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02-16-2010, 06:33 AM | #21 (permalink) |
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Hi freewheel and thanks for your input
Yes many HBFP pilots have mSRs as well though the general consensus seems to be buy the mSR first. That's because when you can fly a HBFP the mSR is a step backwards owing to it's inherently greater stability which can fool you into thinking you are a better pilot than you actually are. It's widely held that once you can fly a HBFP you can fly any heli - hence it's popularity with beginners.for several years now But as we see so often in these forums - we all arrive by different routes - the important thing is that we get there in the end
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02-16-2010, 03:36 PM | #22 (permalink) |
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Hi Freewheel and thank you for your comments. There will always be an exception to the rule and that not only refers to the MSR but perhaps the Walkera CB100 as well in this case. People may also disagree about the my comments on a CP if you were to look at the Walkera 4#6. I have tried to put together a simple "rule of thumb" to point out the main differences to newcomers.
I stand by my view about gyro's and how, on cheaper models, they do not control the tail as well. You say, "The statement is true, but this is not a "disadvantage", it's "flying", however as this thread is written for a total novice, the performance of a gyro needs to be explained. There is nothing wrong in explaining how gyro's on different heli's behave. A gyro that doesn't hold well, is not an advantage to a learner.
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03-15-2010, 08:10 AM | #23 (permalink) |
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I know this is a little late, but I wanted to say that the information posted by oliverdots is a very good summary and this type of information is always welcomed.
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03-16-2010, 02:13 AM | #24 (permalink) |
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Nice Introduction, Thanks
Nice Introduction for Newbies like me, totally agree about the least amount of
damage a Co-axial does. |
03-16-2010, 08:22 AM | #25 (permalink) |
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Great post OD
Re the mSR/CB100, I've seen loads of new pilots on the forums think that because the HBFP is also an FP, it will be in the same ball-park in regard of how easy it is to fly. As the mSR can seemingly be flown straight out of the box by a beginner (properly set up of course) I would class it as being much closer to a coaxial in terms if how easy it is to fly - going by what others say of course as I've never flown one myself. My first ever heli (with more than 2 channels) was a Walkera 5#6 coaxial which I smashed around the floor for a day or two before a mate who had a couple of weeks experience on a Lama came over and noticed a twitchy servo - so not all coax helis can be flown out of the box by a complete novice either - and I must admit my mate could get it to hover when I couldn't, misbehaving servo and all. So for any new pilots, if the FP has it's flybar at 90 degrees to the blades, you have to learn to balance it in the air just as you have to do with any CP heli. If it has an off-set flybar like a coaxial or a CB100/mSR all do, it will balance itself in the air - once it is properly set up. Dusty
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03-18-2010, 03:50 PM | #26 (permalink) |
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Thank you for your reply Freewheel and you are correct, the original write up doesn't refer to the MSR or the CB100 either. Bugster, Viet Lama and Dusty are right on the money here. The post refers to larger craft than micro's and who's flybars are at 90 degree's to the blades. I have updated my post to try and explain this and make it a little less confusing to the newcomer.
Things move fast in the heli world which is great, but a nightmare sometimes when you are trying to write a "simple" guide
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10-14-2010, 02:22 PM | #27 (permalink) |
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Yes thank you for posting this info. I can say as a total newbie that it is helpful information. I've flown the Blade CX2 and recently purchased the Blade MSR. I've only used the stock transmitters though and have heard that the MSR would fly even better with a better transmitter. So I bought a DX6i and can't wait for that to arrive. Now I'm just trying to decide if I should get the Phoenix sim also.
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Your moving right up the Heli. Ladder........it wont be long before you are looking at a 700 class bird. Sim's are a valuable tool in your Heli. toolbox. I say if you can afford it, Definitely get it. Phoenix is the sim I went with ( after owning / trying several). but you should try out the others to see if they would work better for you (RF is better at aircraft etc.) Also If you get Phoenix there is a guy (on another forum) who gives free flying lessons through Phoenix, over the internet.
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10-20-2010, 01:37 PM | #29 (permalink) |
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Thank you Wasabijim, glad it helped
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10-20-2010, 11:53 PM | #30 (permalink) |
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ODDDDDDddddddd !!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHATS UP MY FRIEND!
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02-26-2011, 10:57 AM | #31 (permalink) |
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Thanks man! Is the best explanation about rc helis I always wanted to read.
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07-31-2011, 01:45 PM | #32 (permalink) |
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thats a great post thank you
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08-19-2011, 07:20 PM | #33 (permalink) |
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great article
Thank You very much |
08-29-2011, 08:50 PM | #34 (permalink) |
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This is great info!!!
Thank you for putting this all down. This is sort of the path that I took om my own. My LHS carries the E-Flight Blade line so that is where I got my start.
First with a MCX2 coax. Didn't take me long till I wanted more after learning basic controls and basic orientation (I found that orientation on a heli that basically auto hovers is far different than one that will jet off when given the wrong input). Next I stepped up to the 120 SR. A fixed pitch single rotor heli. This thing was a blast but, as you said, quite a steep learning curve. I crashed it left and right till I was finally able to get through a whole battery with it in the air the whole time. Now I have moved on to a MCPX collective pitch heli. This is a tiny thing and buzzes around like a bumble bee but has taught me a lot about CP control. This will definitely help me when I am read to move on to my next step. This has all been quite a ride and I have loved every minute of it. Now I am preparing to get my next heli. Possible a 50 size nitro, but first I am definitely getting a simulator. With all the parts that I have bought for the 120 SR and the MCPX I could have had it already but flying is just too much fun. One warning to anyone thinking of getting into helis, It's highly addictive!!! Just talk to anyone already in it and their eyes light up. I'm already hooked. Good luck to all. |
09-12-2011, 09:21 PM | #35 (permalink) |
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Im new to the hobby and i must say that was a good read!!! Thanks for the advice!!!
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10-12-2011, 09:14 PM | #36 (permalink) |
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So even a little Blade Mcpx is a good heli for a learner ???
And BTW this was the best read i have read today it really put me back in my place... |
10-13-2011, 07:48 AM | #37 (permalink) |
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I personally don;t think a MCPX is a good 1st heli..it is too fast and squirrely if you have never flown before...a 1st collective pitch heli? yeah it is great for that...but i'd learn on a fixed pitch heli 1st...MCP-X is a tough little bird an flies great...but a little too much if your thumbs have not been trained!
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12-29-2011, 10:48 PM | #38 (permalink) |
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Thank your very much for this post. Being completely new, not knowing a thing... I feel tonight, I've stepped up a notch, and know what direction to start looking in. Still tons of questions and what if, what about.. Lol, but now, I see the light!!! Lol. Thanks
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