Copilot hands free. Need help..

[pril250]

Originally Posted by icerat4

Very little wind ...No buildings or anything around....The 500 was better buy far....the 450 no way could i let go of the sticks...Yes i could hover nose in but had to fight the foward stick alot....once i let go it came right at me .So i pulled back on the stick to stop it .And i had it hover good only with stick input..The 500 was alot less stick input.....


My conditions
1..Very clear out side temps 45-50 degrees..Nothing around as far as building trees etc..
2 Hook up batterys and turn on cp2 take ir up to the router and press enter .cp2 ver number appears.Press enter again preflight appears..Press enter all go sign come on ready to fly.....
3...start to hover 4-5 feet in air ..nose in...Let go of the sticks... whoa it comes right at me full loaded...so back i pull on the stick to pull it back ...No way can i let offf the stick..

4...i have a dx7 with a ar7000.
5. the 500 was better but no hands free for more than 2-3 seconds...I think this is all i can think of....



I will tell you all i did not build these helies my friend did .And he builds plenty of then for a large hobby shop here in illinois...I am just a guy that wants to fly....And i do a desent job for a newbie...So just a heads up i can tell u the way he set me up with these i can nose in hover no problem .i do have plenty of vids on utube under my screen name icerat4 to see me in action .as to my abilitys....I am sure all his settings are fine as like i said i have no issues hovering at all very stable....I got these cp2 for my next step actually flying around slow and not having issues when disorianted...So just to be clear about me ..thanks guys im sure we can get this to work for me ...Now all we need here in illinois .Is nice weather again....Thanks for any input ....

In that case we are probably talking to the wrong guy.....LOL
Sorry to say you will have to get involved one day whether you like it or not
That is why I am about to give up on this system, I can see it is not suitable for my location where 98% of the time it is NO FLY from CPIIFlymentor

[nightflyr]

Ok...home now, pm me your phone # so we can get this sorted out

[icerat4]

Well its that time to get involved lol...I went with this system for ease of setup ..we do get alot of better fly time im sure.....No worries Nightflyer will know as he has the best info on these cp2 .....I am sure i am just a couple clicks away from a good set up ..I did talk to the guy who built these and set up the cp2..he told me like i alredy knew he had very little time with weather conditions being so crapie and him wanting me to get my stuff back ...He did what he could do with weather and time ...He told me bring them back and with more time and better weather there should not be a problem ....It was really windy when he set them up .Not ideal conditions at all...

[icerat4]

Pm sent thanks

[Top2874]

Originally Posted by icerat4

Hey guys i have 2 cp2 .installed on a 500 esp and a 450pro.....Both the helis will not fly hands off...I had a buddie of mine put them in ..He is also the one who built the helis for me ..A very smart heli guy .he builts them for a hobby shop..But i feel these cp2s are not set up right...I have a dx7 tx .....They both fly fine without the cp2 on..So his set initial set up is fine....Some setting has to be off some wheres as the 450 with sticks at mid point the heli wants to shoot fowards fast...I have to back the stick to keep it steady...The 500 is a little better but no hands off.....Is there a basic setting of all inputs once ya get the heli stable to begin with...What should i set all my controls at ..He is good with helis .i just feel something is not right..As they do not fly hands off as of yet ....

IceRat,

The 100% your friend is talking about is your stick priority... at 100% your heli has most of the conrol! I recommend chaning your stick priority to about 140 or so... this will give you alot of control... as far as it shooting forward... you need to change your pitch angles in the CPII... Go through the menu until you find the pitch angles... default is 0. If it is shooting forward, then you need to change it to UP 2 degrees or so.... this is kind of trial and error. Think of the setting as which way you want your nose to go... If your heli is going forward, you want the nose to go up. Same thing with left and rt....

[pril250]

Let us know how NF sorted you out

[icerat4]

Originally Posted by pril250

Let us know how NF sorted you out

Weather here is going to be crap the rest of the week ... o well im sure when we have the time and weather will get this right...It has to work ...im sure we are so close....if my stick prioritys are at 100 percent...what percent would i want for the cp2 to take over more ....higher or lower....number

[pril250]

Originally Posted by icerat4

Weather here is going to be crap the rest of the week ... o well im sure when we have the time and weather will get this right...It has to work ...im sure we are so close....if my stick prioritys are at 100 percent...what percent would i want for the cp2 to take over more ....higher or lower....number

Tell me about it, I have been waiting for over a month now, seriously

[n6nev]

Originally Posted by icerat4

Weather here is going to be crap the rest of the week ... o well im sure when we have the time and weather will get this right...It has to work ...im sure we are so close....if my stick prioritys are at 100 percent...what percent would i want for the cp2 to take over more ....higher or lower....number

Here are some guidelines that will give more control to you
and less to Co-Pilot:

n

If you are not getting any oscillation, then leave Gains
where they are.

n

Increase the Stick Priority. Experienced fliers tend to use
higher figures like 150%.

n

If possible, assign a slider or knob to the Co-Pilot ON/OFF
channel so you can vary sensitivity in the air. If this isn’t
possible, you can accomplish the same thing by reducing
the Gains when you land using the IRNet Programmer.

n

You can eliminate Co-Pilot interaction when Co-Pilot is
switched OFF by reducing the Auto Trim function to zero.
But when you do this, the model will probably no longer
be trimmed when Co-Pilot is ON. Use the Set Angles
menus to trim the aircraft when Co-Pilot is ON. (To set

Auto Trim to zero, you don’t

[pril250]

Just to air my frustration did a little indoor excersise with my blade400. Not the most brilliant vid but it is a first.....

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6f-ZikDUTl0[/ame]

[FLAME747]

Sorry IceRat - Been busy here.

Hopefully NightFlyr will be able to get your problem sorted out,

If your swash is level, then all adjustment is done with the IR hand held unit to correct any unwanted movements, that how I did it.

FCA

[pril250]

Originally Posted by FLAME747

Sorry IceRat - Been busy here.

Hopefully NightFlyr will be able to get your problem sorted out,

If your swash is level, then all adjustment is done with the IR hand held unit to correct any unwanted movements, that how I did it.

FCA

That is if some fair weather will stay put or consistant for more than one battery's/tank's worth.... with me by the time I think I am done with setting/trimming IRNet say NO!

CPII - There are those who swear by it and those who swear at it

[icerat4]

Hey night ...i had both my 500 and 450 set with the same tx ..Now that we reset the 450 ,Do we have to reset the 500 side ..because as that flew alot better ..It still wasnt hands off..But was alot better than the 450....So will the ir reconize the 500 settings .ON the right side switch aux on my dx7...for my 500esp....

[nightflyr]

different model setup for the 500 it wasn't affected

[icerat4]

Well night its going to be a while before i can fly. Look at this next 7 day forcast here in illinois.



http://www.wgntv.com/weather/7dayforecast/

[nightflyr]

I've been waiting almost 5 weeks to spool up, and With 600 & 700 birds, don't care what system you have installed, you won't be flying these indoors..

[pril250]

Made an attempt to shoot a video out in the back yard earlier today to demonstrate how well FM holds the heli on position mode. It was so windy I had trouble keeping the heli in the shot (tripod) let alone show off my hands free skills.

So had to put it off for another day

[nightflyr]

pril250,

Not trying to bust on you..but this is a Co Pilot thread,
I'm sure your FM is working nice for you,but I believe it would be better said and shown on a FM thread.

No offense intended

[pril250]

Originally Posted by nightflyr

pril250,

Not trying to bust on you..but this is a Co Pilot thread,
I'm sure your FM is working nice for you,but I believe it would be better said and shown on a FM thread.

No offense intended

Sorry sir, will do.

Edit: I wish my CPII was working as nice for me.

[icerat4]

Holy Cow Night....Nice looking dog Too..