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Aeolus1 · 03-25-2014, 01:17 AM

I just purchased this off the classified, seller said only 10 flights but upon inspecting the coils inside. They are black? Is this normal?

Varelco · 03-25-2014, 02:09 AM

No doesn't look normal. Do they look burnt or is it sooty deposits? Like from a fire.

Aeolus1 · 03-25-2014, 02:13 AM

Yes they look like ashes when I use a swab to get some sample. Seller said its 10 flights

thefrog · 03-25-2014, 02:42 AM

Something seems to have burnt up somewhere. It could be from the motor or perhaps a pack or ESC popped and the motor ingested the soot. It shouldn't look like that. The only way to see if its the motor is to remove the can and check the windings. In your photo one of the leads looks like it has a burn mark - check the blue lead.

The motor could be 10 flights old, maybe they weren't good flights.

Aeolus1 · 03-25-2014, 03:01 AM

Yes I contacted the seller, I don't want to risk my kosmic for this motor. I hope he can help

Aeolus1 · 03-25-2014, 05:03 AM

Seller replied back and said it was from oiling the motor that caused the coil to come black.

Nelvick · 03-25-2014, 05:07 AM

Doesn't look like 10 flights only in my opinion. I have the same motor with over 300 flights and looks better.

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Greg Alderman · 03-25-2014, 05:43 AM

If you end up keeping it and want it checked out by Kontronik USA Service. Please contact me via my Kontronik Email in my signature below and we can take care of you. I can clean it, check bearings and shaft for wear and also test the winding for damage.

On another note...are you really going to use a KOSMIK with this motor? A Jive100 LV would be a better suited ESC for this motor and size Heli this motor is for.

Nelvick · 03-25-2014, 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Alderman

If you end up keeping it and want it checked out by Kontronik USA Service. Please contact me via my Kontronik Email in my signature below and we can take care of you. I can clean it, check bearings and shaft for wear and also test the winding for damage.

On another note...are you really going to use a KOSMIK with this motor? A Jive100 LV would be a better suited ESC for this motor and size Heli this motor is for.

I agree. This motor is more for a 550 or 570 probably in 6S. A kosmik will be overkill. I have my 550 with this motor on 603 Edge SE with a HJ 120HV working perfectly.

Aeolus1 · 03-25-2014, 06:59 AM

Thank you all for the help, seller agreed to refund me. Thank you again!

im4711 · 03-26-2014, 01:55 PM

Good to see you getting a refund. Number of flights would not mean much. It could have been an ESC fire or lipo fire which could happen even on flight one. Also I remember a motor getting messed up a bit due to heavy wear on the gear. However picture looked more like a fire on the heli.

So what heli did you try to get the motor for? As Greg and Nelvic mentioned this motor is for helis like some 500-550 size on 6s setup and I am not aware of a Kosmik fitting such heli.

Otto Rotation · 03-26-2014, 07:20 PM

A Kosmik would be massive overkill for that motor, it's very small. A Jive 100LV is perfect for it.

Aeolus1 · 03-28-2014, 12:50 AM

I just got the kosmic today and it's massive! My jive 100lv is on the way to Germany for repair. I only have the kosmic available to use.

Aeolus1 · 03-28-2014, 01:17 AM

Nelvick · 03-28-2014, 05:52 AM

OMG !!!!!!!! This is wayyyyyy overkilllll.. LOLLLLL Interesting. I will be stressed in a crash. Keep it dry.

im4711 · 03-28-2014, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aeolus1

Now you have to figure out how to mount a Pyro 850 and fit some 14s batteries.

I am amazed you are trying a Kosmik on a 500 heli.

ZyBeR · 03-28-2014, 07:53 AM

Haha, I love over doing things, but you mate take it to a whole new level

03-25-2014, 01:17 AM	#1 (permalink)
Aeolus1 Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2012	Kontronik pyro 600-12 I just purchased this off the classified, seller said only 10 flights but upon inspecting the coils inside. They are black? Is this normal? __________________ Goblin 500 x2 \| Gaui x3 \| BD3SX \| MKS \| KONTRONIK \| 14SG \| PL8

03-25-2014, 02:09 AM	#2 (permalink)
Varelco Registered Users Join Date: Jun 2012	No doesn't look normal. Do they look burnt or is it sooty deposits? Like from a fire. __________________ JR Forza 450 \| Align Trex 550 V1 \| Henseleit TDF \| Henseleit TDSF

03-25-2014, 02:13 AM	#3 (permalink)
Aeolus1 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Apr 2012	Kontronik pyro 600-12 Yes they look like ashes when I use a swab to get some sample. Seller said its 10 flights __________________ Goblin 500 x2 \| Gaui x3 \| BD3SX \| MKS \| KONTRONIK \| 14SG \| PL8

03-25-2014, 03:01 AM	#5 (permalink)
Aeolus1 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Apr 2012	Kontronik pyro 600-12 Yes I contacted the seller, I don't want to risk my kosmic for this motor. I hope he can help __________________ Goblin 500 x2 \| Gaui x3 \| BD3SX \| MKS \| KONTRONIK \| 14SG \| PL8

03-25-2014, 05:03 AM	#6 (permalink)
Aeolus1 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Apr 2012	Kontronik pyro 600-12 Seller replied back and said it was from oiling the motor that caused the coil to come black. __________________ Goblin 500 x2 \| Gaui x3 \| BD3SX \| MKS \| KONTRONIK \| 14SG \| PL8

03-25-2014, 02:42 AM	#4 (permalink)
thefrog Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2011	Something seems to have burnt up somewhere. It could be from the motor or perhaps a pack or ESC popped and the motor ingested the soot. It shouldn't look like that. The only way to see if its the motor is to remove the can and check the windings. In your photo one of the leads looks like it has a burn mark - check the blue lead. The motor could be 10 flights old, maybe they weren't good flights.

03-25-2014, 05:07 AM	#7 (permalink)
Nelvick Registered Users Join Date: Nov 2012	Kontronik pyro 600-12 Doesn't look like 10 flights only in my opinion. I have the same motor with over 300 flights and looks better. Sent from my iPhone IOS 7 using Tapatalk 2 __________________ Mikado Logo 800XXtreme, Vbar 5.3, 813mm Edge Blades, 14S Kontronik Cool Kosmik 200HV. ALIGN T-REX 550E DFC with 600 Boom, 603mm Edge Blades, Kontronik Heli Jive 120HV, Pyro 600-12, Mini Vbar 5.3 Pro, V3 Tail, Black Gears, Many KDE Upgrades.

03-25-2014, 05:43 AM	#8 (permalink)
Greg Alderman Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jul 2004	If you end up keeping it and want it checked out by Kontronik USA Service. Please contact me via my Kontronik Email in my signature below and we can take care of you. I can clean it, check bearings and shaft for wear and also test the winding for damage. On another note...are you really going to use a KOSMIK with this motor? A Jive100 LV would be a better suited ESC for this motor and size Heli this motor is for. __________________ Greg Alderman Warehouse/ Facilities Manager greg@helidirect.com

03-25-2014, 06:59 AM	#10 (permalink)
Aeolus1 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Apr 2012	Kontronik pyro 600-12 Thank you all for the help, seller agreed to refund me. Thank you again! __________________ Goblin 500 x2 \| Gaui x3 \| BD3SX \| MKS \| KONTRONIK \| 14SG \| PL8

03-26-2014, 01:55 PM	#11 (permalink)
im4711 Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Oct 2008	Good to see you getting a refund. Number of flights would not mean much. It could have been an ESC fire or lipo fire which could happen even on flight one. Also I remember a motor getting messed up a bit due to heavy wear on the gear. However picture looked more like a fire on the heli. So what heli did you try to get the motor for? As Greg and Nelvic mentioned this motor is for helis like some 500-550 size on 6s setup and I am not aware of a Kosmik fitting such heli. __________________ Kontronik, Switch Blades, Bavarian Demon, TDR, TDF, Diabolo, HeliBaby, Takumi and Banshee

03-26-2014, 07:20 PM	#12 (permalink)
Otto Rotation Registered Users Join Date: May 2013	A Kosmik would be massive overkill for that motor, it's very small. A Jive 100LV is perfect for it. __________________ Low speed, high drag

03-28-2014, 12:50 AM	#13 (permalink)
Aeolus1 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Apr 2012	Kontronik pyro 600-12 I just got the kosmic today and it's massive! My jive 100lv is on the way to Germany for repair. I only have the kosmic available to use. __________________ Goblin 500 x2 \| Gaui x3 \| BD3SX \| MKS \| KONTRONIK \| 14SG \| PL8

03-28-2014, 01:17 AM	#14 (permalink)
Aeolus1 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Apr 2012	Kontronik pyro 600-12 __________________ Goblin 500 x2 \| Gaui x3 \| BD3SX \| MKS \| KONTRONIK \| 14SG \| PL8

03-28-2014, 05:52 AM	#15 (permalink)
Nelvick Registered Users Join Date: Nov 2012	OMG !!!!!!!! This is wayyyyyy overkilllll.. LOLLLLL Interesting. I will be stressed in a crash. Keep it dry. __________________ Mikado Logo 800XXtreme, Vbar 5.3, 813mm Edge Blades, 14S Kontronik Cool Kosmik 200HV. ALIGN T-REX 550E DFC with 600 Boom, 603mm Edge Blades, Kontronik Heli Jive 120HV, Pyro 600-12, Mini Vbar 5.3 Pro, V3 Tail, Black Gears, Many KDE Upgrades.

03-28-2014, 07:53 AM	#17 (permalink)
ZyBeR Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2009	Haha, I love over doing things, but you mate take it to a whole new level __________________ *Lynx* Heli Innovations \| HD Helicopters

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