Pyro 600-09 and Jive 100 LV…LOGO?

[Osprey]

I have a Pyro 600-09 and Jive 100 LV left over from a HD Cell 500 project. Are there any LOGOs that might be suitable? I don't want a 3D monsters as I'm more of a sport/big air type flyer.

[Lompma]

480?

[helirifick]

@Lompma, you went with the Pyro 600-11, right? Does it give good speed range with Jive governor? I am getting ready to order the motor, so am wondering which one is better: the Pyro 600-09 or Pyro 600-11 ?

thanks

[helirifick]

Here are some results from Mr. Mel's speed calc.

Main gear 153T Mod 0.7:
Pyro 600-09, Jive gov, 153 main gear, 17T pinion:
Throttle 55%: 1842
Throttle 60%: 1937
Throttle 63%: 1995
Throttle 67%: 2071
Throttle 70%: 2129
Throttle 73%: 2186
Throttle 76%: 2243
Throttle 80%: 2320

Pyro 600-09, Jive gov, 153 main gear, 18T pinion:
Throttle 55%: 1950
Throttle 60%: 2052
Throttle 63%: 2112
Throttle 67%: 2193
Throttle 70%: 2254
Throttle 73%: 2315
Throttle 76%: 2376
Throttle 80%: 2457

Pyro 600-11, Jive gov, 153 main gear, 17T pinion:
Throttle 55%: 2251
Throttle 60%: 2368
Throttle 63%: 2438
Throttle 67%: 2532
Throttle 70%: 2602
Throttle 73%: 2672
Throttle 76%: 2742
Throttle 80%: 2836

Pyro 600-11, Jive gov, 153 main gear, 18T pinion:
Throttle 55%: 2384
Throttle 60%: 2508
Throttle 63%: 2582
Throttle 67%: 2681
Throttle 70%: 2755
Throttle 73%: 2830
Throttle 76%: 2904
Throttle 80%: 3003

======================================

Main gear 106T mod 1.

Pyro 600-09, Jive gov, 106 main gear, 11T pinion:
** too slow **

Pyro 600-09, Jive gov, 106 main gear, 12T pinion:
Throttle 55%: 1876
Throttle 60%: 1974
Throttle 63%: 2032
Throttle 67%: 2110
Throttle 70%: 2169
Throttle 73%: 2227
Throttle 76%: 2286
Throttle 80%: 2364

Pyro 600-09, Jive gov, 106 main gear, 13T pinion:
Throttle 55%: 2033
Throttle 60%: 2138
Throttle 63%: 2202
Throttle 67%: 2286
Throttle 70%: 2350
Throttle 73%: 2413
Throttle 76%: 2476
Throttle 80%: 2561

Pyro 600-09, Jive gov, 106 main gear, 14T pinion:
Throttle 55%: 2189
Throttle 60%: 2303
Throttle 63%: 2371
Throttle 67%: 2462
Throttle 70%: 2530
Throttle 73%: 2599
Throttle 76%: 2667
Throttle 80%: 2758

Pyro 600-09, Jive gov, 106 main gear, 15T pinion:
Throttle 55%: 2346
Throttle 60%: 2467
Throttle 63%: 2541
Throttle 67%: 2638
Throttle 70%: 2711
Throttle 73%: 2784
Throttle 76%: 2857
Throttle 80%: 2955

Pyro 600-11, Jive gov, 106 main gear, 11T pinion:
Throttle 55%: 2103
Throttle 60%: 2212
Throttle 63%: 2277
Throttle 67%: 2365
Throttle 70%: 2430
Throttle 73%: 2496
Throttle 76%: 2562
Throttle 80%: 2649

Pyro 600-11, Jive gov, 106 main gear, 12T pinion:
Throttle 55%: 2294
Throttle 60%: 2413
Throttle 63%: 2485
Throttle 67%: 2580
Throttle 70%: 2652
Throttle 73%: 2723
Throttle 76%: 2795
Throttle 80%: 2890

Pyro 600-11, Jive gov, 106 main gear, 13T pinion:
Throttle 55%: 2484
Throttle 60%: 2614
Throttle 63%: 2691
Throttle 67%: 2794
Throttle 70%: 2872
Throttle 73%: 2949
Throttle 76%: 3027
Throttle 80%: 3130

Pyro 600-11, Jive gov, 106 main gear, 14T pinion:
Throttle 55%: 2676
Throttle 60%: 2815
Throttle 63%: 2898
Throttle 67%: 3009
Throttle 70%: 3093
Throttle 73%: 3176
Throttle 76%: 3260
Throttle 80%: 3371

Pyro 600-11, Jive gov, 106 main gear, 15T pinion:
Throttle 55%: 2867
Throttle 60%: 3016
Throttle 63%: 3105
Throttle 67%: 3225
Throttle 70%: 3314
Throttle 73%: 3403
Throttle 76%: 3493
Throttle 80%: 3612


So, from the above, it would appear that the optimal performance would be achieved with a Pyro 600-11 on mod 0.7 17T or 18T pinion; Pyro 600-09 on mod 1, 14T or 15T pinion; Pyro 600-11 on mod 1, 12T or 13T pinion.

Looks like Pyro 600-11 is a good choice and mod 1, 12T or 13T are optimal pinions? Please double check my calculations and post your experiences. The manual states to not exceed 2500 RPM, so that should be the max governed + overhead head speed.

[helirifick]

To the OP, I apologize for hijacking your thread .

I wanted to post the following info on Kontronik Jive governor that is useful for calculating throttle % vs PWM % :

https://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=480502

so, e.g. 80% throttle, means 50% + (80/2) = 90% PWM, with 10% overhead, I guess.

[Lompma]

Originally Posted by helirifick

@Lompma, you went with the Pyro 600-11, right? Does it give good speed range with Jive governor? I am getting ready to order the motor, so am wondering which one is better: the Pyro 600-09 or Pyro 600-11 ?

thanks

I really like this motor paired with the Kontronik esc. It's like bread with butter they just go together. I have found myself lowering the HS down to 2200 and being very happy with it.

[helirifick]

@Lompma, what pinion are you running with your Pyro 600-11 / Kontronik 100LV ESC ?

[Lompma]

12T