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pjpg · 11-20-2008, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HighFreq

ESC will be available late december.

- 80 Amp
- 4 Amp switching bec
- Governor
- Soft start

Both governor and soft start work

Expected street price 99 Eur

Will you be selling kits that include the new esc? Looking to purchase a kit in Jan.

clay7160 · 11-20-2008, 10:10 PM

i was thinking the same thing..

clay7160 · 11-20-2008, 10:25 PM

hoping a kit will come out in January with motor, esc, and new 10mm blade grips, as well as all the rest of updates...maybe wishful thinking.

HighFreq · 11-21-2008, 08:43 AM

Yes, we will have kits with ESC included in future.

Corrado

clay7160 · 11-24-2008, 12:09 AM

what tail servo where they using with the spartan gyro...

riccardoc · 04-11-2009, 02:44 PM

The link for the Video is not working anymore.
You Guys have another location for the video?

Thanks

ayash · 04-11-2009, 03:05 PM

I still don't get how this flight was done.

12 minutes with 6S/15T pinion?
How did it get to 2100 RPM in the first place?

Seems like the only way to do that is to totally drain (and kill) the pack + the ESC would come out extra hot and wouldn't live through many such flights.

Swashmix · 04-11-2009, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayash

I still don't get how this flight was done.

12 minutes with 6S/15T pinion?

I'd be curious to know the throttle and pitch curve combination also. Must play a part in the long flight time.

Roadrune · 04-12-2009, 05:14 AM

I did ask Corrado early in this thread how much Amps they put back on that LiPo, i never got an answer....

Fifon · 04-14-2009, 03:12 PM

This is the new link :
http://ftp.msheli.com/Video/12_Min_video.wmv

kitsched · 04-16-2009, 07:04 AM

Thanks for the updated link. It's nice to see that there are others on my level and Italian chit-chat is always entertaining.

Fifon · 04-17-2009, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kitsched

Thanks for the updated link. It's nice to see that there are others on my level and Italian chit-chat is always entertaining.

I'm not using heli for 3D but for FPV and aerial photo so I need to stay cool in flight

straesso · 01-02-2010, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HighFreq

We shot a 12 Minute flight (on one 6S 2500 battery) to show that Protos can be setup for beginner/sport flying with no probs at all.

Stock motor
Desire Power Battery 2500 25C 6S
MSH 80 ESC
Head speed 2100

corrado

If this is a serious information, a minimum of 20% battery power must be available after the 12 minute flight.

Why do you not answer the raised questions:

- which pinion was used for the flight?
- how much battery power was available after the 12 min. flight?

Additional question: was governer mode used? 90, 95 or 100%?

Straesso

drdispatch · 02-08-2010, 04:13 PM

Yes, what pinion?

straesso · 02-16-2010, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HighFreq

We shot a 12 Minute flight (on one 6S 2500 battery) to show that Protos can be setup for beginner/sport flying with no probs at all.

Stock motor
Desire Power Battery 2500 25C 6S
MSH 80 ESC
Head speed 2100

I did some first testflights with my Protos 500 (carbon frame). My intention was to check settings for "long" park flight. Here are my results:

Stock motor
LiPo Battery 2650 30C 6S
Robbe Roxxy, govenor mode used (gas curve 60 on Futaba FF-10)
Head speed 2300
14T Pinion

Flight time in average is 8,5 minutes. Outside temperature was very cold (-1 C / 30.0 F), temperature of battery at start time 21 C / 70.0 F. Remaining battery capacity after 8.5 minutes was 20%. May be, flight time could be increased a little bit at higher outside temperature.

Regards Olaf

popokatepetl · 02-17-2010, 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by straesso

I did some first testflights with my Protos 500 (carbon frame). My intention was to check settings for "long" park flight. Here are my results:

Stock motor
LiPo Battery 2650 30C 6S
Robbe Roxxy, govenor mode used (gas curve 60 on Futaba FF-10)
Head speed 2300
14T Pinion

Flight time in average is 8,5 minutes. Outside temperature was very cold (-1 C / 30.0 F), temperature of battery at start time 21 C / 70.0 F. Remaining battery capacity after 8.5 minutes was 20%. May be, flight time could be increased a little bit at higher outside temperature.

Regards Olaf

Use pinion 12t and rise the throtle. It's not really efficient when you have 60% only!!!

You will see the time difference... and let me know

straesso · 02-18-2010, 12:50 PM

I know, that 60% is not very efficient. Therefore i start the motor with 75% and switch to 60% just before take off. Nevertheless I ordered a 12T Pinion yesterday and will do additional testing as soon as possible...

popokatepetl · 02-18-2010, 01:10 PM

... and let us now the progress. Protos is very light so you don't need so high RPM like with any other 500

I like it very much...

straesso · 02-18-2010, 01:27 PM

I was very disappointed about the bad quality of the kit. But now, after solving all the problems, it is a really good looking helicopter - and very quiet. For me, a flight time of 8,5 minutes is fine - more than i can do with a T-REX 500. But now i'm interested to see, whether it could be enhanced. I don't belive in 12 minutes flight time.

Where do you come from, popokatepetl? What is your Protos 500 setup and experience?

popokatepetl · 02-18-2010, 01:44 PM

I'm from EU

I also have some issues with the Protos quality which should be improved. But overall I really love it.

My setup:
SAVOX SH-1250MG (swash)
SAVOX SH-1290MG (tail)
Radix 430mm
GyroBot 700
Kontronik JIVE 60+ LV
6S Hyperion G3 2600mAh (35C)
motor MVVS 6,5 cm3 (910KV) but I'll switch it to stronger one 8 cm3(950KV)

...and some infinity hobby CNC upgrades

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11-20-2008, 10:10 PM	#22 (permalink)
clay7160 Join Date: Nov 2008	i was thinking the same thing..

11-20-2008, 10:25 PM	#23 (permalink)
clay7160 Join Date: Nov 2008	hoping a kit will come out in January with motor, esc, and new 10mm blade grips, as well as all the rest of updates...maybe wishful thinking.

11-24-2008, 12:09 AM	#25 (permalink)
clay7160 Join Date: Nov 2008	what tail servo where they using with the spartan gyro...

04-11-2009, 02:44 PM	#26 (permalink)
riccardoc Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Dec 2008	The link for the Video is not working anymore. You Guys have another location for the video? Thanks

04-11-2009, 03:05 PM	#27 (permalink)
ayash Registered Users Join Date: Jul 2008	I still don't get how this flight was done. 12 minutes with 6S/15T pinion? How did it get to 2100 RPM in the first place? Seems like the only way to do that is to totally drain (and kill) the pack + the ESC would come out extra hot and wouldn't live through many such flights.

04-14-2009, 03:12 PM	#30 (permalink)
Fifon Join Date: Oct 2007	This is the new link : http://ftp.msheli.com/Video/12_Min_video.wmv

02-18-2010, 12:50 PM	#37 (permalink)
straesso Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2009	I know, that 60% is not very efficient. Therefore i start the motor with 75% and switch to 60% just before take off. Nevertheless I ordered a 12T Pinion yesterday and will do additional testing as soon as possible...

02-18-2010, 01:10 PM	#38 (permalink)
popokatepetl BD Forum Support Join Date: Oct 2008	... and let us now the progress. Protos is very light so you don't need so high RPM like with any other 500 I like it very much...

02-18-2010, 01:27 PM	#39 (permalink)
straesso Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2009	I was very disappointed about the bad quality of the kit. But now, after solving all the problems, it is a really good looking helicopter - and very quiet. For me, a flight time of 8,5 minutes is fine - more than i can do with a T-REX 500. But now i'm interested to see, whether it could be enhanced. I don't belive in 12 minutes flight time. Where do you come from, popokatepetl? What is your Protos 500 setup and experience?

02-18-2010, 01:44 PM	#40 (permalink)
popokatepetl BD Forum Support Join Date: Oct 2008	I'm from EU I also have some issues with the Protos quality which should be improved. But overall I really love it. My setup: SAVOX SH-1250MG (swash) SAVOX SH-1290MG (tail) Radix 430mm GyroBot 700 Kontronik JIVE 60+ LV 6S Hyperion G3 2600mAh (35C) motor MVVS 6,5 cm3 (910KV) but I'll switch it to stronger one 8 cm3(950KV) ...and some infinity hobby CNC upgrades

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