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02-05-2012, 02:34 AM | #1 (permalink) |
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YGE Gov vbar settings?
For a 700E with 4530LE motor and yge vbar gov mode are the stock settings in vbar for electric ok??? Any recommendations? I heard the dynamic is only really for nitros
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02-05-2012, 06:19 AM | #2 (permalink) |
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Hi.
For some others and me this setup works not well. Actually I am in discussion with Mikado and YGE to investigate what is the reason for that behaviour. Did you fly the heli already? Would be nice to get another impression. Suggestions: increase gain to 35-40 and collective add to 30. Cheers Nils |
02-05-2012, 01:40 PM | #3 (permalink) |
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Hi think thats motor start/stop value wrong.
Have not flown it yet |
02-12-2012, 06:05 PM | #4 (permalink) |
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I have found that when using external govs like vbar that my motors work better with slightly lower timing and slightly higher pwn. I believe this has alot to do with the aggressive nature of plane fast. The other important thing i found is programming your endpoints so that they calibrate at minimum of 100/100 to 105/105... This helps increase throttle resolution for more linear soft starts. I have been doing this recently and have found that soft start is much better this way.
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02-14-2012, 08:40 AM | #5 (permalink) | |
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I'd also like to know what lead you to the conclusion that lower timing and higher PWM performs better. Increased power, better gov, lower temps?
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02-14-2012, 11:22 AM | #6 (permalink) | |
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Scorpion you will get good results with pwm 12 and timing 18. I dont know where scorpion gets the 5 degrees from, it works with there own esc but deff not the yge.
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02-14-2012, 03:28 PM | #7 (permalink) | |
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02-17-2012, 03:12 PM | #9 (permalink) | |
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I managed to get a soft start that is perfect. It's quick, but doesn't even twitch the tail. The stop value will need to be changed if you change the spoolup speed. I have my spoolup set to 5 on my X7, default of 3 is just way too slow. I have it set to 7 on my X5.
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02-17-2012, 06:12 PM | #10 (permalink) | |
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Sorry but I do not understand how either works? Reason is as soon as you enable Collective to ESC the VBar is now outputting the Pitch Channel to the ESC to set ESC Motor Stop and ESC Motor Full.
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02-18-2012, 06:03 AM | #11 (permalink) |
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The yge initially always is abrupt for the first .2 sec then its smooth.
I tried many things and always the same start behaviour |
02-18-2012, 08:19 AM | #12 (permalink) | |
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02-18-2012, 09:05 AM | #13 (permalink) |
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My 120HV also starts with a pretty good jerk, doesn't seem to matter if startup is set to auto, 2% or 4%. Spoolup is smooth after the initial impulse. Getting the blades started by hand seems to help.
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02-18-2012, 09:25 AM | #14 (permalink) | |
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Same here startup power does not make much difference in the initial kick.
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02-18-2012, 02:58 PM | #15 (permalink) | |
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02-18-2012, 05:17 PM | #16 (permalink) | |
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Each motor is going to start at a different value. Follow the process I wrote in VBar Instructions Ver. 3, it works. https://www.helifreak.com/showthread...=339471&page=3
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02-19-2012, 09:09 AM | #17 (permalink) | |
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I'm still trying to figure out what he is doing to get to his result as he only references "sliders", and that could be the transmitter trim tab, or the gov II tab. Another point you mentioned, when flipping into collective control it uses those values instead of throttle. So that makes his statement about the sliders even more puzzling. I just wanted to understand what he was referencing and hope for some screen shots or an in-depth explanation.
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02-19-2012, 09:33 AM | #18 (permalink) |
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Joe1 and i talked about giving the th channel "more resolution". As it helped his setup, but I have not tried.
1. In VBar Setup>Tx use your radio to set Th endpoints to -105 +105 2. Turn off Gov 3. Rebind 4. Follow instructions , but replace above for the collective control section. Basically you would be setting ESC endpoints to -105,+105 Your VBar motor stop and full would end up with higher values ~ +5 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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02-20-2012, 10:01 AM | #19 (permalink) | |
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For anyone using an older pre-phase sensor YGE with Vbar gov...this will help alot. I did this with my older YGE100LV on my Vbar gov...extending the endpoints to 105/105 which not only resutled in slower soft-start but also allowed me to use higher gov gains! I flew it this weekend with new endpoints and very happy with the way it flew compared to original 94/98 endpoints.
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02-20-2012, 11:46 AM | #20 (permalink) |
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I want to thank both you and Mystic for demystifying this for me. I'm pretty sure I get it now and like your added comments about offsetting. I was reading over in the Logo XXtreme forum that they are running the YGE 160 with the Brake on. I'm not sure why that would be, but MrMel is saying it won't work right without it. Now I'm curious if that would be true for all YGE ESCs.
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