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Old 05-22-2011, 06:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default t rex clone crashed 450

bro help namn oh ng hover ako bumagsak ncra ung isang cylic servo. wala ako mabili katulad ng brand nia.pede b ako mgpalit ng kahit ano basta pang 450 din? o palit lahat ?salamat and about hover pano b ang tamang pagpapalipad?
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Old 05-22-2011, 08:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
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bro help namn oh ng hover ako bumagsak ncra ung isang cylic servo. wala ako mabili katulad ng brand nia.pede b ako mgpalit ng kahit ano basta pang 450 din? o palit lahat ?salamat and about hover pano b ang tamang pagpapalipad?
Sir wakping ano ba ang heli mo? Pag 450 mas mura mga piyesa sir yung mga clones. Sir ang una ko talagang ginawa hinanap ko dito yung mga video ni Finless Bob at lahat ng video niya sa 450 setup na download ko. Laking tulong si Finless. ang una kong ginawa sinet ko yung JR XG-7 radio ko sa throttle 50 in and 50 out para dun ako mag level ng swashplate at head setup. Dapat kasi 90 degrees yung arms and yung flybar para 0 degrees sa middle stick (50 in and 50 out). Medyo natagalan ako mag level sobra kasin OC hahahaha. Ang ginawa ko hinanap ko talaga sa linkages yung pag level ng 90 degrees tapos before ko ilagay yung headsetup sa main shaft, ginamitan ko pa ng swashplate leveler. Ayun dun ko nakita na pag minute details hindi pa talaga level ang swash. So by the way bago nga pala mag 90 degress ang headsetup dapat mauna muna ang mga cyclic servos mo na hanapin mo pinaka closest na 90 degrees ang servo arms kasi dun ka magsisimula i setup yung head ng 90. So papaano hanapin sa servo ang closest 90? Swap or piliin mo lang dun sa mga servo arms, ilipat mo lang dun sa 3 cyclic servos yung mga arms hanggang makakita ka ng closest 90. Pag nakakita ka na ng closest 90, sometimes makaka tsamba ka na pag suot mo ng servo arms sa servo ay 90 degrees na agad yun arm, but kadalasan closest 90. Ngayon dun ka pa lang sa radio transmitter mo mag adjust sa SUBTRIM function mo ng talagang i set mo yung servos ng 90 degrees (middle stick 50 in and 50out). Tapos may mapapansin ka sa leveler mo mag papantay na yung swashplate pero sometimes hindi pa rin. Dapat i throttle hold mo siya dun sa radio para full throw yung swashplate sa todong up stick at down stick. So check mo sa todong up stick kung yung arms ng swashplate ay level dun sa leveler pag hindi punta ka sa TRAVEL ADJUST function at hanapin mo dun, for example yung elevetor servo medyo hindi pumatong yung swashplate leveler, dun ka mag adjust kung how many degrees ang ikot mo sa switch ng radio mo para dumikit yung elevetor servo arms dun sa leveler. Kung tapos ka na dun sa up stick gawin mo din sa pinaka todong down stick ng throttle kung level din mga arms ng swashplate dun sa leveler. Then pag level na lahat dun pa lang mo ilagay ang headsetup sa main shaft mo. Suggestion ko bili ka ng 65MG na Hitec servo sa www.hobby-wing.com at naka sale dun yung servo ng 27 dollars mura na yun or sa www.hobbyking.com mas mura ata dun 23 dollars lang yung servo. Bilisan mo at mabilis maubos yan dun sa site na yun. So pag lahat ayos na minsan no need mo na tracking ng blades kasi pantay na sila. Ang swashmix setting ko "servo 120 deg" Then Aileron ko nasa 60 deg, Elevator nasa 60 deg and pitch ko 45 degrees na mag bibigay kadalasan ng 10 degrees or 11 degrees sa rotor blade. Ang throttle curve ko sa normal mode hovering is 0,25,70,75,85 para di masyado mabilis ang rpm ng rotor. And ang pitch curve ko sa normal mode is 40,45,50,75,100 para safe yan pag kinabahan ka at bigla kang mag down throttle stick ay hindi mabilis ang bagsak ng heli mo. So yan ang basic setup ko sir
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Old 05-22-2011, 08:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Sir wakpings suggestion ko sa inyo punta kayo www.ehirobo.com at bilihin nyo yung kit ng Copterx Black Angel. Grabe yan super mura na 99 dollars lang at ang ganda talaga ng quality. Walang panama ang T rex dyan. Very stable at matibay talaga mga parts as in first class talaga. Hindi kayo mag sisisi dyan. Highly recommended ko yan sir.
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Old 05-22-2011, 11:49 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Default titan 450

ahh brod ganun b un ang dami ko pa pala dapat ayusin at malaman, about 6 channel.honestly beginner ako di ako nkakarelate p sa ibang parts ng 450 or ng mga katawagn sa kanya.hehe it so hard for me now kung papa2no ko patitinuin ang heli ko hehehe.pero alam ko namang malaking tulong ung mga cnavi mo.about cyclic sa divisoria na ko bumili hehe.meron dun sa 168 my binigay cla skin kts09A.isa lang binili ko ok n daw un pang hover.pero pag mag33d n daw ko kylangan pareparehas n daw lahat.nilagay ko nxa kayalang d sukat ung arm ng servo so i nadjust ko n lang sana maging ok kylangan hover lang muna ako.sobrang mahirap pala paliparin to lalo na kung d maganda set up update kita kung ano mangyayari..bro san ka ng papalipad?bka mkakadalaw ka dito batangas kita tayu palipad tayu.hehe oi salamt huh....
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Old 05-23-2011, 07:47 AM   #5 (permalink)
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sir para mas maintindihan nyo parts and setup ng heli punta kayo dun sa thread dito dun sa ginawa ni Finless Bob video ng 450 PRO build. Kumpleto lahat dun ako natuto mag setup.
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Old 05-23-2011, 07:51 AM   #6 (permalink)
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UPDATE! 2/1/2011 - Servo Installation warning! You can bind up the servos if you are not careful when mounting them. Especially with the Hitec 65MG or 5065MG.

Video Link ->Servo installation issues and warning (44 Megs)



Anyway on with the show!

Video Link ->What's in the box!! (46 Megs)


Folks.... CHECK your head for grease and Locktite!
Video Link ->Head Build Part 1 - Head, Grips, etc (66 Megs)

Video Link ->Head Build Part 2 - Flybar, links, etc (47 Megs)

Video Link ->Servo Install and Setup Part 1 (76 Megs)

Video Link ->Servo Install and Setup Part 2 (42 Megs)

Video Link ->Tail Assembly Part 1 (50 Megs)

PIN the boom! I was easily able to pull the boom out of the heli with the boom block tight. See it in my video.
Video Link ->Tail Assembly Part 2 (53 Megs)

Video Link ->Main Gear & Shaft Install and Head Setup (82 Megs)

OK on with more vids.

Video Link ->Tail servo install and initial GP750 gyro settings for servo type (40 Megs)

First up is how to setup the tail and GP750 gyro STOCK per the manual.

Video Link ->Setting up the tail and GP750 Gyro stock per the manual (100 Megs)

OK as I said while trying to get the tail setup there was something I just did not like about the tail geometry. We all know it flys STOCK but I think things can be improved especially for guys wanting to setup rate mode flying. So with that I did a bunch of vids to explain what I mean, show other helis tail geometry, and finally my mod with a flying testimonial.

OK so here is a little discussion on tail geometry and why things should be 90/90 etc.
Video Link -> Tail geometry and what it's about and why do I care? (61 Megs)

OK with that basics, what do other helis look like? I went to the field and looked an MANY other helis and will show you.
Video Link -> The proof... what do other helis look like and why is the tail odd with the Pro? (50 Megs)

OK so here is my mod to fix it. You don't have to do this as we all know the heli flys stock but for rate mode flying setup I see NO other way! As far as I can tell it is impossible to setup rate mode without binding. Well I found a solution.
Video Link -> Simple Tail mod! Flip the grips! (70 Megs)

Finally since my heli is not flying yet, Kevin (Fireup) tested the mod this last weekend. Looked good to me!
Video Link -> Fireup testing the mod! (51 Megs)

OK now that all the tail stuff is out of the way, here are the fianl videos!

Video Link -> Electronics Placement (63 Megs)

THE ATD!!!!
Video Link -> First After Market upgrade for the 450 Pro - Fireup's ATD (25 Megs)

Video Link -> My final radio settings before the Maiden Flight (36 Megs)


Video Link -> Flight Review (60 Megs)


Video Link -> REVIEW - KDEDirect's 450 Pro Upgrade kit (11 Megs)

Sir wakpings ito halos lahat ng videos ni Finless dito sa helifreak. Siya may ari ng website na to.
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Old 05-23-2011, 07:53 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Sir wakpings i download nyo lahat yan para may references kayo sa future.
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Old 06-05-2011, 10:25 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Pare, basta marunong ka mag adjust ng mga limits mo sa Tx, pwede kanf gumamit ng mga iba't ibang servos, pero medyo pwede mag iba nga lang yung speed ng rsponse pag nag 3d ka. Pero kung easy flights lang, ok lang.


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