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Old 04-20-2015, 04:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Not sure if theres capabilities, but wondering if its possible to incorperate a heli uncommanded movement error in the logs? Say something happens with tail, ie servo comes unpluged or just stops working and heli starts to spin. The Vortex should know it's not supposed to piro when its not commanded, right? Or when its not responding to stick inputs. IE Right rudder, CW piro is commanded, but heli is Piroing CCW.


Just had a issue with my 700n. Stuffed her in. I am not sure if tail servo came unpluged slightly or if it just stopped working. I was flying, then she started Piroing slowly CW. Against rotor torque. I gave right stick to stop, but she wasn't. Then I hit TH and the piro actually sped up. Which tells me it was the servo positioning the tail to piro. Upon crash, Tail reacted normal tho. Servo plug looked a little bit shifted, but was making contact and can't duplicate it on the bench.
Also, wouldnt the tail return to center and heli CCW Piro if servo came unpluged in flight, and Piro slow down when I hit TH(stopped engine Tq)?

Need to know if I should suspect this Futaba s9265 and just get something newer?
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It is not necessarily impossible but it will take a lot of work to reliably detect out of control situations and not filling the log with entries that will make people paranoid.

The way the control algorithms see things... the heli is always out of control and they always try to correct it. To make an out of control detection there will need to be some detection thresholds between what the pilot asks and what is happening and here is the problem. Would you say that your car engine is out of control if you just floored the accelerator and the car didn't instantly accelerate to 120mph? Or what happens when the throttle is zero but the car speed is unusually high because you are going downhill. There are similar situations with the heli and I hope you see how the detection complexity builds up.

If such log was adding some value I would certainly consider it. But I am sure the pilot can easily observe that his heli is out of control. The log is for things that the pilot can't see... for example was there a voltage drop that caused brown-out, did the receiver lose signal, etc.
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Old 04-22-2015, 05:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Yup. Understood. Just had to ask
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