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03-30-2010, 04:41 PM | #21 (permalink) | |
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OICU812,
What head are you using? also, Quote:
I am on 16.3 out on the 4-point arm with the stock conversion head and I am getting much larger throws (72 give me 13.5 degrees) and much smaller cyclic ring (60) and gain (85).
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03-30-2010, 04:53 PM | #22 (permalink) |
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Stock head is what I had and 5065mg servos are you running same servos? With my advanced file settings nothng was touching, binding etc.
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03-30-2010, 04:55 PM | #23 (permalink) |
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you are running 5065's? or 9650's..
I am running 9650's. Also, are you sure you are using the 6-point arm at 16.3 out?
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03-30-2010, 06:02 PM | #24 (permalink) |
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I'm sure of distance as I measured when I did the post and yes 9650 as first post mentions. I don't have heli anymore to look at which horn but that's the distance and with those servos it was perfectly fine with my file here yes.
***EDITED** YES I am running 9650 servos on Protos.
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03-30-2010, 06:21 PM | #25 (permalink) |
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FYI, your first post says you used 9650 servos.
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03-30-2010, 06:34 PM | #26 (permalink) |
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OOOps! Sorry getting my 450 Pro thread and this mixed up, so sorry!!! YES I was running 9650 Futaba servos!
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03-30-2010, 07:49 PM | #27 (permalink) |
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Thanks for posting up all the info though. I definitely plan to try your settings once I get the Protos back together after the tail spontaneously disassembled itself a couple hundred feet up. My previous setup was just nowhere near as precise as I wanted it to be, so I hope this will guide me down the right path.
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05-29-2010, 04:16 PM | #28 (permalink) |
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CF kit
Standard vbar unit w/satelite rx MHS fbl head conversion Futaba 9650's (16.5mm servo arm) Futaba BLS251 (14mm servo arm) CC ICE lite 75A ESC Scorpion 3026-880kv (15t pinion) 6s Turnigy 20c 2650's Sab 430's Stock tail Running: Collective: +/-12.5 degrees Headspeed: 2500, 2600, 2800 Head Geometry: (to center) Blade Grips = 25mm A = 27mm B = 15mm Common ratio = .56 Collective ratio = .15 Cyclic ratio = .08
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06-17-2010, 05:34 AM | #29 (permalink) | |
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Hello,
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08-13-2010, 03:09 PM | #30 (permalink) |
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Anyone can post a VBar V5.0 file for the Protos?
Thank you.
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08-14-2010, 02:27 PM | #31 (permalink) |
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Here you go...
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08-16-2010, 07:33 AM | #32 (permalink) |
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Skookum sk-720
Here is my setup with the sk-720, flying sports and basic aerobatics.
Cyclic servo's DS510 Tail servo futabla 9257 Using the default setting preload with the following changes. Cyclic Tx gain 55% Tail Tx gain 32% Rate gain 60% HH gain 75% //Dennis
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08-17-2010, 01:27 PM | #33 (permalink) |
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Where are you guys mounting your Mini Vbar on the Protos? Top shelf? Below the main shaft? Pics?
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08-18-2010, 08:45 PM | #34 (permalink) |
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Total-G config:
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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?> <TotalG> <FlightControl> <Radio_Type>Spektrum</Radio_Type> <FC_Gain_Channel>Aux3</FC_Gain_Channel> <Gyro_Gain_Channel>Aux2</Gyro_Gain_Channel> <Gov_Channel>Off</Gov_Channel> <Auto_Trim_Switch_Channel>Aux4</Auto_Trim_Switch_Channel> <Aux_A_Channel>NA Aux5</Aux_A_Channel> <Aux_B_Channel>NA Aux6</Aux_B_Channel> <Max_Gain>65</Max_Gain> <Swashplate_Mode>120 CCPM</Swashplate_Mode> <Ail_Servo_Direction>Normal</Ail_Servo_Direction> <Col_Servo_Direction>Reverse</Col_Servo_Direction> <Elev_Servo_Direction>Normal</Elev_Servo_Direction> <Ail_Servo_Neutral>-10</Ail_Servo_Neutral> <Col_Servo_Neutral>12</Col_Servo_Neutral> <Elev_Servo_Neutral>-3</Elev_Servo_Neutral> <Orientation>HorzBckFrnt</Orientation> <Roll_Gyro_Direction>Reverse</Roll_Gyro_Direction> <Flip_Gyro_Direction>Normal</Flip_Gyro_Direction> <Auto_Trim>Off</Auto_Trim> <Trim_Lock>Throttle</Trim_Lock> <Piro_Comp_Type>Mix</Piro_Comp_Type> <Ail_Input_Multiplier>40</Ail_Input_Multiplier> <Col_Input_Multiplier>45</Col_Input_Multiplier> <Elev_Input_Multiplier>40</Elev_Input_Multiplier> <Right_Roll_Stop>33</Right_Roll_Stop> <Left_Roll_Stop>33</Left_Roll_Stop> <Forward_Flip_Stop>33</Forward_Flip_Stop> <Back_Flip_Stop>33</Back_Flip_Stop> <Left_Ail_TR_Mix>0</Left_Ail_TR_Mix> <Left_Elev_TR_Mix>0</Left_Elev_TR_Mix> <Right_Ail_TR_Mix>0</Right_Ail_TR_Mix> <Right_Elev_TR_Mix>0</Right_Elev_TR_Mix> <Elev_To_Ail_Mix>0</Elev_To_Ail_Mix> <Ail_To_Elev_Mix>0</Ail_To_Elev_Mix> <Expo>30</Expo> <Col_Pitch_Direction>Neg Pitch</Col_Pitch_Direction> <Ail_Level_Pos>100</Ail_Level_Pos> <Col_Level_Pos>100</Col_Level_Pos> <Elev_Level_Pos>100</Elev_Level_Pos> <Ail_Level_Neg>100</Ail_Level_Neg> <Col_Level_Neg>100</Col_Level_Neg> <Elev_Level_Neg>100</Elev_Level_Neg> <Hidden_Heading_Mode>Automatic</Hidden_Heading_Mode> <Hidden_Expo_Width>100</Hidden_Expo_Width> <Hidden_Hd_Off_RPM>80</Hidden_Hd_Off_RPM> <Hidden_Hd_On_RPM>145</Hidden_Hd_On_RPM> <Hidden_Delay>35</Hidden_Delay> <Hidden_Decay_Secs>5</Hidden_Decay_Secs> <Hidden_TRmLThrt_Th>30</Hidden_TRmLThrt_Th> <Hidden_Pir_Out_dTR>120</Hidden_Pir_Out_dTR> <Hidden_Roll_Speed>33</Hidden_Roll_Speed> <Hidden_Roll_Rate_Gain>6</Hidden_Roll_Rate_Gain> <Hidden_Roll_Head_Gain>20</Hidden_Roll_Head_Gain> <Hidden_Roll_Head_Limit>80</Hidden_Roll_Head_Limit> <Hidden_Flip_Speed>33</Hidden_Flip_Speed> <Hidden_Flip_Rate_Gain>7</Hidden_Flip_Rate_Gain> <Hidden_Flip_Head_Gain>20</Hidden_Flip_Head_Gain> <Hidden_Flip_Head_Limit>80</Hidden_Flip_Head_Limit> <Hidden_PirMix>Collective</Hidden_PirMix> </FlightControl> </TotalG> |
09-08-2010, 09:39 AM | #36 (permalink) |
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Microbeast
Here's my Microbeast setting:
swash servos: SAVOX SH-1250 (horn 16mm) tail servo: SAVOX SH-1290 (horn 10mm) BEC: 6V Par C: red Par D: red Pot1: 9 hrs Pot2: 12hrs Pot3: 9hrs Tail gain: H Main blades: MS Champion 430mm Head speed: 2700 RPM Pitch: +-12° |
08-27-2011, 06:42 AM | #37 (permalink) |
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MSH Protos Carbon:
- SAB Blades - Beastx Microbeast v3 - 3x Futaba S9650 - 1x Futaba S9254 - YGE 60A ESC - Scorpion 880kV |
08-28-2011, 08:26 AM | #38 (permalink) |
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I have the new swash driver parts on my FBL Protos and I'm trying to set it up. The BeastX instructions say to level the swash driver arms (just as one would do when setting up a FB heli), however, it looks like swash would have to get really high before the driver arms are level.
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08-28-2011, 09:00 AM | #39 (permalink) |
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Forget leveling the arms. That is different from heli to heli.
Protos doesn't have the arms level at 0º pitch, so you can't go that way. Just put hte links at the recommended lenght and level the swash.
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08-28-2011, 10:57 AM | #40 (permalink) |
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So the arms of the new and improved MSH swash driver don't level at zero pitch? That's a little disappointing. No, it won't make or break the system but I would argue that it should be level at zero pitch. If it's not then throws will be uneven at full deflection. This could lead to out of phase conditions at extremes which could show up as off axis piros, flips, rolls and loops. Watch for these and please let us know if you're experiencing any of it.
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