$495, REALLY???

[Helos4me]

What I want to know is will it do blind autos below the horizon for me?????

[ArguZ]

Originally Posted by zeeflyboy

Not alti georgi, atti

As in attitude.

Think of it as centre stick self level on the SK, except instead of just using accelerometer data it uses GPS as well and holds position.

So you can fly around almost like normal (eg centre stick self level on SK) but then when you centr the sticks it not only self levels but also holds position.

You understand what I'm saying there?

The atti mode of the NAZA does exactly what the old SK720 is doing on self level, Always On, nothing more.
You need the GPS sensor and you need to be in GPS mode for position hold.

[zeeflyboy]

not sure I understand how what you're saying is really substantially different to what I said.

The GPS-Atti mode is like the self level mode on the SK720 I know, but it has GPS position hold in there too... so when you release the sticks it not only self levels but also skids to a halt and holds. The plain (non GPS) Atti mode is the equivalent of the SK self level.

The GPS position hold mode on the Skookum from what georgi has said only allows you to slowly slew the position, until you turn it off by means of the switch. The self level mode doesn't appear to use GPS in the same way as the Naza GPS-Atti, it behaves like the plain Atti mode.

It's not a question of hardware capability, it's a question of software option.... just being able to combine self level and GPS position hold into one "GPS-Self level" mode.... exactly like Naza combines the Atti mode and GPS mode into "GPS-Atti".

Anyway, this thread isn't about the Naza, I was just intending originally to point out to one of the other posters that the Naza is not in fact a direct alternative to the SK720 and lacks a lot of the features that guys here will want (eg advanced bailout, hard deck etc)... but does have a couple of features that the SK appears to currently lack. Different markets imo.

Example - For me personally, I'm currently looking into using it in my scale FPV project, and a "GPS-atti"esque mode plus radio failsafe such as auto-hover are important to me. I'd honestly prefer to go with the Skookum - I have a couple and am already used to them, plus I feel it's a much better controller overall... but it initially appears to be lacking for my needs. The Naza is perhaps more suitable given my goals (unless SK do add these features).

Were I looking to fit GPS to my 600 Pro, then the Naza would be sorely lacking in features that were of interest (namely bailout and hard deck)...

This was my point, the two aren't necessarily directly interchangeable and currently suit different goals. The SK could easily be made to do everything the Naza can, it just requires the features to be added in software, but I'm not sure the reverse is true....

[RC Mike]

Originally Posted by gmcallister

=] hi G! this is just (in my head) a quick price breakdown, not to be taken too seriously!

consists of,

1, GPS receiver
2, Dual barometers
3, Magnetic compass
4, CPU
5, Data storage
6, Other bits!
7, GPS GUI

call that lot $195,

6 x gps options @ $50 each,

total $495,

from there it's future expansion makes it even more value for money, how am I doing??!

APM does all that and more for $179.99. They also have awesome ground station and setup program that is all free.
http://store.diydrones.com/APM_2_5_A...r-apmpwrkt.htm
　

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[Jeff_Barrett]

Originally Posted by neavissa

p.s. The DJI NAZA-H is $495 and from what I can tell, it pretty much does what the SK-GPS does?!

.... and not proven for 3D flight .... we have no idea how good the tail gyro will be.

This isn't shocking because there's more to this than simply the hardware.

[distructor]

I'll wait for a couple months. I'm pretty happy with the HC3-SX on my expensive heli and my practice heli, If the functionality of the SK-GPS lives up to our hopes, I'll pony up the bucks as I expand my fleet. However at this price, I can't be a 1st adopter. Waiting for reviews and videos.

[georgi UK]

Originally Posted by RC Mike

APM does all that and more for $179.99. They also have awesome ground station and setup program that is all free.
http://store.diydrones.com/APM_2_5_A...r-apmpwrkt.htm
　

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=] bargain!!

[ArguZ]

If flying a Helicopter becomes a geeky OpenSource project, count me out.
I am going back to turbine boats then...savy !!

[neavissa]

Originally Posted by 65L88

I'm not too shocked because I heard reports (from good sources, I might add) of around $600 initially.

And why were you not shocked back then, when you thought it might be around $600 bucks?!

G

[neavissa]

Originally Posted by Avi_Y

A very disappointing price after the long wait.

+1

[neavissa]

Originally Posted by ArguZ

Because its not suited for smack or harder 3D.

What I dont get is, why a system would not be suited for smack or hard 3D?! Isn't it just a bunch of sensors?! How can they get screwed up by being smacked around?! I mean, its like taking a calculator in your pocket on a Motocross track and it suddenly wouldn't work?!

G

[neavissa]

Originally Posted by gmcallister

=] hi G! this is just (in my head) a quick price breakdown, not to be taken too seriously!

consists of,

1, GPS receiver
2, Dual barometers
3, Magnetic compass
4, CPU
5, Data storage
6, Other bits!
7, GPS GUI

call that lot $195,

6 x gps options @ $50 each,

total $495,

from there it's future expansion makes it even more value for money, how am I doing??!

You are doing Great! As always!!!

G

[bstanley72]

Originally Posted by neavissa

What I dont get is, why a system would not be suited for smack or hard 3D?! Isn't it just a bunch of sensors?! How can they get screwed up by being smacked around?! I mean, its like taking a calculator in your pocket on a Motocross track and it suddenly wouldn't work?!

G

From what I understand of the NAZA GPS receiver it has to be pointing up to work. If you're inverted it isn't going to work.

[neavissa]

Originally Posted by zeeflyboy

Anyway, this thread isn't about the Naza, I was just intending originally to point out to one of the other posters that the Naza is not in fact a direct alternative to the SK720 and lacks a lot of the features that guys here will want (eg advanced bailout, hard deck etc)... but does have a couple of features that the SK appears to currently lack. Different markets imo.

Hey, I am like Jason Bourne, I do nothing without a reason, ha ha. There is a reason why I through the NAZA in my OP. You have to compare the SK to other Systems on the market! If the SK+GPS would cost $8, we wouldn't be having this conversation! It is always about what the other companies bring to the table! Unless of course, they are super cheap an super suck!

I also brought the NAZA up, because I am sure that others were looking at it, as a alternative for the SK as well. So they have done the legwork for me already...

thanks,

G

p.s. how the heck does multiquote work???

[bstanley72]

Originally Posted by zeeflyboy

Yeah it's not the same though... In position hold on SK you can't just fly around and have it hold when you release the sticks

You'd constantly have to flick the switch every time you stop and start.

I don't believe that is what Georgie means. What he is saying is that is one if the options you can program a switch to. So, switch to that mode, then it will behave as you describe. Or flip the switch to another position and use one of the other options.

[neavissa]

Originally Posted by bstanley72

From what I understand of the NAZA GPS receiver it has to be pointing up to work. If you're inverted it isn't going to work.

I would be surprised if that is true?! Almost all GPS receivers nowadays, work even if the signal is bouncing of a building or so... or inside! At least my Samsung Galaxy S3 can do that!

G

[georgi UK]

Originally Posted by neavissa

You are doing Great! As always!!!

G

=] thank you, seriously!

[draeh]

/sidebar

Originally Posted by neavissa

p.s. how the heck does multiquote work???

When you want to quote multiple posts, you select multi-quote for each post you want to quote until the last post. On the last post you pick quote and it will bring up the edit dialog with the quoted post and all the multi-quotes as well.

/sidebar

[georgi UK]

Originally Posted by neavissa

I would be surprised if that is true?! Almost all GPS receivers nowadays, work even if the signal is bouncing of a building or so... or inside! At least my Samsung Galaxy S3 can do that!

G

=] you will not find this, SK are unique in this arena, this is the difference! incredible....

[neavissa]

Originally Posted by gmcallister

=] thank you, seriously!

Anytime...

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