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05-02-2009, 11:31 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Chris, the frame of the king 2 is a plastic basic one I am upgrading the frame and tail gear to alloy when I can get the ready's. I do have a hobbywing programing card but that doesn't work either, all it does is light up and the lights stay fixed. Maybe I've fried the esc I don't know,but the servo's work fine the esc gets warm. I know powers going into it. What I'm thinking is a setting on the tx is wrong and the esc has gone into safe mode maybe, If you or someone reading this has any knowledge of the sanwa RD6000 sport please get back to me as I am banging my head against the wall trying to get my head around it
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05-02-2009, 11:32 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Michigan, slightly Northeast of Hell
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Phasing
Hi,
I think this is my first post here. This one site has been the best thing for my exploration of the RC Helicopter hobby. Thank you to everyone associated! I've read most of the threads here, but one thing perplexes me as I progress. Phasing. I realize it has to do with how the swashplate and the head interact and is adjustable in a lot of helicopters (mine included, a Black Hawk 500), and that it affects how the cyclic works. What I don't know is how phasing affects cyclic in terms of direction the helicopter moves? The manual for my helicopter is very poor with respect to setup so I've learned has come from this site and the wonderful work done by Finless and others. So, it comes down to phasing. My manual shows the head screw aligned with a nub on the antirotation collar/phasing ring, and I've done that. What would be the effects, either positive or negative should I play with the position of the antirotation collar/phasing ring? Thanks in advance! Scott |
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05-03-2009, 05:57 AM
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05-03-2009, 08:26 AM
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Newbe:
Are you sure that you have the ESC plugged into the throttle channel? The Rx can be powered from any of the slots, but it won't send any signals to the ESC unless it's plugged into the right one. dunkonu: Phasing refers to the indexing of the rotor head in relation to the swashplate. If everything is set up correctly, there will be no interaction on the cyclic controls. If something's off, there will be some interaction between AIL/ELE. Sometimes, even the characteristics of one set of blades vs. another may alter the phasing slightly, this is why it's adjustable on some helis. If your model tends to pitch up or down during a roll, or tends to roll to one side during a flip, you may have to adjust this. |
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05-03-2009, 10:38 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Yes I have been plugging the esc into the right channel 3, I will try and explain the problem. I bought an Esky Honey Bee king 2 kit a few months ago and it came with the standard brushed motor with it so the initial build was straight forward, all I had to get was an esc which I bought the small esky one for the king2. My tx setup is a sanwa RD6000 sport and the 8 channel rx came with it. The first and only time everything worked was when I did a power test to see if everthing was fine, I had the heli powering up fine then the power started to die.
I thought it was the battery that needed charging so I charged the battery, so when I connected everything back up there was nothing and that is how it has been ever since. On the advice of some of you nice people on here I bought an outrunner brushless motor and 30a pentium esc combo and fitted it to the heli. I soldered gold 3mm bullet connectors to the leads of the esc and motor as these seem to be the best connectors to use and the most common used by yourselves. Now this is as far as I have got, the servo's work fine and that is all that works, so you can understand why I am a bit frustrated. I checked the standard brushed motor seperately and it powers up fine, I am still trying to get my head around the setting up of my tx, if there is anybody who knows how to setup an RD6000 sport please get back to me. Duncan  |
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05-20-2009, 01:27 AM
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05-20-2009, 01:00 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Michigan, slightly Northeast of Hell
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Trimming out
This may be a dumb question, but here goes.
I don't like to use transmitter trims and I haven't in my short time with helicopters. I keep watching the videos and keep hearing the phrase, "trimmed out". Assuming the helicopter's main rotors are set for zero pitch at 50% throttle during mechanical setup, does trimming out mean using mechanical adjustments such as blade tracking, tail pitch, etc? Or does it mean transmitter adjustments such as pitch/throttle curves, expo, gyro gain, or even channel trims? All of the above? I'm just wondering. Thanks in advance, Scott, Last edited by dunkonu23; 05-25-2009 at 08:58 AM.. |
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05-25-2009, 08:05 AM
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blade 400
why is there not a blade 400 under the helis list
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05-25-2009, 06:03 PM
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dunkonu23: usually it refers to the trims on the sticks, bottom line is with this stuff is you mechanically setup the heli. This is making sure the swash and servo arms are at 90 degrees (or horizontal), and that the swash is level. One caveat to this is that you may need to use sub-trim to get all the servo arms level.
bbq4goodHeli: i would say the reason is, that it is an RTF, and therefore doesnt need a build thread about it. |
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05-26-2009, 12:01 AM
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Thanks for the reply! Scott |
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06-06-2009, 08:50 AM
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Video request: tail blade pitch 101. Adjusting the tail servo on the boom, getting 90s on control arms, etc. A short bit of video demonstrating out-of-tune and in-tune tails would be great as well. It's not all about the gyro.
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06-07-2009, 04:45 PM
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well the way i do is to put the gyro in rate mode. center the pitch slider. check the end points of the slider. pop her in the air. if no drift switch to HH. all is good THEN.
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06-08-2009, 08:37 AM
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Some gyros will work fine in HH with a centered tail (0*) and 90* servo arm, but it will work much better when trimmed in rate like I described above.
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06-18-2009, 09:26 PM
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 This forum and section of threads are all lifesavers. I have never previously owned an RC helicopter but now due to this site, had the courage to buy my first one ( a Trex 450 SE ) and DX7 radio system and with the help of this forum and the wonderful setup videos from Finless Bob White and others here, managed to build it, set it up, tune it, tune the radio and had my first flight today with no mishaps. The TRex450SE flew almost perfectly with just a minor trim here and there due to the 10 knot winds I had to contend with. But I flew two packs thru her today and have these wonderful life saving forums to thank for it! THANK-YOU! The other thing that helped for any newcomers reading this, is to get the RC simulator for your home computer... it will save you tons of money as you will need to acquaint yourself to flying tail in, nose in, sideways, etc. Pretty much a must-have. Thanks again for your wonderful series of videos as they are the best ever! |
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06-23-2009, 01:37 AM
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Hi guys, would you mind to provide me the link to the Finless video on JR 770 3D gyro setup? I did search few times and found only the overview. Thanks for your help!!!
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06-23-2009, 07:03 AM
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LOOK at the first post of this thread under gyros... It's there. Let me know if yout still having trouble finding it.
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06-23-2009, 07:41 AM
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06-23-2009, 11:25 AM
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06-24-2009, 06:50 PM
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Dazed and confused AGAIN!
Well I got it right last time but after my last spectacular "landing" I had to do a rebuild. For some reason I cannot get my head/CCPM working properly. At this stage all is pretty good except for my Elev., that servo will not move full throw regardless of end-point setting (in fact EP barely effects this one servo). When looking at radio Monitor I see that it also stops at about mid point on the display. I've played around with all settings until I got it royally screwed up and don't have my original setting either
 . The specifics: Trex 450 V2, Spectrum S75 servos, Dx6i radio. Swash mix: Aile: -50%, Elev: +50%, Pitch -50%; All servos set at Norm. except Elev. and Pitch are reversed. All controls move in the right direction and it seems the main issue is not enough travel on the Elev. servo as it stops as the other 2 keep moving as they should. Any help?? |
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