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king kong · 06-09-2006, 01:26 PM

Collective management? these guys are running 12-13 degrees of pitch in their helis. They may have colllective management, but they're smoothe STICK BANGERS, and stick banging draws more amps than just flying the heli around.

Just so u guys know, the align speed control and motor are only designed for 6s, and will burn up on 10s.

king kong · 06-09-2006, 04:09 PM

[quote="Laurens"]Jurrien, I heard the Szabo's have reported to have swelled already 2 packs of 6s.quote]

Ok, i just got confirmation from Alan sr, and he informed me that they have NOT puffed any of their packs flying the 600

Frank

Laurens · 06-09-2006, 04:43 PM

Ok personal conformation is more likely to be true then something I read on RCgroups.

However I still insist that 8s should be the minimum for 3D. 10s is the best for both the pack and power.

Heli_Freak_de · 06-10-2006, 11:25 AM

Flown with 6s2p (4 packs of Align 2100/16C): http://uploadfile.putfile.com/videos/15917592655.wmv

I think with new cells from Flightpower, TP or Xcell it's no problem for 6s. It's also much cheaper to load and balance 6s

skywalkertje · 06-10-2006, 03:31 PM

Great video!

How would you build your 6S 20C from flightpower?

3700 6S 1p (very easy to balance and load, but a bit low on capacity)

or

4200 6S 2p 4*2100 (a bit heavier but more AMPS) same config as the aligns

I hope to see further evidence that all will be fine on 6S if you keep the flights under 5 min...

AlpineCH.21 · 06-10-2006, 11:42 PM

Hey Nick nice flight, glad to see you like your 600.

Flying a hard 3D routine, your looking at about 5-6 minutes of flight, but thats all usually a routine last...you can only go through so many tricks untill you run out and have to start combining.

Average nice smooth flight is about 7-10 minutes, depending on hs and pitch.

Laurens · 06-11-2006, 04:57 AM

Jurrien, thats easy.

Charging 4 packs versus charging just one pack :mrgreen:

aaronredbaron · 06-13-2006, 05:26 PM

I think one important thing to note is that by going with a higher voltage setup, the amp draw comes down to get to the same watts, which means you wouldn't be using a 10s2p 4200mah on a T-Rex 600, more likely it would use a 10s 3000 or 2500, keeping the cost, weight, size and everything else close to the 6s setup. especially if you can do a 10s 1p pack, cuz that is actually less cells than the 12 cells in a 6s 2p config. and a fair amount of the cost is in the assembly. The perfect setup in my book should be able to keep the packs down around 120' and still provide 10 min of basic flight. If we go 10s I think it would be easier to find this compromise, and keep the amp draw down enough to use the ~3000 mah or so packs without puffing the magic dragon. If we stay with 6s and wait for the C ratings to catch up, the flight times are not going to improve, and 5- 6 min of 3D is awfully short.... I would like to see the 600 run on higher voltage myself, I love the lightining bolt sparks I get when I plug in my Ion...high voltage baby, YEAH !!! :twisted:

Finless · 06-13-2006, 06:46 PM

aaronredbaron,
I see your from Chino Hills? Any chance I know you?

Bob

aaronredbaron · 06-13-2006, 07:10 PM

I doubt it, but you may recognize me from the videos I have made for DeeTeeEnterprises. I just moved to cali from portland to be the editor for RC heli magazine ... I need new flying buddies ( not that I could "replace" all my friends back home)... want to go flying sometime???

Finless · 06-13-2006, 07:21 PM

Yea.. where you flyin? Circle City flyers or Prado PVMAC? I am a member of PVMAC and was flying at Prado until all the politics out there banned us to the back yard (cant fly out in front anymore). Jeff Fassbinder flys out at Prado and he is just about the only heli guy oth there right now....

Right now I fly out at Arbor park in Los Alimitos or out at Carson... In fact weekend after next Carson flyers are having a fun fly.....

Bob

aaronredbaron · 06-13-2006, 07:27 PM

I am up for anything, this weekend I am off to ohio for the XFC, but I have been joining the guys in Brea by carbon canyon on sundays, very nice group of guys, and a nice spot for helis (no good for planks)

Finless · 06-13-2006, 07:35 PM

You mean the OCHC and suzuki field? I personally dont care for that site myself. Let me know when you get back and see if you want to come out to Carson for the fun fly. The location is here:

aaronredbaron · 06-13-2006, 07:37 PM

could be, It is kinda tight there. I would be glad to come out to where ever you fly

Gregory Jones · 06-13-2006, 09:15 PM

bob are you IRCHA

Finless · 06-13-2006, 09:34 PM

Quote:

bob are you IRCHA

Huh? not sure what you mean? Are you asking if I am going to IRCHA? The answer to that is no this year.

Bob

supertrex2 · 06-21-2006, 10:04 PM

I dont see the video...

Garland · 06-23-2006, 12:22 AM

word has it that the szabos werent flying the Align packs in the XFC but a new improved 6s pack from TP.

A 6s 50 sized heli is nowhere near the Optimal setup be it for beginner or expert. Align is feeding us soup.

Buy the frame and put a better power system in it. Way too much effort by Align to sell us this 6s2p turd of a setup. Heli is nice it seems, If they have finally got their quality issues worked out.

palmsprings · 06-23-2006, 11:53 PM

bob, when will the trex 600 be available?and thru what distributor's. thanks.

ChrisT88 · 07-24-2006, 12:34 PM

I talked with Danny and Alan Sr in San Diego and one of them (can't remember which now) mentioned Danny swelled a 6s2p.

06-09-2006, 01:26 PM	#21 (permalink)
king kong Registered Users Join Date: May 2006	Collective management? these guys are running 12-13 degrees of pitch in their helis. They may have colllective management, but they're smoothe STICK BANGERS, and stick banging draws more amps than just flying the heli around. Just so u guys know, the align speed control and motor are only designed for 6s, and will burn up on 10s. __________________ Make it go BOOM Team Flightpower

06-09-2006, 04:09 PM	#22 (permalink)
king kong Registered Users Join Date: May 2006	[quote="Laurens"]Jurrien, I heard the Szabo's have reported to have swelled already 2 packs of 6s.quote] Ok, i just got confirmation from Alan sr, and he informed me that they have NOT puffed any of their packs flying the 600 Frank __________________ Make it go BOOM Team Flightpower

06-09-2006, 04:43 PM	#23 (permalink)
Laurens Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2004	Ok personal conformation is more likely to be true then something I read on RCgroups. However I still insist that 8s should be the minimum for 3D. 10s is the best for both the pack and power. __________________ Logo 800/Jeti DS16

06-10-2006, 11:42 PM	#26 (permalink)
AlpineCH.21 Registered Users Join Date: May 2006	Hey Nick nice flight, glad to see you like your 600. Flying a hard 3D routine, your looking at about 5-6 minutes of flight, but thats all usually a routine last...you can only go through so many tricks untill you run out and have to start combining. Average nice smooth flight is about 7-10 minutes, depending on hs and pitch. __________________ ...Please have you MasterCard out and ready after each flight...

06-11-2006, 04:57 AM	#27 (permalink)
Laurens Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Apr 2004	Jurrien, thats easy. Charging 4 packs versus charging just one pack :mrgreen: __________________ Logo 800/Jeti DS16

06-10-2006, 11:25 AM	#24 (permalink)
Heli_Freak_de Join Date: May 2006	Flown with 6s2p (4 packs of Align 2100/16C): http://uploadfile.putfile.com/videos/15917592655.wmv I think with new cells from Flightpower, TP or Xcell it's no problem for 6s. It's also much cheaper to load and balance 6s

06-10-2006, 03:31 PM	#25 (permalink)
skywalkertje Registered Users Join Date: Mar 2006	Great video! How would you build your 6S 20C from flightpower? 3700 6S 1p (very easy to balance and load, but a bit low on capacity) or 4200 6S 2p 4*2100 (a bit heavier but more AMPS) same config as the aligns I hope to see further evidence that all will be fine on 6S if you keep the flights under 5 min...

06-13-2006, 05:26 PM	#28 (permalink)
aaronredbaron Registered Users Join Date: May 2006	I think one important thing to note is that by going with a higher voltage setup, the amp draw comes down to get to the same watts, which means you wouldn't be using a 10s2p 4200mah on a T-Rex 600, more likely it would use a 10s 3000 or 2500, keeping the cost, weight, size and everything else close to the 6s setup. especially if you can do a 10s 1p pack, cuz that is actually less cells than the 12 cells in a 6s 2p config. and a fair amount of the cost is in the assembly. The perfect setup in my book should be able to keep the packs down around 120' and still provide 10 min of basic flight. If we go 10s I think it would be easier to find this compromise, and keep the amp draw down enough to use the ~3000 mah or so packs without puffing the magic dragon. If we stay with 6s and wait for the C ratings to catch up, the flight times are not going to improve, and 5- 6 min of 3D is awfully short.... I would like to see the 600 run on higher voltage myself, I love the lightining bolt sparks I get when I plug in my Ion...high voltage baby, YEAH !!! :twisted: __________________ good times and happy landings

06-13-2006, 06:46 PM	#29 (permalink)
Finless Team Taco VP Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2005	aaronredbaron, I see your from Chino Hills? Any chance I know you? Bob __________________ "Don't Taco My Pack Dude!" NEW Video Link -> Safety Video #1 Video Link -> CAUTION using powerful tools! Video Link -> How to CRASH TWICE in one flight! Video Link -> Don't Taco!

06-13-2006, 07:10 PM	#30 (permalink)
aaronredbaron Registered Users Join Date: May 2006	I doubt it, but you may recognize me from the videos I have made for DeeTeeEnterprises. I just moved to cali from portland to be the editor for RC heli magazine ... I need new flying buddies ( not that I could "replace" all my friends back home)... want to go flying sometime??? __________________ good times and happy landings

06-13-2006, 07:21 PM	#31 (permalink)
Finless Team Taco VP Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2005	Yea.. where you flyin? Circle City flyers or Prado PVMAC? I am a member of PVMAC and was flying at Prado until all the politics out there banned us to the back yard (cant fly out in front anymore). Jeff Fassbinder flys out at Prado and he is just about the only heli guy oth there right now.... Right now I fly out at Arbor park in Los Alimitos or out at Carson... In fact weekend after next Carson flyers are having a fun fly..... Bob __________________ "Don't Taco My Pack Dude!" NEW Video Link -> Safety Video #1 Video Link -> CAUTION using powerful tools! Video Link -> How to CRASH TWICE in one flight! Video Link -> Don't Taco!

06-13-2006, 07:27 PM	#32 (permalink)
aaronredbaron Registered Users Join Date: May 2006	I am up for anything, this weekend I am off to ohio for the XFC, but I have been joining the guys in Brea by carbon canyon on sundays, very nice group of guys, and a nice spot for helis (no good for planks) __________________ good times and happy landings

06-13-2006, 07:37 PM	#34 (permalink)
aaronredbaron Registered Users Join Date: May 2006	could be, It is kinda tight there. I would be glad to come out to where ever you fly __________________ good times and happy landings

06-13-2006, 09:15 PM	#35 (permalink)
Gregory Jones Registered Users Join Date: Jun 2006	bob are you IRCHA

06-21-2006, 10:04 PM	#37 (permalink)
supertrex2 Registered Users Join Date: May 2006	I dont see the video... __________________ oh ohh its going down...S$%#T...relax.. relax.... concentrate......try to control.. oooops too late... already crashed!

06-23-2006, 12:22 AM	#38 (permalink)
Garland Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2004	word has it that the szabos werent flying the Align packs in the XFC but a new improved 6s pack from TP. A 6s 50 sized heli is nowhere near the Optimal setup be it for beginner or expert. Align is feeding us soup. Buy the frame and put a better power system in it. Way too much effort by Align to sell us this 6s2p turd of a setup. Heli is nice it seems, If they have finally got their quality issues worked out.

06-23-2006, 11:53 PM	#39 (permalink)
palmsprings Registered Users Join Date: May 2006	trex 600 bob, when will the trex 600 be available?and thru what distributor's. thanks.

07-24-2006, 12:34 PM	#40 (permalink)
ChrisT88 Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2004	I talked with Danny and Alan Sr in San Diego and one of them (can't remember which now) mentioned Danny swelled a 6s2p.

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