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DominicD · 07-22-2013, 11:41 PM

I know we have all seen a ton of compass vids with all out insane HS but they can do low headspeed too! I was inspired by Kyle, AJ and Art weekend before last at the fantastic Toronto FF to try my hand at low headspeed 3D. I will work towards getting my headspeed lower, but this is a good start I think (you can skip the first 50sec where I am detuning the headspeed).

Thanks for filming Kyle. I now wanna see some low HS 3D flying from everyone else.

Daniel880516 · 07-22-2013, 11:59 PM

Nice flying Dom! Makes me wanna work on lower headspeed too.

Jeff_Barrett · 07-23-2013, 08:00 AM

Nicely done, Dom. Did Kyle and the gang stay a few extra days or something, or are we talking about a different Kyle?

I've seen Rob Cherry run his E7 on 6S and Slyster try his Goblin 700 on 6S ... it's bizarre to listen to but the motor and ESC come down cool and they seem to get good flight times with it as well.

belcom · 07-23-2013, 08:14 AM

So now you'll be taking up the flightline for 10 minutes in a row instead of 6? LOL

As always great flight Dom. One of the very few actually filmed.

What did Santino tach you at on that flight?

GimpyGolden · 07-23-2013, 08:44 AM

Lookin good Dom.
If your ESC is getting hot from running low throttle% try running with just one pack (6S) then you can run same throttle% and cut HS in 1/2.

If you can't get CG with one of your 6HV packs (3000's?) maybe try a 6S 5000.

GimpyGolden · 07-23-2013, 08:45 AM

Wholly RCHC boyz all in stack. Wasn't planned I swear

DominicD · 07-23-2013, 09:43 AM

San tached me at 1800 unloaded 1700 loaded, not bad for no gov. I will continue to work my way down to a lower and lower HS. I don't want a specific setup, I just wanna play around with it when I am done flying for the day and just wanna horse around.

Art and Kyle kept flying all of Sunday, I left around 5 but I heard they stuck around until 7-8. We will be seeing them again when we head down to the Rochester FF next month.

Only problem with low HS is you realize how bad your bearings have gotten.

Jeff_Barrett · 07-23-2013, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DominicD

Only problem with low HS is you realize how bad your bearings have gotten.

.... and poor collective management in my case. LOL

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DominicD · 07-23-2013, 10:38 AM

Yeah the machine barely makes over the top of my piro loops, and simply refuses to pogo.

Jeff_Barrett · 07-23-2013, 10:47 AM

LOL ... it is fun to mess around and experiment though.

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belcom · 07-23-2013, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DominicD

Yeah the machine barely makes over the top of my piro loops, and simply refuses to pogo.

Maybe edge 623s will help a bit

GimpyGolden · 07-23-2013, 03:46 PM

Try the Edge FB blades, quicker on Cyclic and lighter meaning faster HS recovery.

GimpyGolden · 07-23-2013, 03:47 PM

Did it again

Vlad you have some FB 623's for the experiment don't you?

belcom · 07-23-2013, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GimpyGolden

Vlad you have some FB 623's for the experiment don't you?

Indeed

Rob43 · 07-23-2013, 08:30 PM

Nice vid, Dominic. I've been enjoying it as well. The 6HV is ideal for low head speed 3d. Unfortunately, I don't have anyone to record my flights. I've been flying the majority of my flights at close to the same speed as your lowest in the video, but have been experimenting around the 20 to 40 percent throttle range for some time. I have a Vbar bank for low speed and one for high. I find the low speed of the day depends on how much wind is blowing. Windy days need a bit more speed for best tail authority, say 40% throttle (around 1600 rpm), but when it's more calm, I've found the bird will do it all at 30% (around 1500 rpm). Cool part is 8-10 min flights if desired. It's a lot of fun for me, as it allows me to work more on being precise on position and heading. Exiting moves exactly as desired, with time to correct. It's also a bit nicer for flying in close where it's easier to see the details. Nice smooth, slow piro flips, funnels, hurricanes and dead steady low altitude inverted passes close to the ground.

This vid isn't as nice as yours, but at 1:35, I flipped to 40% throttle from 65%.

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SamSmith · 07-27-2013, 01:58 PM

Great Flying and Awesome flying site !

Rob43 · 07-28-2013, 10:24 PM

Woodruff Lake Airport, near Winn, Michigan! Sweet place to fly for sure.

s0laris · 08-01-2013, 11:44 AM

Pretty neat.. I am going to experiment with lower hs on the warp. once I get the govenor on the ikon to actually work better lol

DominicD · 08-01-2013, 11:46 AM

Running with a gov is cheating

s0laris · 08-01-2013, 08:00 PM

ya i can set up a bank with no govenor enabled.. thats easy to do.. i will try that at kelowna fun fly tomorrow

07-22-2013, 11:41 PM	#1 (permalink)
DominicD The Capi My HF Map location Join Date: Oct 2006	A little shameless self-promotion I know we have all seen a ton of compass vids with all out insane HS but they can do low headspeed too! I was inspired by Kyle, AJ and Art weekend before last at the fantastic Toronto FF to try my hand at low headspeed 3D. I will work towards getting my headspeed lower, but this is a good start I think (you can skip the first 50sec where I am detuning the headspeed). Thanks for filming Kyle. I now wanna see some low HS 3D flying from everyone else. __________________ Spreading capibara awareness since 2006

07-22-2013, 11:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
Daniel880516 Registered Users Join Date: Nov 2011	Nice flying Dom! Makes me wanna work on lower headspeed too. __________________ Logo 690sx, Xxtreme 700 Vcontrol

07-23-2013, 08:14 AM	#4 (permalink)
belcom Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2010	So now you'll be taking up the flightline for 10 minutes in a row instead of 6? LOL As always great flight Dom. One of the very few actually filmed. What did Santino tach you at on that flight? __________________

07-23-2013, 08:44 AM	#5 (permalink)
GimpyGolden Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2009	Lookin good Dom. If your ESC is getting hot from running low throttle% try running with just one pack (6S) then you can run same throttle% and cut HS in 1/2. If you can't get CG with one of your 6HV packs (3000's?) maybe try a 6S 5000. __________________ Scott Team RotorQuest

07-23-2013, 08:45 AM	#6 (permalink)
GimpyGolden Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2009	Wholly RCHC boyz all in stack. Wasn't planned I swear __________________ Scott Team RotorQuest

07-23-2013, 08:00 AM	#3 (permalink)
Jeff_Barrett Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2010	Nicely done, Dom. Did Kyle and the gang stay a few extra days or something, or are we talking about a different Kyle? I've seen Rob Cherry run his E7 on 6S and Slyster try his Goblin 700 on 6S ... it's bizarre to listen to but the motor and ESC come down cool and they seem to get good flight times with it as well.

07-23-2013, 09:43 AM	#7 (permalink)
DominicD The Capi Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Oct 2006	San tached me at 1800 unloaded 1700 loaded, not bad for no gov. I will continue to work my way down to a lower and lower HS. I don't want a specific setup, I just wanna play around with it when I am done flying for the day and just wanna horse around. Art and Kyle kept flying all of Sunday, I left around 5 but I heard they stuck around until 7-8. We will be seeing them again when we head down to the Rochester FF next month. Only problem with low HS is you realize how bad your bearings have gotten. __________________ Spreading capibara awareness since 2006

07-23-2013, 10:38 AM	#9 (permalink)
DominicD The Capi Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Oct 2006	Yeah the machine barely makes over the top of my piro loops, and simply refuses to pogo. __________________ Spreading capibara awareness since 2006

07-23-2013, 10:47 AM	#10 (permalink)
Jeff_Barrett Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2010	Re: A little shameless self-promotion LOL ... it is fun to mess around and experiment though. Sent from my SGH-I747M using Tapatalk 2

07-23-2013, 03:46 PM	#12 (permalink)
GimpyGolden Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2009	Try the Edge FB blades, quicker on Cyclic and lighter meaning faster HS recovery. __________________ Scott Team RotorQuest

07-23-2013, 03:47 PM	#13 (permalink)
GimpyGolden Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2009	Did it again Vlad you have some FB 623's for the experiment don't you? __________________ Scott Team RotorQuest

07-27-2013, 01:58 PM	#16 (permalink)
SamSmith Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2013	Great Flying and Awesome flying site !

07-28-2013, 10:24 PM	#17 (permalink)
Rob43 Registered Users Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Midland, Michigan	Woodruff Lake Airport, near Winn, Michigan! Sweet place to fly for sure. __________________ = Rb43 =

08-01-2013, 11:44 AM	#18 (permalink)
s0laris Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2006	Pretty neat.. I am going to experiment with lower hs on the warp. once I get the govenor on the ikon to actually work better lol __________________ Team Fun / Heli Canada When you start to be in complete control reflexes are not a requirement.

08-01-2013, 11:46 AM	#19 (permalink)
DominicD The Capi Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Oct 2006	Running with a gov is cheating __________________ Spreading capibara awareness since 2006

08-01-2013, 08:00 PM	#20 (permalink)
s0laris Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2006	ya i can set up a bank with no govenor enabled.. thats easy to do.. i will try that at kelowna fun fly tomorrow __________________ Team Fun / Heli Canada When you start to be in complete control reflexes are not a requirement.

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