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utrinque · 03-08-2013, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocketman777

What advantages do you see over the MRS Blades?

Try it, you'll see...

OK I can list some advantages of T-Rex 100 blades on Nano:
- longer flight times
- much more precise controll of cyclics
- more punch, faster acceleration when needed
- much better stability
- Align blades are longer and difference is like between 600 and 600 stretched to 700
- less drag, Align blades generate less aerodynamic resistance, they have less built in positive pitch, are less asymmetric
- much better sound (more bass

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- crash resistance not compromised
- Align blades are much cheaper (half price of mSR blades at least in Poland)
- Align blades can be screwed much tighter in blade grips without generating vibrations during the flight.
- flips and rolls are much easier outdoors and result in less height loss comparing to mSR blades.

Rakonheli swash plate and Align T-Rex 100 blades made my Nano fly much "bigger", faster, more precise and due to this precission I do crash much les often.

H I G H L Y
R E C O M M E N D E D setup...

Rocketman777 · 03-08-2013, 11:23 AM

Thanks for the info! I am set up right now with MSR blades and will rogram my DX7 this week and give it a go. I will also look for a good source for Align 100 blades. Can you post pictures of the work that needs to be done the Align blades?

Thanks!

utrinque · 03-08-2013, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocketman777

Thanks for the info! I am set up right now with MSR blades and will rogram my DX7 this week and give it a go. I will also look for a good source for Align 100 blades. Can you post pictures of the work that needs to be done the Align blades?
Thanks!

voila...

Rocketman777 · 03-08-2013, 09:09 PM

Nice work! So aero is better with the 100 blades over the MSR- is the hover stability better as well? Also, how are the o rings working out - are they necessary?

Thanks!

utrinque · 03-08-2013, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocketman777

Nice work! So aero is better with the 100 blades over the MSR- is the hover stability better as well? Also, how are the o rings working out - are they necessary?

Thanks!

Hover stability is better. You get orings with RKH swash. I did not fly without them.

utrinque · 03-09-2013, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichKnapp

I have a pair of XTreme CB 100 +1 blades here I'm going to try out. I got them for a mod on another heli I used to have, but they didn't work.

Those blades generate much more drag, aerodynamic resistance and lift. They are ok for 1S mCP X. With them mCP X is ultra stable on low RPM in normal mode.

Nano motor is to weak for them.

Drew816 · 03-13-2013, 12:51 PM

Okay so I got a set of the Align blades; how do you fit them to the Nano's blade grips? From the stock 100 blades I'd guess You snip off the leading edge thingie and then what file down the thick mounting area stuffs until the blades for the stock grips? Then you line them up and drill holes in each blade in of course the exact same spot and you're done?

I tried the Walkera CB100's and the tracking was so bad that I just gave up and went back to stock so I hope I don't have the same luck with these...

Happy Flying!

Rocketman777 · 06-03-2013, 09:34 AM

With this Mod, which blades work best with a BL conversion? Is anyone running the Align100/MSRX/MSR main rotors on a BL conversion?

Thanks

RichKnapp · 06-04-2013, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by utrinque

Those blades generate much more drag, aerodynamic resistance and lift. They are ok for 1S mCP X. With them mCP X is ultra stable on low RPM in normal mode.

Nano motor is to weak for them.

Sorry I'm way late. Yes I found that out. A BIG NO GO. lol

utrinque · 07-11-2013, 04:11 PM

Here you can find my statement regarding brushed motors longevity with this mod:

https://www.helifreak.com/showpost.p...2&postcount=26

mba83 · 07-30-2013, 02:25 PM

Hi all,

I had some S107 blades that I tried on my nano CPX (the ones from the top rotor), and they also seem to work just fine! I had to set the pitch curve to something around 50% +/- (which is zero pitch). I first needed to use subtrim in stunt mode to ensure that 50% pitch matches to zero pitch of the blades.

Anyone else tries the Syma S107 blades?

MBA

utrinque · 08-01-2013, 02:28 PM

There are right and left turning blades. Motor rotation of brushed motor should be reversable. I wonder if gyro would handle left rotating blades...

mba83 · 08-01-2013, 07:23 PM

Nah, you need to use the top (right rotating) blades. They seem to be of just perfect size for the nano.

MBA

mikem. · 08-07-2013, 09:24 PM

Thanks for all the info guys. I flew a Mcx and have bought a nano but first few flights not good. I tried the blades and it works much better. I plan on buying the o rings and trying them soon also.

utrinque · 09-11-2013, 05:27 PM

I have tried Syma 107G blades and do not like them. Nano is flyable but mSR blades create much less drag and tail holds much betterwith them.

Just my subjective experience.

ToddMcF2002 · 09-26-2013, 01:13 PM

I'm going to give this a try since my Nano is way beyond me but I'd like to try it again at least. Should I use the Dx4 transmitter or my DX6i? If I use my DX6i do I need to change my throttle curve and adjust D/R Expo? Anyone have settings they can share?

jcmo · 09-26-2013, 02:53 PM

It seems the feedback concerning the different blade mod is mixed...

With stock blades, I run

Throttle and Pitch set up like the mCPx instructions available here
https://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=399727

Low Rates
Elev: 70% Rate 25% Expo
Alie: 70% Rate 25% Expo
Rudd:100% Rate 25% Expo

High Rates
Elev: 100% Rate 0% Expo
Alie: 100% Rate 0% Expo
Rudd:100% Rate 0% Expo

When you're ready to get crazy try 125% rates. If you go much lower than 70% for training purposes or low rates, I feel you start to get into lack of control problems, then you can't bail out using a sharp input even if you know what needs to be done.

For more details, I highly recommend following the setup guide for the mCPx mentioned above.

I had mCPx first, and copied the profile to a different slot to customize it for the Nano, discovering that the Nano worked great with the tuned settings offered here for mCPx also.

It helps for me, just as on mCPx, to limit pitch travel to 75% to prevent excessive bogging on the main rotor.

Sorry, off topic.

ToddMcF2002 · 09-27-2013, 10:13 AM

Starting with the low rates makes sense to me with the MSR blades. My concern is the fixed lift of the blades and should I worry about the throttle curve or will the reduced RPMs make that a non-concern?

utrinque · 09-27-2013, 12:55 PM

Do not be affraid to experiment.

I really like DX 4 for Nano.

If You use DX 6 or higher start with settings described in manual.

darowden · 02-21-2014, 04:13 PM

I tried the MSR blades on my Nano CP X with the same settings I was using on my DX6i with the stock CP blades. Much more stable, less twitchy, and doesn't just drift off in one direction out of a hover for no apparent reason like it did with the stock blades bulleted or bulletless.

I confirm this works well. Even flew it out in 10-15 mph wind, able to hold loose hover for about 2-3 min before getting blown down, with a bit of work, but with the stock blades I might last 15 seconds at best in that wind.

For a new CP learner like me, this is great. It's a confidence builder. Note that they still work with collective pitch settings, for those that say it is now a FP heli. Still CP, just not 3D CP.

Hmmm ..I wonder what my Blade 300X would fly like with say, MJX F45 rotor blades installed..

07-30-2013, 02:25 PM	#111 (permalink)
mba83 Registered Users Join Date: Jul 2013	S107 blades Hi all, I had some S107 blades that I tried on my nano CPX (the ones from the top rotor), and they also seem to work just fine! I had to set the pitch curve to something around 50% +/- (which is zero pitch). I first needed to use subtrim in stunt mode to ensure that 50% pitch matches to zero pitch of the blades. Anyone else tries the Syma S107 blades? MBA

08-01-2013, 07:23 PM	#113 (permalink)
mba83 Registered Users Join Date: Jul 2013	S107 blades Nah, you need to use the top (right rotating) blades. They seem to be of just perfect size for the nano. MBA

09-26-2013, 02:53 PM	#117 (permalink)
jcmo Registered Users Join Date: Mar 2013	It seems the feedback concerning the different blade mod is mixed... With stock blades, I run Throttle and Pitch set up like the mCPx instructions available here https://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=399727 Low Rates Elev: 70% Rate 25% Expo Alie: 70% Rate 25% Expo Rudd:100% Rate 25% Expo High Rates Elev: 100% Rate 0% Expo Alie: 100% Rate 0% Expo Rudd:100% Rate 0% Expo When you're ready to get crazy try 125% rates. If you go much lower than 70% for training purposes or low rates, I feel you start to get into lack of control problems, then you can't bail out using a sharp input even if you know what needs to be done. For more details, I highly recommend following the setup guide for the mCPx mentioned above. I had mCPx first, and copied the profile to a different slot to customize it for the Nano, discovering that the Nano worked great with the tuned settings offered here for mCPx also. It helps for me, just as on mCPx, to limit pitch travel to 75% to prevent excessive bogging on the main rotor. Sorry, off topic. __________________ FP - Blade mCX2/mSR {x2}/Nano QX{x2}/120SR - Syma s107g - Xieda 9998{x2} CP - Blade Nano CPx/mCPx(v2+BL {x2})/CP Pro 2(Scale Build in Progress)/300x/300xSS(Benched) TX - Spektrum DX6i/DX8

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03-08-2013, 11:23 AM	#102 (permalink)
Rocketman777 Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2009	Thanks for the info! I am set up right now with MSR blades and will rogram my DX7 this week and give it a go. I will also look for a good source for Align 100 blades. Can you post pictures of the work that needs to be done the Align blades? Thanks!

03-08-2013, 09:09 PM	#104 (permalink)
Rocketman777 Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2009	Nice work! So aero is better with the 100 blades over the MSR- is the hover stability better as well? Also, how are the o rings working out - are they necessary? Thanks!

03-13-2013, 12:51 PM	#107 (permalink)
Drew816 Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2008	Okay so I got a set of the Align blades; how do you fit them to the Nano's blade grips? From the stock 100 blades I'd guess You snip off the leading edge thingie and then what file down the thick mounting area stuffs until the blades for the stock grips? Then you line them up and drill holes in each blade in of course the exact same spot and you're done? I tried the Walkera CB100's and the tracking was so bad that I just gave up and went back to stock so I hope I don't have the same luck with these... Happy Flying!

06-03-2013, 09:34 AM	#108 (permalink)
Rocketman777 Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2009	With this Mod, which blades work best with a BL conversion? Is anyone running the Align100/MSRX/MSR main rotors on a BL conversion? Thanks

07-11-2013, 04:11 PM	#110 (permalink)
utrinque Thread Starter Join Date: Feb 2011	Here you can find my statement regarding brushed motors longevity with this mod: https://www.helifreak.com/showpost.p...2&postcount=26

08-01-2013, 02:28 PM	#112 (permalink)
utrinque Thread Starter Join Date: Feb 2011	There are right and left turning blades. Motor rotation of brushed motor should be reversable. I wonder if gyro would handle left rotating blades...

08-07-2013, 09:24 PM	#114 (permalink)
mikem. Registered Users Join Date: Jul 2013	Thanks for all the info guys. I flew a Mcx and have bought a nano but first few flights not good. I tried the blades and it works much better. I plan on buying the o rings and trying them soon also.

09-11-2013, 05:27 PM	#115 (permalink)
utrinque Thread Starter Join Date: Feb 2011	I have tried Syma 107G blades and do not like them. Nano is flyable but mSR blades create much less drag and tail holds much betterwith them. Just my subjective experience.

09-26-2013, 01:13 PM	#116 (permalink)
ToddMcF2002 Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2013	I'm going to give this a try since my Nano is way beyond me but I'd like to try it again at least. Should I use the Dx4 transmitter or my DX6i? If I use my DX6i do I need to change my throttle curve and adjust D/R Expo? Anyone have settings they can share?

09-27-2013, 10:13 AM	#118 (permalink)
ToddMcF2002 Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2013	Starting with the low rates makes sense to me with the MSR blades. My concern is the fixed lift of the blades and should I worry about the throttle curve or will the reduced RPMs make that a non-concern?

09-27-2013, 12:55 PM	#119 (permalink)
utrinque Thread Starter Join Date: Feb 2011	Do not be affraid to experiment. I really like DX 4 for Nano. If You use DX 6 or higher start with settings described in manual.

02-21-2014, 04:13 PM	#120 (permalink)
darowden Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2014	I tried the MSR blades on my Nano CP X with the same settings I was using on my DX6i with the stock CP blades. Much more stable, less twitchy, and doesn't just drift off in one direction out of a hover for no apparent reason like it did with the stock blades bulleted or bulletless. I confirm this works well. Even flew it out in 10-15 mph wind, able to hold loose hover for about 2-3 min before getting blown down, with a bit of work, but with the stock blades I might last 15 seconds at best in that wind. For a new CP learner like me, this is great. It's a confidence builder. Note that they still work with collective pitch settings, for those that say it is now a FP heli. Still CP, just not 3D CP. Hmmm ..I wonder what my Blade 300X would fly like with say, MJX F45 rotor blades installed..

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