Warp prototype videos, info, and couple photos

[milliotseb]

6mm if I remember correctly

[GimpyGolden]

Yup w/4mm tail shaft if nothing has changed from original spec.

[ScotY]

Anyone have specs on the motor? Is it a Scorpion made motor? If so, what model is it? Considering going the 4S route rather than 6S.

[GimpyGolden]

It is a Compass designed and built motor.
Kv is to be 1300 so really a 6S motor.
You can order kit w/o motor and blades and outfit a 4S setup.

[ScotY]

I was looking for ideas for a 4s motor...any suggestions?

[zeusramon]

Align motor i think than work on 4s , but you must find to find pinions for that .

[njs77]

Originally Posted by ScotY

I was looking for ideas for a 4s motor...any suggestions?

Maybe Scorpion 2221-1630kv ?

[spykez]

Originally Posted by GimpyGolden

It is a Compass designed and built motor.
Kv is to be 1300 so really a 6S motor.
You can order kit w/o motor and blades and outfit a 4S setup.

Originally Posted by ScotY

I was looking for ideas for a 4s motor...any suggestions?

I am watching with interest, heh.

I wonder if the scorp 2221-2010 will do for 4S since the 6S is 1300kV

[milliotseb]

Why would you prefer 4S to 6S?For batteries diversity

Does Warp take any motor or does it need a specific shaft length?

[Caleb White]

Originally Posted by milliotseb

Why would you prefer 4S to 6S?For batteries diversity

Does Warp take any motor or does it need a specific shaft length?

I don't have the length at hand, but it does require enough length to use the support bearing and it must be 4mm diameter for that bearing and pulley.

[Luigi_tuga]

The warp has a bearing to support the motor shaft?

[ScotY]

Hmm...sounds like it might be a challenge to find a 4S motor. Would be nice if the shaft was supported below the pinion...didn't notice a support in the pics. I'm thinking 4S might be better/easier because it seems easier to find batteries. And, based on the mounting position of a 6S 1300 pack, it seems a little more weight is needed anyway to get the CG correct. Lastly, 4S 2200mah probably has a little more in it than a 6S 1300 pack. The original specs called for 4S 2200 or 6S 1500. 1500mah cells are not common, at least I haven't seen any that I can remember.

[Caleb White]

Yes, a support bearing is between the two tail belt guide pulleys. While recommended, it may not be required; it will relieve some motor bearing stress due to the belt. The motor belt really doesn't have to be super tight. If you find another motor with 4mm shaft it should be okay, but you'll have to use Compass pinions.

[Caleb White]

We need to clarify with Sebastian, but ideally if you must use a scorpion or other motor, you will most likely need to swap shafts out. Maybe Compass will have a shaft that works with Scorpion motors, as the Scorps are 4mm in the motor, but are ground down to 3.17mm for the pinion.

We would encourage everyone to try the Compass motor on 6s, and 6s will be the best on this heli.

[Luigi_tuga]

This heli is built to last, as least from all i read about it.
4mm motor shaft with bearing support, 500 size tail, rigid head...
I'm flying my 450 sport with stretch to 360, but it will be funny to find the differences
Bring it on!!
Thanks for all the details Caleb

[P.I.Engineer]

i just realized you don't have to set gear mesh with this thing. This design just get's better and better. I also like how it looks like the head uses the 7hv tail hub.

[corrosionate]

I don't know how I never noticed this entire sub forum, or noticed that Compass was fixing to release such a heli, but I gotta say, since I stumbled upon it today, it's all I can think about.

I am a firm believer that less is more, and lower parts count and simpler design is the only way to produce more reliable efficient machines. When I saw this Warp 360 I was astounded. I can't imagine being able to strip much more unnecessary fat than Compass has with this heli. Maybe a single belt drive like a Protos..... but this is pretty close. I love the tail assembly how it just screws right to the boom. Direct servo to swash links, DFC type links to blade grip.... rigid head even! I think my favorite part of the whole heli (looks wise) is the lack of boom supports. This design may not be visually appealing to many, but to me it's gorgeous. Everything it needs to fly, and nothing that it doesn't need. I really like the Henseleit style anti-rotation guide deal as well. Super simple, and slick looking. I just hope those carbon pieces on the blade grips are sacrificial and prevent damage to the rigid main hub. Unless of course the hub is cheaper to replace than the carbon grips, but in that case I'd rather see plain ol' aluminum grips to reduce the part count further.

This morning I was not in the market for another ~450 size heli whatsoever. Now I see that I must make room for one more. I don't think I can pass on this one. Crash survivability looks like it could be my only concern, but heck, if you build it like a tank, it'll probably fly like a tank.


Edit: I also noticed that battery size/shape should be very flexible. It looks like any battery pack should fit under there.

[zeusramon]

Then compass motor have a pinio shaft like scorpion ( 3,15 ) and doesn't like Align ( 3,5) isn't? .why you say that we must to use compass pinions? Different module?

[Luigi_tuga]

Maybe because it's more specific than a pinion, it really is a pulley, must not be a standard universal part like the pinions are.

[Caleb White]

Originally Posted by zeusramon

Then compass motor have a pinio shaft like scorpion ( 3,15 ) and doesn't like Align ( 3,5) isn't? .why you say that we must to use compass pinions? Different module?

No, compass motor shaft is 4mm, and I was saying it may be possible to swap to correct shaft size in other motors. Best solution not confirmed yet.
Yes, pulley and not common pinion gear. Not sure if there would be any other pulleys that would work. (similar to protos... model specific part)