Spartan AP2000i or Robbe Heli Command?

[MarkWebber]

One more question.. does Spartan's "digital cyclic ring" work when the Tx has cyclic split onto two sticks? I think so, as from the manual it seems to rely on electronic inputs for elev and ail, irrespective of the Tx configuration. If so, this is a bonus

I'm inclined to agree but I've only used it on my single stick cyclic. I do like the feature alot, though.
BTW...Why would you be running 2 stick cyclic?

[GJestico]

mode 1 weirdo

[MarkWebber]

mode 1 weirdo

Glad you said it :wink:

[Tonystott]

B*stards Actually, down under (and in parts of Europe), Mode 1 is "normal" especially for people who started in planks. Without in any way possibly () starting a religious debate on the subject, I gather that the benefits on one are not great enough to justify the pain of switching to the other. If I was starting over though, I would have gone Mode 2.

But my helis fly inspite of this handicap

[Angelos]

One more question.. does Spartan's "digital cyclic ring" work when the Tx has cyclic split onto two sticks? I think so, as from the manual it seems to rely on electronic inputs for elev and ail, irrespective of the Tx configuration. If so, this is a bonus

Yes it works with split cyclic. The AP-2000i does not know and does not care where the aileron and elevator inputs come from. Its task is to keep the swashplate deflection within a circle to ensure it does not bind. More importantly the digital cyclic ring operates after the flight stabiliser and thus also eliminates binding caused by large corrections generated from the stabiliser. Such large corrections are not uncommon if you use the system for an emergency bailout. There is also a section on the AP-2000i user guide about this.

-Angelos

[Tonystott]

Thanks Angelos! Your active participation here is yet another great reason for me to gor for the Spartan

[MarkWebber]

Thanks Angelos! Your active participation here is yet another great reason for me to gor for the Spartan

That's what got me hooked too!

[GGoodrum]

I agree, having Angelos participate here is great. I believe it was at least partially because of the active discussions we had here a while back that the auto calibration feature was added. That's amazing!

-- Gary

[Angelos]

The new firmware is now available for download from our website. The user guide is also updated to describe the new functionality.

http://www.spartan-rc.com/products/ap2000i/ap2000i.htm

-Angelos

[Cryofix]

At leasst you wont get yelled at here Angelos

[dreslism]

Sweet. It's night here now, I hope the rain holds off tomorrow so I can try the in air calibration!

[Christopher J]

I can't speak with knowledge about the AP2000i and I've got nothing against it, but I don't care for the FMA sensor. When close to buildings, trees, or hills it had the tendency to "push" or "pull" the heli away. I've been doing some testing with the Robbe Helicommand that Aerial Images bought this summer. I like the braking effect it has when you let go of the sticks as well as the fact that you can dial in how much you want. This is really of no use for AP but I thought it was pretty neat. Beside from that it functions pretty much the same as other sensors and keeps the heli upright and holds a pretty nice hover. I also like the fact that it doesn't "read" a heat difference but senses movement and counters it. It's pretty much a 3 axis gyro with an optical sensor. I'm only using two of the axis since the heli already has a pretty nice gyro onboard.

[MasterCrash]

Originally Posted by Angelos

The new firmware is now available for download from our website. The user guide is also updated to describe the new functionality.

http://www.spartan-rc.com/products/ap2000i/ap2000i.htm

-Angelos

I am using the Spred Spectrum 2.4 Ghz radio/Reciever system. I would like to know if this spartan ap2000 will work with it. I do NOT have any "Spare" channels however I could switch to a Standard Gyro that you set manually henceforth freeing up one of my channels. :?:

[Tonystott]

I don't believe the Spartan AP2000i has any relationship with 2.4Ghz so I can't imagine why there should be a compatibility issue.

[MarkWebber]

MasterCrash

The AP2000i is only concerned with the servo signal, not the tx frequency. Provided you are not using a 4 servo CCPM swashplate, you may setup the AP2000i to control your gyro gain thereby freeing up a channel to operate the stabilization gain setting on the AP2000i.

[MasterCrash]

Originally Posted by MarkWebber

The AP2000i is only concerned with the servo signal, not the tx frequency. Provided you are not using a 4 servo CCPM swashplate, you may setup the AP2000i to control your gyro gain thereby freeing up a channel to operate the stabilization gain setting on the AP2000i.

THANX!! :glasses2:

[Aguia2]

Hello,
I'm trying to flash the new firmware but the bootloader doesn't seem to detect any com ports!
The usb cable seemed to be detected ok by windows xp (it has no special drivers, right?)
Anyone had this problem?

thanks,
Emilio

[MarkWebber]

Yes, there are drivers for the USB Flashlink. Go to http://www.spartan-rc.com/products/f.../flashlink.htm and download and install the driver there.

[Aguia2]

Gee... that was real fast tech support answer... thanks. Sorry i shoul'd have recheked the website before asking.

Anyway, my flash cable is the one with the black plug and is not working with xp sp2 and it is not giving me the option to search the internet.

May i install the drivers for the blue plug flash cable? or there is some link or way to manually install the black plug drivers?

[Angelos]

Go to the Device Manager and check if the cable is listed under the serial ports section. If it shows up with a question mark icon next to it then delete it, remove the cable and attach it again. Allow windows to search for a driver and make sure that the driver is found before exiting the new hardware wizard. Read the messages carefully. Often windows will say that no driver is found but will still let you click on the "finish" button.

Don’t install the blue plug drivers. The cables have completely different USB controllers and the drivers are not compatible. Let Windows search everywhere for the driver and should be ok. If it still tells you that no driver is found contact me and I will find you a copy to install manually.

-Angelos