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06-13-2014, 10:05 AM | #41 (permalink) |
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Everything at once (except for my preferred rates) I put in another users settings from the Goblin 500 forum. I had tweaked and tweaked gradually (LCD field panel) until I simply lost my way.
Some day.... SOME DAY... they will have a little intelligent FBL unit that simply tunes itself! You would think they could with today's technology... you just set tail direction and collective degrees and preferred yaw/flip/roll rates and then just fly a few times and it senses everything.. and tunes itself to fly perfectly. Why can't we do this yet?
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06-13-2014, 10:33 AM | #42 (permalink) |
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=] nothing has been removed? and I can't see where else you have posted it, send it again please!
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06-13-2014, 10:35 AM | #43 (permalink) |
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Ok, I saw that post.
I just put some rotortech 515's on the Goblin and wow way more blade!!!! Much wider and just that little bit longer. I may need to move down to a 17 tooth motor pulley and tweak some settings. Good to know those other numbers are working good for you.
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Anyway, V-Bar 6 will have a bailout.. You can clearly hear the new V-Bar Transmitter calling out "Rescue Start!" and "Rescue Ended, Master" when the heli flips to up-right tail-in.. 1:33 is the first demonstrations.. This version doesn't have GPS, but he clearly states at the end in english that it will when it ships. I do like how it pushes away from the ground to flip over rather than the SK's swinging the tail around first. Maybe someone who speaks German can fill us in on the details?
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06-16-2014, 07:50 AM | #45 (permalink) |
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Very interesting! Especially with them having their own TX as well, which doubles as a real time tuning and setup tool all in one. It should make for a very nice package knowing the great reputation they have, but we will need to see in time what the actual features and capabilities are
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06-16-2014, 08:05 AM | #46 (permalink) |
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I wanted to translate for you guys...
First I thought the guy on the mic speaks a really bad dialect. But I couldn't understand a word. I reckon its Finnish or Swedish... The pilot is German but you can't understand him
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06-16-2014, 02:55 PM | #47 (permalink) |
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=] Thanks for (re) posting!
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06-16-2014, 07:13 PM | #48 (permalink) |
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maybe its Swiss-German dialect?...Ill ask my friends from Bern if they understand....
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06-16-2014, 07:50 PM | #49 (permalink) |
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Any word on if the new update addresses the auto-rotation bailout issue's I've brought up quite a few times??
At this post and others? https://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=577975 |
06-17-2014, 01:30 AM | #50 (permalink) | |
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I think I would understand Swiss-German. Im pretty sure its a northern tounge. But give it a try.
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06-17-2014, 10:37 PM | #52 (permalink) | |
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The Skookum take much in the development of its products and it has a price. There is a concept known as "Time to market". Where Skookum pioneered, now several options are beginning to emerge. And this Vbar, which is already a leader in the 3D segment, now flirts with bail out and GPS. The competitors are fast approaching. Until then, were small companies, with capacity to produce dozens, now comes up a choice of a company able to meet with batches of hundreds of units. I'm starting to have a feeling that soon there will be several other "Abandon ship!", as we saw a case here in this topic. I also prefer it like that, and imagine how it will be with the use of GPS and barometer... |
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06-17-2014, 11:09 PM | #53 (permalink) |
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First to me it doesn't look like it pushes away from the ground - threw the whole video it looks like he is controlling and applying the collective himself. I'm no saying it doesn't I'm saying its hard to conclude such things from a video. Unless that is what you want to see - than its much easier
And saying Vbar is a leader in 3d is a metter of preference - i left Vbar because to me the control feel of SK was much better. I have only sk540 by the way i have no need for bailout. And still prefered it. Flybarless preference, IMHO, is a metter of personal taste.
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06-18-2014, 06:35 AM | #54 (permalink) | |
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Omerco, I´m was talking about the behaviour. If this vídeo is a simulation and the pilot is totaly responsable by the manouver, I´m still thinking that this a template to the bail out manouver. And right, I´m not interested to begin a poll about which is the most beloved. I prefer the SK´s behaviour in 3D too. But is expected that the community of Mikado Users are dozens times larger than other systems. This don´t means a kind of leadership? |
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06-18-2014, 09:01 AM | #56 (permalink) |
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That explains the price.
I wondered how the SK-GPS held altitude so well. I didn't think GPS in general was very accurate in the vertical. I wonder how much rotor wash affects the sensor. Where is the static port located? I'm no engineer, but it seems to me that getting the helicopter out of danger should be the first step. Once the helicopter is safe moving the tail to the pilot would be the next thing to do. Moving the tail in first make sense if the pilot has at least some control, but the SK-GPS and SK720 take all control away.
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06-18-2014, 09:02 AM | #57 (permalink) |
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Fact is Vbar where almost the only high end gyro's for long time. This has changed. If you look at the price drop on Vbars the last couple of years you would know about their sales and market share as well-not as it was.
For us - the competition is great more functions, better controllers and HW and better prices.
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I think this too uses the GPS and altitude sensors. In some cases it seems that there are readings outside the range of the sensors and SK does not confront these measurements with Gyros and Accelerometers to certify the information, which makes the heli vary in height and position. One example is when the GPS is not locked and uses the Altitude Hold mode and the other is when activating the Position Hold mode for fast forward flight. In both, the control loop uses information from GPS and barometer, but it seems to prioritize the gyros and accelerometers. What I consider most appropriate. |
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06-18-2014, 10:53 AM | #59 (permalink) |
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Altimeters are not extremely precise instruments inherently, particularly at the scale we deal with. In full-scale settings, the lack of precision is nearly inconsequential.
Garmin's avionics grade barometric altimeters are only accurate to 10' with proper and regular calibration. US FAR's 43 only require 80 feet of precision at 10,000 feet. Everything from temperature, humidity and even wind (low & high pressure swings) can effect their readings; gps is even less precise for a whole other set of reasons (national security, etc..) Gyros and accelerometers tell you nothing about altitude. If you really want to know how complicated and error prone calculating altitude from air pressure is, you can do some reading here.. http://www.hills-database.co.uk/altim.html There will never not be some altitude drift without ground detecting radar or other precise and high frequency measuring solution (ultra-sonic?). |
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