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03-24-2012, 10:57 PM | #21 (permalink) | |
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I suppose he is kind of a celebrity. He was on the History Channel. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qqu3BDtE2fs[/ame] |
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03-25-2012, 08:04 AM | #22 (permalink) |
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Move the entire Engine and Mount Assembly upwards towards the top of the sideframes fully
seating clutch bushings and clutch into the clutch bell. Drop the Engine Assembly approximately 1/2mm to allow clutch to “float” on the delrin clutch bushings. This is what allows the Bergen clutch to be self-aligning. Ok, that answers one question. |
03-25-2012, 09:22 AM | #23 (permalink) |
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CLUTCHBELL ASSY STD GAS W/13T PINION (MOD ENGINES)
That answers another question. Anyone need it? |
03-25-2012, 09:45 AM | #24 (permalink) |
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The new main gear has a different molding configuration than the old one has. This doesn't surprise me, things change. The noticed that the new gear has a smaller diameter than the old one by a little over 1mm. I'm confident it will be fine.
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03-25-2012, 10:32 AM | #25 (permalink) |
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Can these parts be refurbished?
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03-25-2012, 12:01 PM | #26 (permalink) |
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Yeah, sure!
If by refurbish you mean, melting them down, mold new aluminum and steel billets and machine new parts from them, why not?
It's called material recycling! Dimitrios Last edited by Dimitris76; 03-25-2012 at 01:11 PM.. |
03-26-2012, 10:53 AM | #27 (permalink) |
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Which engine is this? The 23 or the 231? Next pic, what do I need to do to upgrade my tail at the minimal cost , can I use any of these parts on the newer tail? I have a 13 tooth bell housing, can I use this as a back up or should I write it off?
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03-26-2012, 12:59 PM | #28 (permalink) |
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That is the original G23 engine, NOT a G231.
The only thing reuseable on the tail are the tail blade grip assy's. The 13 tooth pinion is intended for Hanson hopped up engine's that prefer to run at higher RPM's. We use the 13 tooth pinion to keep the same HS while increasing the engine RPM. We can swap out the pinion to a 14 tooth, but I suggest sending it to me to change it. All it'll cost is shipping and the pinion.
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03-31-2012, 06:31 PM | #29 (permalink) |
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Thanks for the info Chris. I'm putting the bird together and discovered that I am still missing one tail piece. I was so mad at my self that I picked up a rock and started smashing a chunk of aluminum. When I had vented all my anger the aluminum looked like this. I hope I didn't violate a patient.
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03-31-2012, 09:07 PM | #30 (permalink) |
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he he...Not at all.
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03-31-2012, 11:18 PM | #31 (permalink) |
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Please excuse the unrelate question!
Chris, I watched the History Channel video that 2SX1 posted. I've seen it before but didn't notice one little detail before, one that I didn't really have any need for but that situation has changed in past years. What was that sock (for lack of a better term) you had over your transmitter and hands? Was it store bought or home made? I've had more than a few jobs in the past two years that I could have really used something like that. Thanks, Steve R. |
04-01-2012, 12:11 AM | #32 (permalink) |
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There have been a few threads about Tx mitts in the General section. Almost every fall this comes up.
There are commercial ones and some "plans" online to make your own.
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04-01-2012, 04:43 AM | #33 (permalink) |
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Well, it's together and ready for action, in a fashion. The longest blades I have are 660mm, I hope that is close enough for now. I did find a MA tach on ebay. I needed a electric fuel pump and found a auction for it including a hand crank pump, a starter and a tach. It all cost 18 bucks with shipping. I love auctions when the seller lists it incorrectly. I had a brand new 15 year old JR mechanical gyro that I put on the bird, oh well, very little programing problems with it. I know it is obsolete, but so am I.
I had a Kalt Baron gasser that was not very nimble because of its weight, with the 23 engine I have, will it be about the same? I know I will find out during my first flight, but a heads up would be appreciated. |
04-01-2012, 06:55 AM | #34 (permalink) | |
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Sounds like you're close. The bird will fly on the 660 blades but they are way short of what it's designed for. On that old JR gyro, it should work just fine but you're really going to want to update that to a modern HH gyro ASAP. I'd also pay close attention to how it sounds and feels when you power it up. I found an old mechanical gyro a few years ago and tried powering it up out of curiosity. It sounded very rough and it was obvious that it wasn't spooling up properly. If yours isn't smooth and quiet, I wouldn't trust it. As for how your Bergen will compare against the Kalt?? There's no comparison at all. Relative to the Bergen, the Kalt is old technology and the Bergen will fly rings around it, especially after you get the correct length rotor blades on it. I'd try to do that ASAP too. Good luck and Fly Safe, Steve R. Sent from my ADR6300 using Tapatalk |
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04-04-2012, 04:52 PM | #35 (permalink) |
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Well. it's always something unless it's something else. My fuel primer bulb split, I'm thinking this might be a problem. Should I go to the local small engine repair guy or is there a rebuild kit form Bergen? Is this a Hanson engine? Who is the manufacturer of the carb?
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04-04-2012, 06:33 PM | #37 (permalink) |
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Old gasser question
Friend of mine just traded for I'm guessing 90's gas Bergen. It has plywood at the front of the frame. Are there parts still available for this such as main shaft?
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04-04-2012, 07:02 PM | #38 (permalink) |
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Bergens are very much still in production. The only parts that you can't get new are obsolete tails. New tails have been created to handle the more powerful engines that are out now. The front might be plywood if the last owner made it, originally it is a" G-10 GLASS EPOXY SHEET" material. This material is what the frame of the bird is made of.
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04-05-2012, 08:07 AM | #39 (permalink) |
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This one has a white frame and looks alot like my MA60 Custom from the early 90's.
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04-05-2012, 08:44 AM | #40 (permalink) |
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That would be an MA bird, possibly with our G10 frame conversion on it.
All other parts would probably have to come from MA. C&B, I have brand new 643 carbs for $35.... Edit, you're engine is the older G23.....You need a walbro 167 carb, not the 643...Let me see if I have any of the older carbs hanging around.
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