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edhall · 11-10-2010, 07:42 PM

I orded some of the Ms Composite night tail blades from CommonSenseRc.

When they arrived the first set I opened up would not light with the supplied jumper.

I tried the other blade in the package and it also did not light either.

I found his very courious and checked the voltage with my meter and one blade had 0 volts and the other only registered .2.

I know that both blades being bad is a one in some great big number chance, but it did happen to me.

The other set of blades worked fine out of the bag.

Bruce at CommonSense talked with Ms Composite but didn't think they would warranty them at all. I am not sure he believes me, but I want others to be aware.

It's depressing as I have had good luck with the Ms Composite airplanes an have enjoyed them immensely. I have most of there foamys.

I have not dealt with CommonSenseRc much but they seem to ship ok and to be reliable.

Bruce is going to look into this some more but I don't have much hope for a successful resolution.

flyinfool · 11-11-2010, 08:50 AM

The MS tail blades have about the same failure rate as the Align blades.
There are a bunch of us here that have sets of very expensive MS day tail blades.
I also had no luck trying to get MS to warranty the blades.
I tried to repair my set of the MS tail blades by adding a tiny 20mAh liPo cell to the blade. It did not work well.

edhall · 11-11-2010, 06:20 PM

Well I am glad others will know about this and not make the same mistakes.

$70 gone POOF!

flyinfool · 11-11-2010, 08:42 PM

Well not gone, You still have a nice set of day blades.......

edhall · 12-13-2010, 09:33 PM

Well still no call back from Common Sense RC, so I'll call them, and have them ship my "Day" blades to me.

Looks like the last order for them from me.

bentwire · 12-19-2010, 01:36 PM

I have a set of MS night tail blades that I bought a couple years ago and never took out of the bag until a few months ago. The just barely work. The battery voltage is low and charges only last a very short period, maybe long enough for a flight, I've never tried it.

I came across a hobby shop with several unsold sets of the same night tail blades that they had had for a very long time and they were pretty sure they were no good. I took them all home to test for them and over half of them (15 or 20 sets total, I can't remember the exact number) had either one bad blade or both blades were bad, meaning either no light at all from a full charge cycle or else just a few short seconds of light.

After my experience with my set and the store's sets it seems that age and just sitting on a shelf degrades the night tail blades significantly.

Hoverinhigh7 · 12-25-2010, 02:01 AM

Thats crazy if they will not warranty the blades if they were bad when you got them.

jackheli · 11-14-2011, 01:26 AM

Just if someone stumbles on this post. This is how I fixed mine: an external 50mah lipo on the outside.

Check my post here: https://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=351299

flyinfool · 11-14-2011, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoverinhigh7

Thats crazy if they will not warranty the blades if they were bad when you got them.

When the night tail blades first came out, they were warrantying them like crazy. I think they decided that they could not stay in business sending out that many free blades. But since they are still the only night tailblades available, they are still in business. Before MS discovered green LEDs they had the best night blades on the market. Lithium is not a good chemistry for something that is used infrequently.

jackheli · 11-15-2011, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyinfool

But since they are still the only night tailblades available, they are still in business

Replaceable batteries:

http://www.centuryheli.com/products/...tnm=CN260929-L

http://www.centuryheli.com/products/...tnm=CN261059-L

they are in stock here: http://www.espritmodel.com

flyinfool · 11-16-2011, 12:45 PM

I never heard of those till now.
Has anyone ever tried them or seen them in person?

jackheli · 11-16-2011, 02:24 PM

My buddy is a Century rep and he coincidentally asked me to try them out.

If it happens this weekend I'll let you know.

Jason O'Connell · 11-17-2011, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyinfool

I never heard of those till now.
Has anyone ever tried them or seen them in person?

I just got a pair and they look verry nice. I have a few more things to finish my night rig but when I do I will let you know. I could come down and let you check them out in person at that time.

Jason

jackheli · 11-20-2011, 01:08 AM

Flew the Century tail blades today. They are awesome! Super visible and the tail was locked in.

Seemed really well made and the battery is replaceable... Guess if I ended up buying them from the rep...

Recommended!

AndrewAZ · 11-20-2011, 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackheli

Flew the Century tail blades today. They are awesome! Super visible and the tail was locked in.

Seemed really well made and the battery is replaceable... Guess if I ended up buying them from the rep...

Recommended!

Jack,

What size RT night blades are you using? What heli? thanks!

jackheli · 11-21-2011, 05:37 PM

Using the 92mm tail blades on an Align 600esp

11-10-2010, 07:42 PM	#1 (permalink)
edhall Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2009	Ms Composite night tail blades defective. I orded some of the Ms Composite night tail blades from CommonSenseRc. When they arrived the first set I opened up would not light with the supplied jumper. I tried the other blade in the package and it also did not light either. I found his very courious and checked the voltage with my meter and one blade had 0 volts and the other only registered .2. I know that both blades being bad is a one in some great big number chance, but it did happen to me. The other set of blades worked fine out of the bag. Bruce at CommonSense talked with Ms Composite but didn't think they would warranty them at all. I am not sure he believes me, but I want others to be aware. It's depressing as I have had good luck with the Ms Composite airplanes an have enjoyed them immensely. I have most of there foamys. I have not dealt with CommonSenseRc much but they seem to ship ok and to be reliable. Bruce is going to look into this some more but I don't have much hope for a successful resolution. __________________ New Toys, Logo 600SE, Futaba 18MZ Align 450 Pro V2, Mini-v Pantera 55, Pantera XE Elec Trex 600 ESP, Gaui 425

11-11-2010, 08:50 AM	#2 (permalink)
flyinfool Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2005	The MS tail blades have about the same failure rate as the Align blades. There are a bunch of us here that have sets of very expensive MS day tail blades. I also had no luck trying to get MS to warranty the blades. I tried to repair my set of the MS tail blades by adding a tiny 20mAh liPo cell to the blade. It did not work well. __________________ Jeff Borowski

11-11-2010, 06:20 PM	#3 (permalink)
edhall Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Feb 2009	Well I am glad others will know about this and not make the same mistakes. $70 gone POOF! __________________ New Toys, Logo 600SE, Futaba 18MZ Align 450 Pro V2, Mini-v Pantera 55, Pantera XE Elec Trex 600 ESP, Gaui 425

11-11-2010, 08:42 PM	#4 (permalink)
flyinfool Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2005	Well not gone, You still have a nice set of day blades....... __________________ Jeff Borowski

12-13-2010, 09:33 PM	#5 (permalink)
edhall Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Feb 2009	Well still no call back from Common Sense RC, so I'll call them, and have them ship my "Day" blades to me. Looks like the last order for them from me. __________________ New Toys, Logo 600SE, Futaba 18MZ Align 450 Pro V2, Mini-v Pantera 55, Pantera XE Elec Trex 600 ESP, Gaui 425

12-19-2010, 01:36 PM	#6 (permalink)
bentwire Registered Users Join Date: Jul 2009	I have a set of MS night tail blades that I bought a couple years ago and never took out of the bag until a few months ago. The just barely work. The battery voltage is low and charges only last a very short period, maybe long enough for a flight, I've never tried it. I came across a hobby shop with several unsold sets of the same night tail blades that they had had for a very long time and they were pretty sure they were no good. I took them all home to test for them and over half of them (15 or 20 sets total, I can't remember the exact number) had either one bad blade or both blades were bad, meaning either no light at all from a full charge cycle or else just a few short seconds of light. After my experience with my set and the store's sets it seems that age and just sitting on a shelf degrades the night tail blades significantly.

12-25-2010, 02:01 AM	#7 (permalink)
Hoverinhigh7 Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2008	Thats crazy if they will not warranty the blades if they were bad when you got them.

11-14-2011, 01:26 AM	#8 (permalink)
jackheli Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2006	Just if someone stumbles on this post. This is how I fixed mine: an external 50mah lipo on the outside. Check my post here: https://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=351299 __________________ It's easy to find an excuse to do wrong. Hard is not to find an excuse to do right.

11-16-2011, 12:45 PM	#11 (permalink)
flyinfool Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2005	I never heard of those till now. Has anyone ever tried them or seen them in person? __________________ Jeff Borowski

11-16-2011, 02:24 PM	#12 (permalink)
jackheli Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2006	My buddy is a Century rep and he coincidentally asked me to try them out. If it happens this weekend I'll let you know. __________________ It's easy to find an excuse to do wrong. Hard is not to find an excuse to do right.

11-20-2011, 01:08 AM	#14 (permalink)
jackheli Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2006	Flew the Century tail blades today. They are awesome! Super visible and the tail was locked in. Seemed really well made and the battery is replaceable... Guess if I ended up buying them from the rep... Recommended! __________________ It's easy to find an excuse to do wrong. Hard is not to find an excuse to do right.

11-21-2011, 05:37 PM	#16 (permalink)
jackheli Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2006	Using the 92mm tail blades on an Align 600esp __________________ It's easy to find an excuse to do wrong. Hard is not to find an excuse to do right.

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