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Silverexpress01 · 09-13-2010, 12:30 AM

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georgi UK · 09-13-2010, 09:42 AM

[QUOTE=I fly a little Trex 250 Se at the moment. No FBL blades made for it that I know of, so I use the heavier 205mm plastic blades that it came with (Where oh where is georgi with his tape????)[/QUOTE]

=] Silver yes, its going well, and I hope to release the results by the end of this month...

I have had to enroll part time at a local Oxford Uni. to gain the relevant knowledge.

can you believe that they give us homework???

this is my latest hand in, would you agree with the answer??!

georgi UK

Silverexpress01 · 09-13-2010, 10:00 AM

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georgi UK · 09-13-2010, 10:09 AM

=] yes!! its an inverted view of the boom stays,

georgi UK

Skint Eastwood · 09-13-2010, 10:16 AM

Didnt know you could do 'spot the ball' classes at Uni

georgi UK · 09-13-2010, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skint Eastwood

Didnt know you could do 'spot the ball' classes at Uni

=] haha,

yes, I have a Phd in where's Wally??!

georgi UK

Silverexpress01 · 09-13-2010, 01:44 PM

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RoToR ChAoS · 09-13-2010, 02:48 PM

was that a find waldo question ?

i can do those

Silverexpress01 · 09-13-2010, 03:07 PM

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georgi UK · 09-13-2010, 03:15 PM

=] which bit??

georgi UK

RoToR ChAoS · 09-13-2010, 03:22 PM

why the grip arms are on the same side as the leading edge of the blade instead of the stock grips that have the arms so that they project rearwards on the same side as the blades trailing edge

although i don't know why you can't flip them over then set the head phasing with the swashplate ? is that possible ?

Silverexpress01 · 09-13-2010, 03:31 PM

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Silverexpress01 · 09-13-2010, 03:35 PM

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Silverexpress01 · 09-13-2010, 03:39 PM

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georgi UK · 09-13-2010, 03:41 PM

=] you are running the tapered plastics, same profile as the carbons, heavier but well flimsy...

do the 45 / 45 deg. to find the C/G, then hang by the blade hole with a plumb to see if it lines up...

depending on which side if it doesn't introduces unwanted effects if its trailing or leading grips...

like holding a huge sheet of material and walking into the wind, or walking backwards doing the same thing...

georgi UK

Helos4me · 09-13-2010, 05:43 PM

Good point! The Align flybarless head has the pitch arms on the leading side. The lettering is up and the head of the bolt is up. So I can't really screw that up too easily.
Now the stock flybar head I modified for flybarless has the pitch arms on the trailing side. I used this one when I converted over to the SK 360 and it worked like a champ. I reamed deep inside of the block past where the shaft would normally stop, shaved off the about 0.5", cut two slots where the flybar used to go and drilled a hole 90 deg to that for the thru bolt. The head was closer to the airframe and like I said, worked quite well. I put it back on for trouble shooting and unfortunately the wobble was still there.

Now I'm using the white foam tape you find at the hobby shop. I've struggled so long with this I don't remember if any of the other tape I used yielded the same results.

I'm ready to steal my 360 back from my son. I bought a Solid G to use with the 360 and couldn't make it work right to save my life. Put it on his 600N and it worked fine. Maybe I'll just change canopies, he'll never know!!!!

I think I'll send an email to Skookum. Probably should have done that sooner but didn't want to look like a sick bay commando.

Thunder Fighter · 09-13-2010, 06:19 PM

One thing to note is that by using leading edge grip control with FBL is the swash moves up for positive collective pitch. I am sure it has an effect on performance as well, I have read of some people changing it and it did effect the way the heli flew, at least with flybared heli's.

//Dennis

Silverexpress01 · 09-13-2010, 06:20 PM

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Helos4me · 09-13-2010, 06:34 PM

Yea, with the modified stock head and the trailing pitch arms the swash did have to drop to increase blade pitch. I remember having to reverse the collective.

Silverexpress01 · 09-13-2010, 07:57 PM

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09-13-2010, 09:42 AM	#22 (permalink)
georgi UK Join Date: Mar 2007	[QUOTE=I fly a little Trex 250 Se at the moment. No FBL blades made for it that I know of, so I use the heavier 205mm plastic blades that it came with (Where oh where is georgi with his tape????)[/QUOTE] =] Silver yes, its going well, and I hope to release the results by the end of this month... I have had to enroll part time at a local Oxford Uni. to gain the relevant knowledge. can you believe that they give us homework??? this is my latest hand in, would you agree with the answer??! georgi UK

09-13-2010, 10:09 AM	#24 (permalink)
georgi UK Join Date: Mar 2007	=] yes!! its an inverted view of the boom stays, georgi UK

09-13-2010, 10:16 AM	#25 (permalink)
Skint Eastwood Join Date: Apr 2008	Didnt know you could do 'spot the ball' classes at Uni

09-13-2010, 02:48 PM	#28 (permalink)
RoToR ChAoS Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2010	was that a find waldo question ? i can do those

09-13-2010, 03:15 PM	#30 (permalink)
georgi UK Join Date: Mar 2007	=] which bit?? georgi UK

09-13-2010, 03:22 PM	#31 (permalink)
RoToR ChAoS Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2010	why the grip arms are on the same side as the leading edge of the blade instead of the stock grips that have the arms so that they project rearwards on the same side as the blades trailing edge although i don't know why you can't flip them over then set the head phasing with the swashplate ? is that possible ?

09-13-2010, 03:35 PM	#33 (permalink)
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09-13-2010, 03:39 PM	#34 (permalink)
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09-13-2010, 03:41 PM	#35 (permalink)
georgi UK Join Date: Mar 2007	=] you are running the tapered plastics, same profile as the carbons, heavier but well flimsy... do the 45 / 45 deg. to find the C/G, then hang by the blade hole with a plumb to see if it lines up... depending on which side if it doesn't introduces unwanted effects if its trailing or leading grips... like holding a huge sheet of material and walking into the wind, or walking backwards doing the same thing... georgi UK

09-13-2010, 05:43 PM	#36 (permalink)
Helos4me Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: May 2008	Good point! The Align flybarless head has the pitch arms on the leading side. The lettering is up and the head of the bolt is up. So I can't really screw that up too easily. Now the stock flybar head I modified for flybarless has the pitch arms on the trailing side. I used this one when I converted over to the SK 360 and it worked like a champ. I reamed deep inside of the block past where the shaft would normally stop, shaved off the about 0.5", cut two slots where the flybar used to go and drilled a hole 90 deg to that for the thru bolt. The head was closer to the airframe and like I said, worked quite well. I put it back on for trouble shooting and unfortunately the wobble was still there. Now I'm using the white foam tape you find at the hobby shop. I've struggled so long with this I don't remember if any of the other tape I used yielded the same results. I'm ready to steal my 360 back from my son. I bought a Solid G to use with the 360 and couldn't make it work right to save my life. Put it on his 600N and it worked fine. Maybe I'll just change canopies, he'll never know!!!! I think I'll send an email to Skookum. Probably should have done that sooner but didn't want to look like a sick bay commando. __________________ 700e DFC / KDE 700XF-495 and mount CC Ice2 HV120 / BEC Pro Sk 720 Flybarless / Batt Bus

09-13-2010, 06:19 PM	#37 (permalink)
Thunder Fighter Registered Users Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Melb, Oz	One thing to note is that by using leading edge grip control with FBL is the swash moves up for positive collective pitch. I am sure it has an effect on performance as well, I have read of some people changing it and it did effect the way the heli flew, at least with flybared heli's. //Dennis __________________ soXos: Strike 8.1 - Strike 7.1 Light - Strike 6.1 : Goosky: RS7 - RS4 - S2 - S1 soXos DB7 nightflyer : Jeti DS-16 & DS-12 I am www.soxosaustralia.com.au \| soXos helis \| 1st-RC Products \| EGODRIFT motors \| Goosky helis \| Spinblades

09-13-2010, 06:20 PM	#38 (permalink)
Silverexpress01 Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2009	Issue resolved. Info outdated. __________________ Jose (Youtube -> Silverexpress01 See also Helifreak Blog) MCPx 76/7 \| Trex 250 DFC 667/19 \| Hurricane 200 FES 143/7 Last edited by Silverexpress01; 09-25-2010 at 03:29 PM..

09-13-2010, 06:34 PM	#39 (permalink)
Helos4me Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: May 2008	Yea, with the modified stock head and the trailing pitch arms the swash did have to drop to increase blade pitch. I remember having to reverse the collective. __________________ 700e DFC / KDE 700XF-495 and mount CC Ice2 HV120 / BEC Pro Sk 720 Flybarless / Batt Bus

09-13-2010, 07:57 PM	#40 (permalink)
Silverexpress01 Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2009	Issue resolved. Info outdated. __________________ Jose (Youtube -> Silverexpress01 See also Helifreak Blog) MCPx 76/7 \| Trex 250 DFC 667/19 \| Hurricane 200 FES 143/7 Last edited by Silverexpress01; 09-25-2010 at 03:30 PM..

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