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03-12-2011, 10:31 AM | #42 (permalink) | |
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Yes I also think the shape of the frame and canopy is a little Bergen design particularly around the tailhousing.
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03-12-2011, 10:32 AM | #43 (permalink) |
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I haven't flown Logo's so I won't speak to what I see going on there mechanically and bleed ignorance. But, I see some very well engineered aspects of that heli, just some things that catch my eye, that will probably show itself very nicely in days to come. It takes guts to vary the recipe a bit, but if you don't the market will take off and leave you. A good design causes some shock reaction imho. No matter what brand I feel passionate about, that heli appears to be smothered in sound engineering.
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03-12-2011, 10:44 AM | #44 (permalink) | |
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My 700e on 690mm eats my 12s, 620mm, logo 600 setups for lunch in the hard 3d department. I'd be very pleased with that kind of performance out of the logo 700. |
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03-12-2011, 11:05 AM | #45 (permalink) | ||
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Pick any other heli. The sliders and control arms look pretty similar. I mean, how different can those parts look? I'm sure the nuts and bolts look the same on this heli as they do on any T-Rex; so would you say that these are Align parts too? (Remember, I'm saying that they look the same, because they aren't the same. My 4 year old daughter could strip the bolts on any of my T-Rexes. Not bashing here. The truth.) |
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03-12-2011, 12:13 PM | #46 (permalink) |
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All this nonsense ive had to listen to about how plastic is sooooo great and logo this and logo that. And CF is bad And metal rotor head is bad. WELL ENJOY YOUR NEW COMPASS 7HV!!!!!! I myself think it looks pretty cool. Canopy is a bit ugly. But some of the logo propaganda surely must have to go out the window now
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03-12-2011, 12:34 PM | #47 (permalink) |
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hahaha. True.
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03-12-2011, 12:57 PM | #48 (permalink) |
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Here are some more images: http://szene.litronics2000.de/?p=1009
It has a belt from main to TT, that's what's on the pics... About weight... seams like 14s with a 5035 and a YGE >120HV seams the way to go... anyway, I'm glad I didn't make the 1400Km trip, it seams like the LogoEx.. didn't even fly -klaus
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03-12-2011, 01:02 PM | #49 (permalink) | |
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If Mikado uses this CF panels with CNC parts, that's a design Mikado made. I would have preferred another design... -Klaus
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03-12-2011, 01:14 PM | #50 (permalink) |
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I really like the tail setup. The slider and grips look great.
The head looks exceptionally "beefy" and should never have a problem swinging ANY blade LOL Anyone else notice that the spindle bolt is REALLY close to the root of the main blades? I also like the integrated swash driver... it should be standard on every fbl heli anyway. The battery setup looks pretty interesting. If i'm looking correctly, the side frame has some holes that look to be "adjustment" holes for something. battery mount?? Nice that the packs sit side by side too on that carbon fiber mount. Also love the HUGE mainshaft and spindle shafts.. probably going to be needed to spin 800mm blades at 3D headspeeds. The skids do look a little small though for this heli though I know it's hard to tell sizes based on pictures, but this thing looks ENORMOUS!!
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03-12-2011, 01:17 PM | #51 (permalink) |
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You might hate it or love it but I think this thing is going to be in a leage of it's own. It's going to be more of an 800 size 3D machine from the looks of it.
If that's a good thing we'll have to wait and see.
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03-12-2011, 02:28 PM | #52 (permalink) | |
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It’s too early to tell, but this is German engineering so I’ll be watching the details unfold. |
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03-12-2011, 02:42 PM | #53 (permalink) |
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Complainers...lol
Great Job Mikado!! I love the design and I'm sure that it will be a beast in the skys and on the boards. I wish some of the complainers would sit down on auto cad and drum up a better looking/performing machine.
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03-12-2011, 03:14 PM | #54 (permalink) |
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Looks like a big heli.
I'd venture to guess at least a 12s 5000 setup. in this pic the batts are side by side. http://szene.litronics2000.de/wp-con...3/IMGP9407.jpg I'm not sure if i'm crazy about the tail drive/TT combo. IMO the non shouldered pulley for the belt drive could be a problem setting up and or coming up/down and off. (yes i own a protos) I also like the lowered head with the built in swash driver , looks sharp. I've been running lowered heads for years and everyone keeps saying im going to chop my boom off. In reality it flies a bit better IMO One piece tail case is nice , on my logo 600/se i find it's tough to get it just right and 2 independant side plates allows for more user error. Mikado plastic is great and i for one love it. I'm sure on a heli of this class there are large loads to deal with. And one needs to factor in that alot of people like carbon and machined aluminum bits (guilty - right here) so it's logical to go that route. I'm sure it could be done in plastic but worst case mikado sells more kits to the people that must have carbon ( good bussiness ). Nice heli , personally i'll be holding back and flying my 600/se while the 700 comes out. It will take a bit of time to get the parts in stock, initial/backorders orders filled, and all the hot setups figured out. This way i know what motor/esc to buy , spare parts to keep on hand, etc IMO i think this will be a good 700 3d machine but it's true intention is to be a great 800 3d machine. martin
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03-12-2011, 03:17 PM | #55 (permalink) |
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The canopy scheme is throwing people off, let's see a different scheme, and naked pics
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03-12-2011, 04:18 PM | #56 (permalink) |
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Now that Logos look like every other "new" heli out there...
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03-12-2011, 04:23 PM | #57 (permalink) |
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Now I'm sure Align will fire back with a trex800. hehe. Truth is it's really a Logo 900 because the tail servo looks very tiny on the logo compare to my trex700e.
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03-12-2011, 04:30 PM | #58 (permalink) |
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Name another heli that has a 2 stage tail drive?
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03-12-2011, 04:32 PM | #59 (permalink) |
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There won´t be any "naked" pics, since they refused to take the canopy off. It seemed they were anxious that parts of the design will be copied.
I have seen it today and it really is huge - much bigger than everyone expected, including the attending teampilots - In my opinion there is no point putting blades smaller than 800 on it. Ralf Buskowitz Buxnowitz said the take-off weight will be 5-6 kg and the max. headspeed around 2000. The main reason for the belt/TT combination is strength. There was no information on the price and on the exact release date. |
03-12-2011, 05:17 PM | #60 (permalink) |
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He means that it is full carbon and CNC..! and its a little complicated...!
2 stage tail drive you can find on some helis Like Kyosho Caliber 90 but its from belt to belt.. and not from belt to TT....
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