Throttle return spring part two video

[rdlohr]

Originally Posted by McKrackin

You cannot argue that something is wrong if you have never tried it or even heard of it causing a problem.

I doubt you will find even one scientist that will agree with this statement.

[McKrackin]

Originally Posted by rdlohr

Here is the problem. Its not your call what people post. Opinions are OK here regardless of of whether you think they are OK. When you make a post, you have to expect/accept opposing view points. I'm asking that you go even one step further and appreciate them for what the could add. Thats what helifreak is all about.

Rick

Opinions are cool and welcome but calling something wrong without proof is different.

"I won't do it because I think...." That's a fine reply.

"You are wrong because I think...." That's not.

See a difference?

People who have tried it are posting and people who think it would have helped them are posting.
The opposing opinions are posted and read.
Repeating it over and over and over is not proof of anything but a willingness to argue.

I think we've all read the opposing opinions and we're waiting for further evidence.
Post your experience now.
Your opinion is posted and duely noted.

I concede that there will be a slightly increased amp draw.You're right.
That should be the end of that debate.

If it is harmful,show some evidence.Some testing.Anything.
Your opinions are on the record and I agree to a point

Also,please note that I am not saying it's good or bad.
I'm not arguing for or against it.

I think it looks like a good idea and I'm going to try it.
I am very interested in first hand experience now.
Have you used it with no problems?
Have you used it and it caused problems?

Why crusade against a safety device if you've never tried it or even heard of a problem with it?

[rdlohr]

There is no right or wrong here. Its all about personal choice. I must have missed the post that implied otherwise.

Personally, if I flew nitro, I'd consider the spring. Not sure after that consideration which way I would go.
Rick

[Rªzª]

I have never heard of, or personally thrown baby kittens in a blender thus it must be ok!

[McKrackin]

Originally Posted by rdlohr

There is no right or wrong here. Its all about personal choice. I must have missed the post that implied otherwise.

Personally, if I flew nitro, I'd consider the spring. Not sure after that consideration which way I would go.
Rick

You're exactly right and that is my point in its entirety.
Personal choice.

This is my thread and I'm the OP.
I started it looking for data and experience.
I read all the opinions against it and understand them completely.
I even agree but I don't see a potential for harm.
I will keep it in mind though.

Now I'm interested in personal experience.
I'd like to get all the facts I can get.
Whether they are in support or evidence of damage caused by its use.

I only ask that we stay on topic and the topic is....
Have you tried this and what were your results?

[Rªzª]

Originally Posted by McKrackin

This is my thread and I'm the OP.

Sorry that does not make you an admin or give you any rights to dictate why people may be allowed to post in ANY thread. The only off topic discussions here have been started by you. Counter arguments are on topic.

This is an open community, open for all discussions. Even if that means an occasional derailment. It's part of the whole deal. You of all people should know how that works.

[sleddog7]

McKracken,

I'm still open to sending you a meter.... and I'll pay the return shipping.

Use it with the spring and record the reading, then attatch the spring and record that reading.
The deal is to post the video's results.

... So say you?

Like I said before, and more than once.. the spring is not a bad thing to do, but I'll elect not to do it.

[McKrackin]

Originally Posted by Rªzª

The only off topic discussions here have been started by you.

Originally Posted by Rªzª

I have never heard of, or personally thrown baby kittens in a blender thus it must be ok!

Originally Posted by Rªzª

I didn't see anything in that article that mentioned putting a return spring on a gas pedal (which already exists on all cars as far as I know). They just fixed the carpeting lol. The issue wasn't the lack of a return spring, it was the carpet getting stuck in the pedal assembly.

I will definitely make sure to check all the carpet forward retention clips on my 700 though

Really?

[DominicD]

Originally Posted by McKrackin

Opinions are cool and welcome but calling something wrong without proof is different.

Pretty sure that is the definition of someone's opinion. And to be honest you haven't proven your case either, you have to provide a specific case where your mod prevented a chicken dance (and proving that a chicken dance would have occured absent your mod is actually impossible).


As OP you are the starter of a discussion, not the judge and/or jury.

[McKrackin]

Originally Posted by sleddog7

McKracken,

I'm still open to sending you a meter.... and I'll pay the return shipping.

Use it with the spring and record the reading, then attatch the spring and record that reading.
The deal is to post the video's results.

... So say you?

Like I said before, and more than once.. the spring is not a bad thing to do, but I'll elect not to do it.

Send it.
PM sent.

[TheBum]

Originally Posted by DominicD

Pretty sure that is the definition of someone's opinion. And to be honest you haven't proven your case either, you have to provide a specific case where your mod prevented a chicken dance (and proving that a chicken dance would have occured absent your mod is actually impossible).


As OP you are the starter of a discussion, not the judge and/or jury.

Plus, calling a person wrong is not necessarily a personal attack on his character. Calling somebody wrong and calling them an idiot are two different things: the former deals with the opinion and the latter deals with the person.

[McKrackin]

Originally Posted by TheBum

Plus, calling a person wrong is not necessarily a personal attack on his character. Calling somebody wrong and calling them an idiot are two different things: the former deals with the opinion and the latter deals with the person.

I have never done that.

The concept or idea.Not the person.

[sleddog7]

Originally Posted by McKrackin

Send it.
PM sent.

PM returned.

I'm sending McKracken the meter on Tuesday.... He will video and post the readings with and without the spring on the heli he has pictured in the first post.... He'll also measure the tail servo workload as well.

.. just don't 'forget' to send the meter back to me!

[TheBum]

Originally Posted by McKrackin

I have never done that.

The concept or idea.Not the person.

I'm not saying you have, but you were complaining about that very thing a few posts ago. I quote:

Opinions are cool and welcome but calling something wrong without proof is different.

"I won't do it because I think...." That's a fine reply.

"You are wrong because I think...." That's not.

See a difference?

[McKrackin]

Understood.

Back to the topic please

[Rªzª]

Originally Posted by McKrackin

Really?

Absolutely. Each of those examples is a direct response to something you started. Including this one.

[BTB]

I can understand debating the issue but there are more than a few posts that dont help at all. They were made in a attempt to be funny or start problems with the op. This same energy could have been used to help other freaks out with their problems. For example, yesterday I had a question about charging a car battery with my bantam. NONE of the people wasting their time, with name calling and poor joke telling in this thread could find the time to help me out.

[sleddog7]

Originally Posted by BOBTHEBUILDER32

I can understand debating the issue but there are more than a few posts that dont help at all.

For example, yesterday I had a question about charging a car battery with my bantam. NONE of the people wasting their time, with name calling and poor joke telling in this thread could find the time to help me out.

Just being curious, I checked out the thread... one member made a responding post to it.

Charging a vehilce's battery with our hobby equipment is quite common.

[McKrackin]

Originally Posted by Rªzª

Absolutely. Each of those examples is a direct response to something you started. Including this one.

Throwing kittens in a blender is a real and hobby related reply?
I would expect better from the moderators but it just happens that it's the moderators that are derailing the thread.

Just do us all a favor and close it please.
Thanks a lot guys.
I got all the info I need from this thread.

[TheBum]

You could close it yourself and you know it, since you're the OP. Also, the mods didn't derail the thread: it was already coming unraveled when we stepped in.

That said, I'll go ahead and close it.