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Old 11-15-2009, 08:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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i have two aircraft g23's can i convert them and use then it a heli,they have rear fly wheel and mags.i would like to put one in a pantera project. if so what would i need to change
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Old 11-16-2009, 08:41 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Remove the prop adapter.

If you want a pull start, then you remove the nut over the flywheel and install a pull start dawg , adapter plate, and pull start.

If you want the heli airfilter, then add that step in as well.

The carburetors are slightly different, but yours will work just fine.

The primary coil is on the airplane engine is gray, the heli is red, either will work just fine in a heli.

The engine itself is identical to the heli version, with these minor accesory differences.
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Old 11-16-2009, 04:10 PM   #3 (permalink)
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thanks Chris for the info
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Old 11-18-2009, 08:17 PM   #4 (permalink)
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if they are the older g23 not the 231 they are prone to overheating if pushed but they are the same basic engine for the pu ,pum and puh. if you have any ? shoot me an email. Peace, Al
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Old 11-22-2009, 07:17 AM   #5 (permalink)
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i have two but one has kalt 22 on the fly wheel case
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Old 11-23-2009, 08:24 AM   #6 (permalink)
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That one is REALLY old!! I would suggest that while you could probably make it work, you would be better off in the long run to get one of the more updated engines, the G231 or G26.

Toxic Al can CERTAINLY help you with that.
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Old 11-28-2009, 11:25 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Thanks Chris,I appreciate the support. Peace, Al
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Old 10-01-2010, 05:54 PM   #8 (permalink)
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al is there any way to pull more power out of my kalt 22.
i don't know what carb i have there are no #s on mine but it runs ok
i have changed my gear ratio from stock 12 tooth pinion to a 14,15. the 14 tooth makes the best head speed with less bog over my 15 tooth but i still get bogging with heavy cyclic inputs
can this engine make more power by porting and polish or do i need to just change it out with a 26
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Old 10-08-2010, 08:48 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Mods can be made to the old Kalt/Zenoah 23's, but with more output comes more heat potential. The older 23's had more rings (more friction/drag) and much less cooling fin area. These motors also only had a single transfer port where all of the new versions have dual transfer ports to the top of the piston area.

The power gain from one of the older model 23's (and the mods were sucessfully done) did not really overcome the less cooling capability and lesser potential for additional output
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Old 10-20-2010, 07:03 PM   #10 (permalink)
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if you take a 26 and change cylinder and piston to 29cc will the fly wheel or rotor need balancing
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Old 10-25-2010, 07:29 PM   #11 (permalink)
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you can use the top end on a stk bottom but the piston needs to be lightened considerably to run. in my opinon it is not worth the hassle. power increase will be minimal if not modified. Peace, Al
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