properly set (calibrate) your throttle hold value in your transmitter.

You aint there just by checking the "auto enable" box

[I3DM]

Are the CC default Trex 600 Pro values good for bailing out of an auto ?
they recommend head speed change rate 19.

also will this machine take 105mm tail blades in stock form without hitting the mains ?

one last question - whats the PN of the 700 skids that some are using on the rear of the frame to put the tail slightly higher ?

[BlackTitanium]

Are the CC default Trex 600 Pro values good for bailing out of an auto ?
they recommend head speed change rate 19.
Yes

also will this machine take 105mm tail blades in stock form without hitting the mains ?
Yes

one last question - whats the PN of the 700 skids that some are using on the rear of the frame to put the tail slightly higher ?
H70059

[Emurzion]

What temp are you guys pulling off of your logs?

I was flying this weekend at 80-85 degrees and my logs say that the highest I reached was 132 degrees.

[HFMan]

When flying 85-95 ambient, my Castle has reported as high as 158F. That's when doing close in 3d, not a lot of speed.

[ranchhand]

Can auto rotation be used with a DX6i? Right now I'm using normal mode as a strait throttle curve of 30% and stunt at 70%. 2000 and 2100 rpm, in govenor mode, set rpm. I haven't set one at 100% yet because I've never flown a flybarless heli let alone a 600 and don't know what to expect, although 200 rpm between 30% an 100% probably won't matter if something goes wrong.
Now when I plug in the esc I have to have it at the 70% or idle up with the throttle hold off, as soon as I put throttle hold on the esc arms it's self, the I can put it in any position ( normal or stunt ) turn off the throttle hold and it will soft start.
The only videos I've seen on setting up the esc, they were using a tx with three channels for idle curves. I watched the castle link video on their site, but it's still not that clear to me.

[davehour]

Originally Posted by leex70

I dont understand how most of you guys want to bail out of an auto with a headspeed chnge rate of 8 ?? You shouls set that to 17 or 18..
Just my 2 cents

Also dont forget to properly set (calibrate) your throttle hold value in your transmitter.

You aint there just by checking the "auto enable" box

I'm using Castle v3.27. I find the spool up rate when bailing from an auto to slow, but the headspeed change rate between flight modes is ok. Is the headspeed change rate the one to change to speed up the spool up rate when bailing from an auto too?

Thanks.

David