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AZ ChopperCam · 10-01-2008, 12:16 AM

I got some some shots of the upcoming VR360 by PhotoShip One. A "strap on" adapter kit for those who don't want to hard mount the heli to the pano mount. Notice the clean o-ring style attachment. No funky,hardware store, hand tied bungee straps on this rig.

Also a Mini Joker, Trex 600 and Logo 500/600 adapter kit for hard mounting them to the pano mount. E-Raptor 550/620, and heavy duty gasser versions in the works.

I'll be bringing this stuff with me to the conference in October so if you are coming you'll get to put your hands on this stuff and inspect it. If any of you are bringing a helicopter to the conference you'll be able to fly the mounts for yourselves as well.

I know you all want to know price... I just don't know for sure. I'm only the designer. I have nothing to do with pricing but I have put in a strongly worded request that they be sold for less than the current pano mounts. Expect to see something like $499 if they take my advice.

Weight varies on helicopter version but is between 1.8lb and 2.1lb (minus RX and battery). Light and strong.

bullaculla · 10-01-2008, 12:38 AM

I like it DJ. Very light and clean, also the pivot point looks very sturdy with the dual bearing blocks.
great job!

d-bledsoe · 10-01-2008, 02:28 AM

Very nice DJ, its great to see a dedicated 360 pano mount.

Efliernz · 10-01-2008, 05:08 AM

Very nice.
Great to see a mount that is built light for those of us that know how to land!!!

rerazor · 10-01-2008, 07:17 AM

Well designed, can't wait for the release.

doeni · 10-01-2008, 08:35 AM

Looks great.
Will there be a Possibility to just put a camera to it normal, not "Pano-style" or a camcorder? Cause then it would be great, super for Panos and u could do all the rest of the stuff with it...

Daniel

nooob · 10-01-2008, 09:22 AM

rerazor · 10-01-2008, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doeni

Looks great.
Will there be a Possibility to just put a camera to it normal, not "Pano-style" or a camcorder? Cause then it would be great, super for Panos and u could do all the rest of the stuff with it...

Daniel

Yes, from talking to DJ that will be an add on option. They are taking a modular approach.

trackhead · 10-01-2008, 10:01 AM

Beautifully asthetic.

Ruud Westerhout · 10-01-2008, 12:03 PM

Thumbs up !

dviry · 10-01-2008, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AZ ChopperCam

Notice the clean o-ring style attachment. No funky,hardware store, hand tied bungee straps on this rig.

I've personally found the bungee straps to be the best vibrations isolator (even if tedious to setup), so I am wondering how good those o-ring design works out?

AZ ChopperCam · 10-01-2008, 03:59 PM

Good question. Time will tell.

I've always thought of bungees can be a "band-aid" to an improperly setup machine. I've flown video with the camera mount hard mounted to helicopter with that was clean and vibe free. Of course this was with an electric. gassers most likely would benefit from bungees due to the high frequency vibes from the engine.

Of course this conversation is moot for a pano rig as shooting at 1/1000 shutter speed lends itself to doing well even with an improperly set up machine.

I would like mention that I'm being told PhotoShip One will listen to it's customers concerns and criticisms with an open mind and will be willing to make adjustments to founded concerns.

"My way or the highway" is not going to be the motto.

SeaHawk · 10-01-2008, 04:28 PM

can I suggest, from a marketing perspective, you don't refer to it as a 'strap on'

My birthday is coming up and my wife always asks what I want.

makiedog · 10-01-2008, 05:45 PM

Are picture #1-3 a mockup? The "strap-on" seems really flimsy, like they could easily bend. Are picture #4-6 the final metal version of the "strap-on" mock-up? If so, where are the notches into which the o-rings fit.

Did I see a latching mechanism to lock the pan during spool up? If so, how does that work?

rerazor · 10-01-2008, 05:53 PM

I'm pretty sure that is mock up.

One way bearing?

AZ ChopperCam · 10-01-2008, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Will there be a Possibility to just put a camera to it normal, not "Pano-style" or a camcorder?

Yes indeed. The mount is modular in design. Think "IKEA". There will be a kit that will convert the mount from pano to full non stabilized pan tilt. Later another kit will be released with gyro stabilized pan/tilt. There are many extra attachment holes/points on the mount that are currently not utilized but are there for expansion/upgrade kits so that later a customer will not have to upgrade the entire mount to get the latest add-on or upgrade.

Quote:

refer to it as a 'strap on'

LOL you got me laughing over here. That's just what I called it. No telling what the real name will be.

Quote:

Are picture #1-3 a mockup? The "strap-on" seems really flimsy, like they could easily bend.

Yes they are mock ups but extremely rigid. I spanned the assembly across two pieces of 1" aluminum and stood and bounced on it. I weigh 205lb. I didn't dial indicate the flex but I'd guess it flexed less than .060"

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Are picture #4-6 the final metal version of the "strap-on" mock-up?

That is the Mini-Joker conversion. The Mini-Joker is unlike most helicopters in that it has a carbon plate oriented horizontally along the bottom. That assembly you saw in the pics bolts to the bottom of the Mini Joker plate.

AZ ChopperCam · 10-02-2008, 02:23 AM

I did some load testing tonight. I will eventually test this mount to destruction and record the data. This is a static vertical load of 115lb. Even at this weight it's not beginning to yield at all.

Other load tests will induce lateral forces applied at the top while under 115lb load. Eventually this mount will fail and I intend to find out just how much it can take.

Would also like to do drop tests with various loads bolted to the top.

I recall someone mentioning that a gasser would crush this mount. if this is the 1.6mm G10 version and is holding 115lb then imagine what the 3.2mm Carbon "HD" gasser version is going to support? I'm guessing 300lb.

Also consider as you look at the pics... the mount as it is in the pics is exactly 13.3 ounces.

doeni · 10-02-2008, 06:33 AM

so the G10 will be the light mount, and the cf will be the HD-heavy usage mount, right? Will there be a light one made of Cf, i just so like the look of it.

Although, how much is the price difference between the cf and the G10 on.

Must say i really like the concept of beeing able to put on a normal cameraholder (hopefully with full tilt function) and then use it for cams and camcorder, and then switch back to the L-Bracket...

Daniel

rerazor · 10-02-2008, 07:10 AM

So the Romans were right about the arch.

nooob · 10-02-2008, 07:38 AM

Awesome!

You should also test it with the "middle" part... the part that actually mounts to the heli's frame or landing skids.

10-01-2008, 12:16 AM	#1 (permalink)
AZ ChopperCam Registered Users Join Date: May 2006	VR360 spy shots I got some some shots of the upcoming VR360 by PhotoShip One. A "strap on" adapter kit for those who don't want to hard mount the heli to the pano mount. Notice the clean o-ring style attachment. No funky,hardware store, hand tied bungee straps on this rig. Also a Mini Joker, Trex 600 and Logo 500/600 adapter kit for hard mounting them to the pano mount. E-Raptor 550/620, and heavy duty gasser versions in the works. I'll be bringing this stuff with me to the conference in October so if you are coming you'll get to put your hands on this stuff and inspect it. If any of you are bringing a helicopter to the conference you'll be able to fly the mounts for yourselves as well. I know you all want to know price... I just don't know for sure. I'm only the designer. I have nothing to do with pricing but I have put in a strongly worded request that they be sold for less than the current pano mounts. Expect to see something like $499 if they take my advice. Weight varies on helicopter version but is between 1.8lb and 2.1lb (minus RX and battery). Light and strong. __________________ DJ Vegh www.azchoppercam.com Mesa, AZ Last edited by AZ ChopperCam; 10-03-2008 at 07:33 PM..

10-01-2008, 12:38 AM	#2 (permalink)
bullaculla Registered Users Join Date: Nov 2006	I like it DJ. Very light and clean, also the pivot point looks very sturdy with the dual bearing blocks. great job! __________________ T-Rex 600 HFE-stretched to 700, 10s, Tango 45-08, Jazz 55, JR7703D/S8900G, DJ Vegh nose cam mount. T-Rex 600 HFX-stretched to 700, 10s, Orbit 30-12, Jazz 55, GY611/S9256, Askman 360 mount. JR X9303.

10-01-2008, 05:08 AM	#4 (permalink)
Efliernz Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: May 2006	Very nice. Great to see a mount that is built light for those of us that know how to land!!! __________________ Pete Trex600 HC 3A cameraship Trex600 AL GY401, DX7, LV-alarm, Trex700 FBL HC Rigid cameraship DSX9, LV alarm Check out my gallery for my low-volt alarms exported world-wide - http://efliernz.googlepages.com/home

10-01-2008, 03:59 PM	#12 (permalink)
AZ ChopperCam Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: May 2006	Good question. Time will tell. I've always thought of bungees can be a "band-aid" to an improperly setup machine. I've flown video with the camera mount hard mounted to helicopter with that was clean and vibe free. Of course this was with an electric. gassers most likely would benefit from bungees due to the high frequency vibes from the engine. Of course this conversation is moot for a pano rig as shooting at 1/1000 shutter speed lends itself to doing well even with an improperly set up machine. I would like mention that I'm being told PhotoShip One will listen to it's customers concerns and criticisms with an open mind and will be willing to make adjustments to founded concerns. "My way or the highway" is not going to be the motto. __________________ DJ Vegh www.azchoppercam.com Mesa, AZ

10-01-2008, 05:45 PM	#14 (permalink)
makiedog Registered Users Join Date: Jul 2007	Are picture #1-3 a mockup? The "strap-on" seems really flimsy, like they could easily bend. Are picture #4-6 the final metal version of the "strap-on" mock-up? If so, where are the notches into which the o-rings fit. Did I see a latching mechanism to lock the pan during spool up? If so, how does that work? __________________ Pat L

10-01-2008, 02:28 AM	#3 (permalink)
d-bledsoe Join Date: Jun 2006	Very nice DJ, its great to see a dedicated 360 pano mount.

10-01-2008, 07:17 AM	#5 (permalink)
rerazor Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2005	Well designed, can't wait for the release.

10-01-2008, 08:35 AM	#6 (permalink)
doeni Registered Users Join Date: May 2007	Looks great. Will there be a Possibility to just put a camera to it normal, not "Pano-style" or a camcorder? Cause then it would be great, super for Panos and u could do all the rest of the stuff with it... Daniel

10-01-2008, 09:22 AM	#7 (permalink)
nooob Join Date: Jul 2007

10-01-2008, 10:01 AM	#9 (permalink)
trackhead Registered Users Join Date: Nov 2006	Beautifully asthetic.

10-01-2008, 12:03 PM	#10 (permalink)
Ruud Westerhout Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2007	Thumbs up !

10-01-2008, 04:28 PM	#13 (permalink)
SeaHawk Registered Users Join Date: Mar 2005	can I suggest, from a marketing perspective, you don't refer to it as a 'strap on' My birthday is coming up and my wife always asks what I want.

10-01-2008, 05:53 PM	#15 (permalink)
rerazor Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2005	I'm pretty sure that is mock up. One way bearing?

10-02-2008, 02:23 AM	#17 (permalink)
AZ ChopperCam Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: May 2006	I did some load testing tonight. I will eventually test this mount to destruction and record the data. This is a static vertical load of 115lb. Even at this weight it's not beginning to yield at all. Other load tests will induce lateral forces applied at the top while under 115lb load. Eventually this mount will fail and I intend to find out just how much it can take. Would also like to do drop tests with various loads bolted to the top. I recall someone mentioning that a gasser would crush this mount. if this is the 1.6mm G10 version and is holding 115lb then imagine what the 3.2mm Carbon "HD" gasser version is going to support? I'm guessing 300lb. Also consider as you look at the pics... the mount as it is in the pics is exactly 13.3 ounces. __________________ DJ Vegh www.azchoppercam.com Mesa, AZ

10-02-2008, 06:33 AM	#18 (permalink)
doeni Registered Users Join Date: May 2007	so the G10 will be the light mount, and the cf will be the HD-heavy usage mount, right? Will there be a light one made of Cf, i just so like the look of it. Although, how much is the price difference between the cf and the G10 on. Must say i really like the concept of beeing able to put on a normal cameraholder (hopefully with full tilt function) and then use it for cams and camcorder, and then switch back to the L-Bracket... Daniel

10-02-2008, 07:10 AM	#19 (permalink)
rerazor Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2005	So the Romans were right about the arch.

10-02-2008, 07:38 AM	#20 (permalink)
nooob Join Date: Jul 2007	Awesome! You should also test it with the "middle" part... the part that actually mounts to the heli's frame or landing skids.

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