Fun, Learning, Friendship and Mutual Respect START  HERE


Unregistered
Go Back   HeliFreak > R/C Helicopters > Helicopter Safety


Helicopter Safety R/C Helicopter Safety


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-09-2009, 07:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
HF Support
 
Posts: 33,560
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: May 2006
Default RWMAA Top 10 safety rules for building and flying helis

Many have asked for some guidelines for safety for helis so the RWMAA drafted a set of
rules to help protect the heli community.

Hope these rules save you from a few stitches or worse.



The Thing About Spinning Blades …
  • Lawn mowers are dangerous.
  • Brush Hogs are dangerous.
  • Rotary Wing Model Aircraft are dangerous.
- All can be used safely if you understand the risks and treat them with the respect they deserve.

Heavier Blades Hit Harder
  • A lawnmower can cut grass and weeds.
  • A brush hog can cut weeds and small trees.
  • The more mass a blade has, the more damage it can do.
  • Large helicopters with heavier blades can potentially do more damage than smaller helicopters.
- But … even a small 250 size helicopter can kill or do permanent harm to pilots and bystanders

The Buck Stops with the Pilot …
  • You can blame the manufacturer.
  • You can blame the dog owner.
  • You can blame the dumb kid.
  • You can blame the TV reporter.
-If your helicopter hurts anyone or anything, it is most likely your fault.
-And … you are the one that will most likely get hurt.

Know the Risks
  • Use common sense and follow these basic safety rules as outlined on the following paragraphs:
- Top 10 Safety Rules for Building
- Top 10 Safety Rules for Flying


Top 10 Safety Rules for Building
  1. Always isolate (e.g. with heatshrink or tape) each LiPo wire while soldering on the other one to avoid a short circuit.
  2. Verify your transmitter is on, the right model is selected, and throttle-hold is on prior to powering up the aircraft. Make sure the throttle is a position that gives zero or slightly negative pitch to your blades.
  3. Program your ESC to “Soft Start” to give yourself time to react should the throttle be accidentally turned on.
  4. Leave your motor wires detached while setting up the cyclic servos, gyro and tail servo. Remove main blades when first powering up your motor.
    • Verify correct movement of all controls.
    • Get help from an experienced pilot if you are not sure how.
  5. Avoid tying your aircraft down for powered testing.
  6. Use braid, rubber, or something similar to protect wiring from shorting against the frame.
  7. Never connect your LiPo to the frame without using a current limiting resistor or equivalent.
  8. Use high quality parts and best practice component placement to assure interference free operation.
    • Use transmitters/receivers designed to minimize interference.
    • Isolate high current noisy components (Main Battery, ESC, and motor) from low current parts (Antenna, Battery, gyro, gyro controller, and receiver).
  9. Always use threadlock on all metal to metal screws and CA on metal to plastic screws.
  10. Never hold your aircraft with your hands while spun up (e.g. while tracking).

Top 10 Safety Rules for Flying
  1. Verify your transmitter is on, the right model is selected, and throttle-hold is on prior to powering up the aircraft.
  2. Always range check your transmitter and receiver after new builds and crashes.
  3. Always perform a preflight inspection of the entire helicopter and perform regular maintenance.
  4. Always keep at least 20 feet from any spun up aircraft (30 feet or more for a larger helicopters).
    • This precludes flying indoors unless in a huge area.
    • This precludes crawling under your aircraft to remove power.
    • This precludes launching or touching a flying aircraft.
  5. Always fly within your knowledge level by learning new moves on a simulator.
  6. Avoid flying alone and having a spotter is recommended
  7. Always know where all bystanders and animals are and never fly within 65 feet of anywhere you think they could end up (land if necessary).
  8. Never fly over roads, near power lines, over your head, behind you or over water unless you have floats.
  9. Know how to kill your engine (Throttle Hold on electric, choke on a Gasser, pulled fuel line on a Nitro).
  10. Always have access to a first aid kit, a phone, and a CO2 fire extinguisher for Turbines.

Summary
  • RC Aircraft are potentially dangerous and must be treated with proper respect
  • The risks can be minimized by using common sense and following basic safety rules
- However, this rule set not exhaustive and is not intended to be. Use your best judgment always.

Good luck and fly safely!
RWMAA


2022 Update: This was written with the smallest heli being a 250 size. With todays Micros having become so flightworthy and having less mass, some of these rules can be relaxed but keep the intent in mind. Happy flying!


Rick
__________________
Helifreak, the place to be!
Oxy5 w/Brain2, Rush 750 w/VBAR,Logo 400SE, 600SE w/NEOs, TREX 450SE, 500, 600, Blade mCPX,130X, 180CFX, Nano QX, Convergence VTOL, MiniProtos w/BD3SX
My products, used by top pilots worldwide, like you! http://rdlohr.com

Last edited by rdlohr; 04-02-2022 at 10:09 AM..
rdlohr is online now        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 06-09-2009, 07:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
HF Support
 
Posts: 4,885
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: May 2007
Default

Very well said and nicely put together !

............ and I have the scars to prove it !
__________________
Sponsored by Visa/MasterCard / Team Budweiser / Trojan Field Rep
Donut Connoisseur

HELI-FREAK, You couldn't have picked a better place to land !
ChasHeliCop is offline        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 03-14-2010, 03:10 PM   #3 (permalink)
Registered Users
 
Posts: 126
 

Join Date: Mar 2010
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChasHeliCop View Post
Very well said and nicely put together !

............ and I have the scars to prove it !
I second that....
Kalin1210 is offline        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 03-14-2010, 05:24 PM   #4 (permalink)
HF Support
 
Posts: 33,560
Thread Starter Thread Starter
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: May 2006
Default

Thanks Kalin. These have pretty much all been written in blood by someone just like you and me.

Rick
__________________
Helifreak, the place to be!
Oxy5 w/Brain2, Rush 750 w/VBAR,Logo 400SE, 600SE w/NEOs, TREX 450SE, 500, 600, Blade mCPX,130X, 180CFX, Nano QX, Convergence VTOL, MiniProtos w/BD3SX
My products, used by top pilots worldwide, like you! http://rdlohr.com
rdlohr is online now        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 08-27-2010, 08:39 AM   #5 (permalink)
Registered Users
 

Join Date: Jun 2010
Default

good thank
vectororange is offline        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-21-2010, 06:07 AM   #6 (permalink)
Registered Users
 

Join Date: Jan 2009
Default Throttle hold Q

I am a noob and I know it. Noob question:

Where should I set the throttle hold button and the throttle hold toggle switch on my dx6i transmitter?

Aside from zero throttle, what is the safest way to power up the Heli?

Thanks!
pastorJohn is offline        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-25-2010, 07:09 PM   #7 (permalink)
HF Support
 
Posts: 33,560
Thread Starter Thread Starter
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: May 2006
Default

I start out with throttle hold on, normal mode, and the throttle clear down.

Once the I am ready to take off:
1) Throttle hold off
2) Then advance throttle.

Rick
__________________
Helifreak, the place to be!
Oxy5 w/Brain2, Rush 750 w/VBAR,Logo 400SE, 600SE w/NEOs, TREX 450SE, 500, 600, Blade mCPX,130X, 180CFX, Nano QX, Convergence VTOL, MiniProtos w/BD3SX
My products, used by top pilots worldwide, like you! http://rdlohr.com
rdlohr is online now        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-11-2011, 08:38 PM   #8 (permalink)
Registered Users
 
Posts: 1,731
 

Join Date: Feb 2011
Default I beg to differ.............

The Buck Stops with the Pilot …
  • You can blame the manufacturer.
  • You can blame the dog owner.
  • You can blame the dumb kid.
  • You can blame the TV reporter.
-If your helicopter hurts anyone or anything, it is your fault.
-And … you are the one that will most likely get hurt.

Why is it automatically the pilot's fault? This sounds like one of those politically correct, zero tolerance, non thinkng statements so common in today's society. I can think of any number of scenarios where it would not be the pilot's fault. How about a simpler rule? Let's blame whoever should reasonably be held to blame given the circumstances? Which I agree, would typically be the pilot. But just to say its always the pilot's fault is absurd.
tworst is offline        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-11-2011, 10:23 PM   #9 (permalink)
Member
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: Dec 2008
Default

Someone will be held responsible for injury or damage. Like it or not, that responsibility will fall into the pilot's lap.
__________________
):>
Bob O is offline        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-11-2011, 10:31 PM   #10 (permalink)
HF Support
 
Posts: 33,560
Thread Starter Thread Starter
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: May 2006
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tworst View Post
The Buck Stops with the Pilot …
  • You can blame the manufacturer.
  • You can blame the dog owner.
  • You can blame the dumb kid.
  • You can blame the TV reporter.
-If your helicopter hurts anyone or anything, it is your fault.
-And … you are the one that will most likely get hurt.

Why is it automatically the pilot's fault? This sounds like one of those politically correct, zero tolerance, non thinkng statements so common in today's society. I can think of any number of scenarios where it would not be the pilot's fault. How about a simpler rule? Let's blame whoever should reasonably be held to blame given the circumstances? Which I agree, would typically be the pilot. But just to say its always the pilot's fault is absurd.
Most times it will boil down to a decision the pilot made such as where he chose to fly, what parts he chose to build with, and who he chose to fly near. I agree that its possible that someone else could be at fault, but for a set of guidelines, I thought it better to stress that the pilot is responsible to encourage him to make safe decisions. I added the words "most likely" since it still meets my intent and makes it more correct. As far as "politically correct, zero tolerance, non thinkng", I did my best to put something in place to help people. So far I have gotten mostly "Thank you"s for that effort.
Rick
__________________
Helifreak, the place to be!
Oxy5 w/Brain2, Rush 750 w/VBAR,Logo 400SE, 600SE w/NEOs, TREX 450SE, 500, 600, Blade mCPX,130X, 180CFX, Nano QX, Convergence VTOL, MiniProtos w/BD3SX
My products, used by top pilots worldwide, like you! http://rdlohr.com
rdlohr is online now        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-12-2011, 06:39 AM   #11 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Posts: 42,760
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: Mar 2004
Default

An R/C Heli does not get itself to somewhere to fly and then fly itself. People don't sue a heli and helis don't get involved in accidents if they can't get to the field themselves or fly themselves.

It has nothing to do with political correctness.
__________________
William James
Crazy wife still trying to kill me.
WillJames is offline        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-12-2011, 12:37 PM   #12 (permalink)
Registered Users
 
Posts: 1,731
 

Join Date: Feb 2011
Default Sorry Rodlohr

I thought this was directly from RWMAA. And I do appreciate the efforts of you and others to post safety guidelines and tips on this forum. Its just a pet peve of mine when things are stated in absolute black and white terms when in reality almost nothing is. If I had know this was your comment, I would have asked you about it first and maybe recommend a change to the wording. I think adding "most likely" still conveys the message that the pilot ordinarily has responsibility and should be aware of it.
tworst is offline        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-12-2011, 05:25 PM   #13 (permalink)
Registered Users
 
Posts: 1,731
 

Join Date: Feb 2011
Default Still beg to differ.............

Perhaps political correctness was the wrong term to use here. But I still find a statement like "the pilot is always at fault" as a bit over the top. I know what the intent of the statement is, to impress on pilots their broad (but not infinite)responsibility and I agree with that. But surely there are occasions when its not the pilot's fault. Its not a matter of what I like or not, its a matter of what the circumstances are and applicable laws.
tworst is offline        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-12-2011, 06:31 PM   #14 (permalink)
HF Support
 
Posts: 33,560
Thread Starter Thread Starter
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: May 2006
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tworst View Post
I thought this was directly from RWMAA. And I do appreciate the efforts of you and others to post safety guidelines and tips on this forum. Its just a pet peve of mine when things are stated in absolute black and white terms when in reality almost nothing is. If I had know this was your comment, I would have asked you about it first and maybe recommend a change to the wording. I think adding "most likely" still conveys the message that the pilot ordinarily has responsibility and should be aware of it.
No worries. I wrote this when I was with the RWMAA.

Quote:
Originally Posted by tworst View Post
Perhaps political correctness was the wrong term to use here. But I still find a statement like "the pilot is always at fault" as a bit over the top. I know what the intent of the statement is, to impress on pilots their broad (but not infinite)responsibility and I agree with that. But surely there are occasions when its not the pilot's fault. Its not a matter of what I like or not, its a matter of what the circumstances are and applicable laws.
Where Will and I are coming from is that we have often seen guys blame every one else while not accepting that they set the stage for the accident. There are exceptions to every rule that are usually not written in an effort to keep things concise and to the point. I'm however fine with how this ended up.

Rick
__________________
Helifreak, the place to be!
Oxy5 w/Brain2, Rush 750 w/VBAR,Logo 400SE, 600SE w/NEOs, TREX 450SE, 500, 600, Blade mCPX,130X, 180CFX, Nano QX, Convergence VTOL, MiniProtos w/BD3SX
My products, used by top pilots worldwide, like you! http://rdlohr.com
rdlohr is online now        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-17-2011, 02:12 AM   #15 (permalink)
Registered Users
 
Posts: 665
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: Jul 2011
Default

I appreciate the safety tips. As a new pilot, I've been refining my checklist to include everything that I can think of for my pre-flights, and a general awareness of safety in general. I've had three crashes so far and all of them were my own fault. No injuries though, and I want it to stay that way for myself and anyone around me.
__________________


onlyfinehelis.com
mmickels is offline        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-17-2011, 09:44 AM   #16 (permalink)
HF Support
 
Posts: 33,560
Thread Starter Thread Starter
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: May 2006
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mmickels View Post
I appreciate the safety tips. As a new pilot, I've been refining my checklist to include everything that I can think of for my pre-flights, and a general awareness of safety in general. I've had three crashes so far and all of them were my own fault. No injuries though, and I want it to stay that way for myself and anyone around me.


Good luck to you. You're gonna love it!
Rick
__________________
Helifreak, the place to be!
Oxy5 w/Brain2, Rush 750 w/VBAR,Logo 400SE, 600SE w/NEOs, TREX 450SE, 500, 600, Blade mCPX,130X, 180CFX, Nano QX, Convergence VTOL, MiniProtos w/BD3SX
My products, used by top pilots worldwide, like you! http://rdlohr.com
rdlohr is online now        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-31-2012, 01:14 AM   #17 (permalink)
Registered Users
 

Join Date: Oct 2012
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rdlohr View Post

Top 10 Safety Rules for Building

Avoid tying your aircraft down for powered testing.

Rick
I haven't tried it, but wonder if ground resonance oscillations actually decay if the helo is loosely tethered, allowing it to rise and stabilize in ground effect hover several inches above the ground.

The tethers may act as inertial dampers (ugh @ way too much Stargate SG-1) and quiet things down. Or they may shake the helo to bits with a whipping action in harmonic oscillations, if the tethers get too taut. Or whatta.

The trick may be in establishing hover without making the tethers get real tight, plus restricting throttle-up to just below onset of second-harmonic resonance, say around 85%?

Hover training with tethers attached to a strain gauge oughta be de rigeur for every aspiring helo-driver in any case - that gauge will never lie @ learning to hover precisely and accurately (Do as I say, not as I do alert!!)

I think I will try it to see what happens, one of these days, and report - unless you folks already know how it would turn out?

For that matter, how about always parking the helo on a cork sheet during spool-up to absorb vibrations?

And thirdly, stiffer DFC shafts may help narrow ground resonance frequency bandwidths and alleviate the problem, what?
Heli-helo is offline        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-24-2012, 07:22 PM   #18 (permalink)
HF Support
 
Posts: 33,560
Thread Starter Thread Starter
 
My HF Map location
Join Date: May 2006
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Heli-helo View Post
I haven't tried it, but wonder if ground resonance oscillations actually decay if the helo is loosely tethered, allowing it to rise and stabilize in ground effect hover several inches above the ground.

The tethers may act as inertial dampers (ugh @ way too much Stargate SG-1) and quiet things down. Or they may shake the helo to bits with a whipping action in harmonic oscillations, if the tethers get too taut. Or whatta.

The trick may be in establishing hover without making the tethers get real tight, plus restricting throttle-up to just below onset of second-harmonic resonance, say around 85%?

Hover training with tethers attached to a strain gauge oughta be de rigeur for every aspiring helo-driver in any case - that gauge will never lie @ learning to hover precisely and accurately (Do as I say, not as I do alert!!)

I think I will try it to see what happens, one of these days, and report - unless you folks already know how it would turn out?

For that matter, how about always parking the helo on a cork sheet during spool-up to absorb vibrations?

And thirdly, stiffer DFC shafts may help narrow ground resonance frequency bandwidths and alleviate the problem, what?
We generally don't recommend tying a heli down for any reason, even loosly. That's just asking for disaster.
Rick
__________________
Helifreak, the place to be!
Oxy5 w/Brain2, Rush 750 w/VBAR,Logo 400SE, 600SE w/NEOs, TREX 450SE, 500, 600, Blade mCPX,130X, 180CFX, Nano QX, Convergence VTOL, MiniProtos w/BD3SX
My products, used by top pilots worldwide, like you! http://rdlohr.com
rdlohr is online now        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-26-2012, 12:20 PM   #19 (permalink)
Registered Users
 
Posts: 1,636
 

Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Central Utah, USA
Default Announce your intentions!

As a long time hang glider pilot, I know about the importance of safety procedures. Before launching, pilots will loudly call out: "CLEAR!" right before running off the hill. I have adopted a similar practice for my new-found heli hobby.
  • Before releasing the throttle hold, I say: "CLEAR PROP!". This also ensures that I had set TH before takeoff.
  • After landing, I say: "THROTTLE HOLD!" to make sure I actually do flip the switch before touching the bird.

Just one of the many good habits I'm trying to develop as I gain experience in this new (not-just-potentially dangerous) endeavor.

Thanks for the building and flying safety tips!

p.s. When announcing your flight intentions It helps if you call out in the same tone as Wayne and Garth saying "GAME ON!"
ridge-runner is offline        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 04-08-2013, 03:01 AM   #20 (permalink)
Registered Users
 

Join Date: Apr 2013
Default

Great points with some really good information and content.i love the RC Helicopters I have one of the 3 channel indoor metal frame models and I have to say I absolutely love it and have great fun with it . Anyway thank you for sharing such a really nice information with us ........
barrymartin is offline        Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply




Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the HeliFreak forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your REAL and WORKING email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself. Use a real email address or you will not be granted access to the site. Thank you.
Email Address:
Location
Where do you live? ie: Country, State, City or General Geographic Location please.
Name and Lastname
Enter name and last name here. (This information is not shown to the general public. Optional)
Helicopter #1
Enter Helicopter #1 type and equipment.
Helicopter #2
Enter Helicopter #2 type and equipment.
Helicopter #3
Enter Helicopter #3 type and equipment.
Helicopter #4
Enter Helicopter #4 type and equipment.

Log-in


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




Copyright © Website Acquisitions Inc. All rights reserved.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1