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trillian · 02-11-2013, 02:46 PM

It occurs to me that the Beam Avantgarde is very similar to the Compass 6HV in that they are both lightweight 600 size, direct servo links to the swash, very clean and simple layout etc.

I like the look of both but since I have a Beam E4 I was very interested in the Avantgarde from when it was first announced.

Anyway, the point is; I'm just curious on any thoughts pros or cons about the Beam and the 6HV.

I read about some problems with the Beam that I assume have since been corrected? Issues with the one-way bearing, main shafts breaking etc.

I'm not in a big rush to buy something but I think I have narrowed down my next heli purchase to one of those two.

One thing that has been said about the Beam is the lack of a few more pinion choices. Right now I have enough electrics to outfit a new heli but the two motors I have are 510KV and 470KV so really a 14 tooth pinion would be helpful. Unfortunately mod 0.8 is not very common in a herringbone.

Kalle75 · 02-11-2013, 05:34 PM

Hi trillian,

with my Beam avantgarde Kit came the "old" V1 OWB as also the V2 OWB.
Building it is really fun. I can´t complain about anything till now.

My Scorpion motor has 560kv and i´m using the pinion included in the kit (12t).

lowey79 · 02-12-2013, 03:57 AM

I can't comment on the 6hv, as I've not owned one. But you will not be disappointed with the avantgarde! Very easy to assemble, and it flies like it's on rail.

As for the motor options I'm using a 550 kv motor with a 13 tooth pinion and get a max governed head speed of 2250rpm. Your 510kv should get around 2100rpm governed with a 13 tooth.

wadders248 · 02-12-2013, 01:26 PM

It depends how hard you fly, though you might find yourself wanting a bit more with 510kv on 13T. If you're ever in the frozen north, you're welcome to call-in and have a nosey at my heli.

Blades345 · 04-06-2013, 12:50 AM

Trillian,
I am currently out of the hobby, (not by choice), but the 6HV was the last heli I owned and I will tell you, it's great. The motor that comes with it is very powerful, and it doesn't get extremely hot. The ESC that comes with the kit is very good as well, and I never had any issues. The 6HV is a lightweight, compact heli with plenty of power. The best part is, you can buy cheap batteries for it. I ran it on 2 Turnigy 2650mah and 2 Turnigy 3000mah 6S 20C's and it was a powerhouse. It auto'd great and I got great flight times. Whenever I get back into the hobby, I will be owning one of these helis' again!!

ATH72 · 04-24-2013, 03:37 PM

I became an owner of a Beam 600 Avantgarde in October and it immediately became one of my favourites. It has taken many solution from Logo 600, and I think it fly very much like a Logo too. It is very nice looking in the air as well, and the wide white skids is also very nice in that sence. And it runs very quitely.

I got the V2 version with new one-way and blade grip arms etc. I have had no issues with mine. Only thing I can mention is I think bolts are very soft material. However I didnt break any during assembly.

I guess 6HV is a nice machine too, but I hate the look of it. And in my opinion it makes no precense in the air. So if I was to choose once more it would be Beam again.

02-11-2013, 02:46 PM	#1 (permalink)
trillian Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: UK, Kent coast	Beam vs 6HV It occurs to me that the Beam Avantgarde is very similar to the Compass 6HV in that they are both lightweight 600 size, direct servo links to the swash, very clean and simple layout etc. I like the look of both but since I have a Beam E4 I was very interested in the Avantgarde from when it was first announced. Anyway, the point is; I'm just curious on any thoughts pros or cons about the Beam and the 6HV. I read about some problems with the Beam that I assume have since been corrected? Issues with the one-way bearing, main shafts breaking etc. I'm not in a big rush to buy something but I think I have narrowed down my next heli purchase to one of those two. One thing that has been said about the Beam is the lack of a few more pinion choices. Right now I have enough electrics to outfit a new heli but the two motors I have are 510KV and 470KV so really a 14 tooth pinion would be helpful. Unfortunately mod 0.8 is not very common in a herringbone. __________________ HD Cell 750, RJX Vector, TDR, TDSF, Kasama Dune and Faifa, Minicopter Triabolo 700, Beam Avantgarde, JR E8 leggero, Suzi Laos, Shape 9, Shape S8, Rave 450, TRex 500, Raptor E700, Compass Warp, Steam 700, Spirit, Spartan, Jeti.

02-12-2013, 01:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
wadders248 Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2011	It depends how hard you fly, though you might find yourself wanting a bit more with 510kv on 13T. If you're ever in the frozen north, you're welcome to call-in and have a nosey at my heli. __________________ Kasama UK \| Bavarian Demon

04-06-2013, 12:50 AM	#5 (permalink)
Blades345 Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2009	Trillian, I am currently out of the hobby, (not by choice), but the 6HV was the last heli I owned and I will tell you, it's great. The motor that comes with it is very powerful, and it doesn't get extremely hot. The ESC that comes with the kit is very good as well, and I never had any issues. The 6HV is a lightweight, compact heli with plenty of power. The best part is, you can buy cheap batteries for it. I ran it on 2 Turnigy 2650mah and 2 Turnigy 3000mah 6S 20C's and it was a powerhouse. It auto'd great and I got great flight times. Whenever I get back into the hobby, I will be owning one of these helis' again!! __________________ When you don't feel like soaring through the wind with a plane,, BEAT IT INTO SUBMISSION WITH A HELI! XL 700 Specter V2. Xera 500kv motor, Tesla cyclic servos, Tesla tail, HW 200amp ESC, Ikon 2 FBL. XL Protos 380, Torq servos, HW esc, Egodrift motor, Ikon 2

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02-11-2013, 05:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
Kalle75 Registered Users Join Date: May 2007	Hi trillian, with my Beam avantgarde Kit came the "old" V1 OWB as also the V2 OWB. Building it is really fun. I can´t complain about anything till now. My Scorpion motor has 560kv and i´m using the pinion included in the kit (12t).

02-12-2013, 03:57 AM	#3 (permalink)
lowey79 Registered Users Join Date: Jul 2009	I can't comment on the 6hv, as I've not owned one. But you will not be disappointed with the avantgarde! Very easy to assemble, and it flies like it's on rail. As for the motor options I'm using a 550 kv motor with a 13 tooth pinion and get a max governed head speed of 2250rpm. Your 510kv should get around 2100rpm governed with a 13 tooth.

04-24-2013, 03:37 PM	#6 (permalink)
ATH72 Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2012	I became an owner of a Beam 600 Avantgarde in October and it immediately became one of my favourites. It has taken many solution from Logo 600, and I think it fly very much like a Logo too. It is very nice looking in the air as well, and the wide white skids is also very nice in that sence. And it runs very quitely. I got the V2 version with new one-way and blade grip arms etc. I have had no issues with mine. Only thing I can mention is I think bolts are very soft material. However I didnt break any during assembly. I guess 6HV is a nice machine too, but I hate the look of it. And in my opinion it makes no precense in the air. So if I was to choose once more it would be Beam again.

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