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Old 01-18-2008, 05:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default How well does it auto?

Does the Trex500 auto a little better than the trex450 or more like a trex600? Anybody do any good inverted autos yet? or does this thing not have the energy to do it?
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Old 01-18-2008, 05:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It does auto better than a 450 but not near the float time of a 600... It is pretty much inbetween.

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Old 01-18-2008, 05:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Damn, thats one thing I miss about my 50s, they auto'd great! My trex450 doesnt auto very well.
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Old 01-18-2008, 06:05 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
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Last time I did an auto was at least 1 year ago and it was on a Vibe 90 and I had done an auto once before that on a Raptor 30. I did an auto for the first time with my 500 the other day and it was somewhat of a success. I was going to ditch the attempt and do another approach but even though I had soft start disabled, the heli did not start back up so I had to do it I cracked a skid because I had actually gotten back into collective partially anticipating the motor restart, which never happened, so I touched hard enough to crack a skid but no other damage.

Knowing I had to commit I actually did 3 more autos with the one broken skid before calling it a day. You have plenty of float time there provided you perform the auto correctly. I tested mine first by hitting TH from a 6' high hover and setting it down just to get an idea of how fast the HS dropped. I was able to actually stop it, climbback just a bit and then set down.

I did land hard yesterday on another auto but again I got lucky with just the cracked skid

A little late to make a long story short but I will anyway.... If you can auto the 450 or a 30 size nitro I think you will be able to nail a 500 auto.
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If you can hit TH at 6' and it not drop like a stone, that is what I want to hear! My 450 drops like a rock! Of course I'm only using woodies at the moment but I wouldnt think that the carbons would make that huge of a difference! I know the carbons will be an improvement and I'll find out on sunday!
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Well now it depends on your HS at 6' Im running 12T on 6S so I think Im hitting maybe 2200-2300 tops so I can only give my results from that HS. Obviously with higher HS it will be even better. Just dont go alot of negative and slam it. I let it fall then slowed it down at about 2 feet then set it on down.

Start at 3 feet and work up. I think once you try it at 5-6' you will see its time to just do an auto.
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Old 01-18-2008, 09:08 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I think it autos great. It doesn't drop anywhere near as fast as a 450, no real stress at all in the auto with it. I'd say it's closer to the 600 than a 450, if you can auto a 50 sized without difficulty, you'r enot going to have any real problem with the 500.
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Old 01-18-2008, 09:24 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Hmm, do I need to fab up a non-driven tail gear and see if it gets better?
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Old 01-18-2008, 09:27 PM   #9 (permalink)
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If you need to fab up a special non driven tail to auto a 500, then you suck at autos and need to practice more, the problem is not in the heli. It's not like a 450 where you have to be good at autos to do it, you could very easily learn how to auto a heli on the 500, and do your first ones on it. It's an easy heli to auto.
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Old 01-18-2008, 09:37 PM   #10 (permalink)
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yeah, I may suck at autos, but non driven tails auto better the driven tails...thats a fact!
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Old 01-18-2008, 09:41 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Sure, just think how long my 90 would hang if I took out the driven tail! Come on man, go out and practice, it's easier to auto with a driven tail, and gives you more options while doing so. I'd bet if you went out and practiced for a few tanks doing nothing but autos, you'd get them nailed.
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Old 01-19-2008, 01:58 AM   #12 (permalink)
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i'd like to auto my 500 but my first attempt on my mini-titan didn't go so well the other day. re-watched finless' auto vid and realized a lil bit of forward airspeed is key. hitting the throttle hold switch from a 40 foot hover made that thing drop like a rock! lesson learned and a new pair of align woodies. i'll try again someday. i'll stick to perfecting my loops for now.
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Old 01-19-2008, 11:18 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Well you all know I can auto pretty good. If I can auto a 450 well then yes the 500 is a piece of cake. BUT if your only so so with a 50 sized heli on auto's your gonna crash or bounce hard the 500. It is closer to the 600 but float time is still not that great. If you watch my flight vids of the 500 I auto it ever flight at the end. Watch the float time! It's minimal in my opinion. Certainly much easier than a 450 though.

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Old 01-19-2008, 03:12 PM   #14 (permalink)
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A couple of years ago I was flying 50s and could auto those with no problem. In fact I ended every flight with a nice auto. I'm just now getting back into things with a 450se v2 and one thing I miss is the auto capability of the bigger helis. I'm lookin to get another heli soon and want one that autos well. Looks like I may have to go with a 600n or a Logo.
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Old 01-19-2008, 05:20 PM   #15 (permalink)
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They auto like a heavy thirty. The guys who've been around long enough will know what I mean.
Ever auto a Concept 30!! Or an X-Cell 30 or even an Ergo 30?

Yeah it can definitely be done, but there won't be much if any hangtime at the end. Be ready on the first one and you'll be fine if you're a good auto-er like Bob said.

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Old 01-19-2008, 06:10 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Sure, just think how long my 90 would hang if I took out the driven tail! Come on man, go out and practice, it's easier to auto with a driven tail, and gives you more options while doing so. I'd bet if you went out and practiced for a few tanks doing nothing but autos, you'd get them nailed.
Yes, this is how I was able to figure out how to auto a 450. I practiced with a non driven tail, and then was able to auto with the driven tail. If you cover the tail fin so it will weather vane, properly setup your auto's it is easier to auto with a non driven tail, No big secret here, less drag = higher head speed
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