Any news on the new system?

[danfornow1]

Originally Posted by rhodesengr

Just wondering out loud here

I am somewhat of a pessimist. I am wondering if the delay is because Captron might be waivering on whether they now even want to release a new product. Now that there are quite a few competitors including the low priced Spirit and Neuron (which I know nothing about), where does Capton fit in the market with a new unit? Since the old unit is now selling for $390 (in USA) I assume the new unit will be closer to being back near $500. I think most of the desired features have surfaced in various combination in the other units. So a $500 BD version starts to look like an expensive "me too" thing rather than being a first-in market leader.

I think you may somewhat on target here. It seems like every month someone comes out with a new feature. I think this leaves Captron chasing their tale and going back to the drawing board. I have yet to see anyone with a unit as vibe tolerant as this one though. I'm sure we'll see a governor and most likely easier tuning i.e. Bluetooth, but who knows what else. Price is certainly an issue, I usually by mine used to be honest.

[Bonkievan]

So, it was supposed to be released in the summer. Then we got told probably Autumn.

Carrying on the same theme, are we looking at a Winter release now?

[Raptorapture]

I think the trick will be timing the release with the appropriate functionality and flight capabilities against itself and the competition by maximising what the latest hardware can do.

[jsbach#1]

Ya but if you can't integrate a receiver and have an integrated radio control like vcontrol, the jones are still ahead. Hard to imagine any real breakthroughs in flight performance at my level. They are all great systems the top dogs.

[allen james]

One thing that gives me comfort with BD is i know the system will work and they have a high level of QA.

[Raptorapture]

Originally Posted by jsbach#1

Ya but if you can't integrate a receiver and have an integrated radio control like vcontrol, the jones are still ahead. Hard to imagine any real breakthroughs in flight performance at my level. They are all great systems the top dogs.

You're right that's the one thing that will be a big differentiator in future. I hope a standard evolves or a few anyway so that there isn't total lock down between FBL and Tx.

[LoveToFly1]

just bc you fly vcontrol doenst mean you can only fly vbar. it did in the beginning, and it may at the time I am typing this, but that is not a permanent thing. that has already been announced.

as far as vibes go, the BD is surely very vibe resistant. but there is one new one on the market right now that is much better at it IMHO, and I have flown BD units, and this one on gassers, so I feel I have the experience to state that.

[rhodesengr]

Originally Posted by LoveToFly1

but there is one new one on the market right now that is much better at it IMHO,

did you say which one somewhere? Just curious.

[jasonf08]

Any more updates on a release date and or product info???

[jsbach#1]

If it's of any interest I can once again give two thumbs up to the current system based on my recent experience switching over to neo and vcontrol. Once I made a few small adjustments from default setup templates I can say everything feels very very familiar. No massive revelations or problems either in flight (at my level). Don't think you're missing out on much. And for the record I had zero issues with 3sx. I'm still scared to test rescue on neo lol.

[jasonf08]

jsbach#1, thank you for the feedback...i appreciate hearing that it flys similar. With the invaluable captain rescue feature of the 3sx it has taught me how to fly & saved me 3-5k in crash costs. i am ready for better tuning options, bank switching and a build in gov to improve the locked in feel of my helis. Unfortunately ive decided to make the switch to vcontrol and their neo this month once the white edition comes out. I plan on doing a side by side comparison.

[F1 Rocket]

New system is moving along in development testing and will be released...................................As soon as it's ready.

Seriously guys, Captron is working as hard as they are capable of on this. I've seen the new hardware (well, actually held it in my hand) and it's very cool

[allen james]

Looking forward to it 😃

[jsbach#1]

Originally Posted by jasonf08

jsbach#1, thank you for the feedback...i appreciate hearing that it flys similar. With the invaluable captain rescue feature of the 3sx it has taught me how to fly & saved me 3-5k in crash costs. i am ready for better tuning options, bank switching and a build in gov to improve the locked in feel of my helis. Unfortunately ive decided to make the switch to vcontrol and their neo this month once the white edition comes out. I plan on doing a side by side comparison.

Word for word our experiences are identical. The 3SX is the best controller I ever used hands down. Neo still has to prove itself over the course of next year. But we're off to a good start. There is a certain magic to the vcontrol - neo handshake and you will find things are just easier overall.

[apper001]

Anything known about it's new features...??

[DJG24]

Ya. Apparently it's invisible!

Sorry, couldn't resist!!

[chenlixyz]

First Spirit, then vbar neo. Now even blade: http://www.bladehelis.com/NANOCPS/

The once unique rescue feature is now literally everywhere. I wonder what BD can bring this time.

[jsbach#1]

Famous words.... always copied never duplicated !! Good luck finding one that is as bulletproof as 3sx. The blade one is just a self level, like a skookum or a brain. No guarantee its gonna work as they're vibe sensitive and you still have to remember to pitch up (or down) to move the heli out of harms way as it may be on a high speed trajectory when you lose it.

The Neo... well just go to the mikado forum and go thread by thread and read how many unsuccessful rescues you will encounter. Then tell me how many bad rescues you read about here, virtually none ? The worst was the one where the guy had a vcontrol, and he flipped rescue, and it levelled gained altitude, rotate 180 degrees on the rudder and vcontrol says rescue ended all good. So he puts his hands back on the gimbals to continue flying but there is no control. Some kind of strange glitch lost all connection from radio to vbar. I believe he said it was a painful slow 15 seconds? as it drifted and lost altitude and crashed, AND to make it worse he couldn't engage any sort of throttle hold, it hit under power.

Man so don't worry 3sx ain't got many siblings yet in the rescue department.

[chenlixyz]

I read through the neo thread, because I had two vbar neo too. Honestly as far as I see, most failures were more or less due to incorrect setup instead of faulty unit. I guess that's partially because rescue is relatively new concept to vbar users. Questions they ask have been asked and answered several years ago here in this forum.

My personal experience is that the two vbar neo units I have work flawlessly in regards to rescue, every single time I hit the switch. Of course I hate it flips over my heli when it is upside down. To the nearest level, like what bd does is far better imo. Well, maybe mikado does not have a choice because of patients. Who knows.

[Bonkievan]

So hopefully after New Year developers and test pilots have been back hard at work on the new system

How are things progressing and are we any closer to a ball park release date?