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Cryofix · 11-02-2006, 08:04 PM

Does your SLR show a full time view of what the lens see's similar to a point and shoot? My olympus will only show the photo taken but not what I am looking at..

it only displays the readings and settings as the default view, so I am not sure how I can frame a picture with the AV downlink if I cant see what I am looking at.

MLaBoyteaux · 11-02-2006, 09:23 PM

Nope. I've got a color board camera that inserts into the hot shoe and looks through the view finder. It's home made, but there are some for sale already built.

I think Black Widow sells one.

oscillator · 11-02-2006, 11:26 PM

No true DSLR will show a preview on the screen. This is because the sensor is behind the mirror. The mirror is reflecting the image up into the viewfinder. Once you press the shutter button the mirror flips up out of the way and the shutter opens to expose the sensor.

You might be able to get full time preview on some of the "prosumer" or "hybrid" cameras that are billed as a step up from the point and shoots but aren't true DSLRs.

LoopBaCK · 11-03-2006, 07:11 AM

Nope... same as Mark. Home-built setup using a board camera that fits on a Canon EP-EX15 Eyepiece Extender whichin turn mounts to the camera.

Even though it was extra work I kinda like the setup...

MLaBoyteaux · 11-03-2006, 07:13 AM

Hey Wes, where did you get the eyepiece extender?

dreslism · 11-03-2006, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MLaBoyteaux

Hey Wes, where did you get the eyepiece extender?

I am doing the same thing Wes is doing. It is the canon ep-ex15 eyepiece extender.

Here is a picture of it.

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-EP-EX15-.../dp/B0000AQI9E

I have the blackwidow 161 with 17 degree fov.

http://www.blackwidowav.com/CX161_17.html

I took some 3mm 35 or 30mm long bolts and drilled and tapped the back of the eyepiece extender to basically thread the camera onto the eyepiece extender.

The cool part is I just slide the ep-ex15 onto the back of the camera to fly, and slide it off when done for ground use. I already had a downlink, so total for the camera and eyepiece was under $100.

With that camera and eyepiece extender, you can set it up to view the whole viewfinder, exposure settings and all.

You can probably get the ep-ex15 at a local camera shop.

MLaBoyteaux · 11-03-2006, 08:29 AM

Sweet! I ran into a problem with my Rebel on the arch frames. Because my eyepiece camera is kinda large, it hits the frame on the gimbal if I try to tilt it down past about 60 degrees. If I could fabricate it like yours is, I would have enough clearance.

Usually, it's not a problem, but last weekend we were trying to photograph a construction site and needed a nearly vertical image. Cameraman couldn't line up the shot he wanted. Gotta keep the cameraman happy!

LoopBaCK · 11-03-2006, 08:49 AM

I think I bought two of them off eBay for about $7 each.

I originally made a box like yours - that connects into the hot-shoe. But it bumped into the mount fairly easily so started playing with the eyepieces because they could be solidly mounted and provide great clearance. Uses the same board cam as Scott.

Cryofix · 11-03-2006, 02:31 PM

Thanks for all the info, now its off to find the best solution.

LoopBaCK · 11-05-2006, 02:52 PM

Here's a few pics of my little creation. Not too pretty but it works...

Cryofix · 11-05-2006, 09:58 PM

That looks good, is the camera flush with eyepiece?

LoopBaCK · 11-06-2006, 08:43 AM

The barrel of the camera lens actually fits into the eyepiece opening about 1mm - just touching the eyepiece lens. I had to adjust the camera lens focus a bit but flush seemed to work the best.

MLaBoyteaux · 11-06-2006, 08:47 AM

Thanks for the tip Wes, I picked one up at a local camera shop on Friday, now I need to find the time to reconfigure my board camera.

goolfietis · 11-10-2006, 06:47 AM

Check out Olympus E330 - it`s the only DSLR now, that has a live video out...

TopView · 11-12-2006, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoopBaCK

The barrel of the camera lens actually fits into the eyepiece opening about 1mm - just touching the eyepiece lens. I had to adjust the camera lens focus a bit but flush seemed to work the best.

Hey Loopback,

On what type of canon do you use this beatifull solution. Do you get a fullscreen image on your monitor. What kind of camera do you use and with what lens.

I build a simmilar solution but won't get a full pic on my monitor.

Rene

dreslism · 11-12-2006, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TopView

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoopBaCK

The barrel of the camera lens actually fits into the eyepiece opening about 1mm - just touching the eyepiece lens. I had to adjust the camera lens focus a bit but flush seemed to work the best.

Hey Loopback,

On what type of canon do you use this beatifull solution. Do you get a fullscreen image on your monitor. What kind of camera do you use and with what lens.

I build a simmilar solution but won't get a full pic on my monitor.

Rene

As stated above, both Wes and I are using the same camera, this one here:

http://www.blackwidowav.com/CX161_17.html

17 degree lens on it as shown in the link above. It provides full view on our screens.

11-02-2006, 08:04 PM	#1 (permalink)
Cryofix HeliFreak Security Staff My HF Map location Join Date: Jun 2006	AV downlink does your SLR.... Does your SLR show a full time view of what the lens see's similar to a point and shoot? My olympus will only show the photo taken but not what I am looking at.. it only displays the readings and settings as the default view, so I am not sure how I can frame a picture with the AV downlink if I cant see what I am looking at. __________________ MSH Protos FBL SK720 Trex 600 14S A123 CCHV110 Actro 24-3 Trex 600 AP 12S A123 CCHV85 NEU 1912 1y Gaui 200 Trex 450 SE V2 Dedicated night Rig

11-02-2006, 09:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
MLaBoyteaux Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: May 2005	Nope. I've got a color board camera that inserts into the hot shoe and looks through the view finder. It's home made, but there are some for sale already built. I think Black Widow sells one. __________________ Mark LaBoyteaux http://www.hawkeyemedia.com Vario Benzine Trainer 23cc 810mm Maxi Joker 2 with Carvec Maxi Joker 2 with AP2000 Logo 10 Stretched

11-02-2006, 11:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
oscillator Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2006	No true DSLR will show a preview on the screen. This is because the sensor is behind the mirror. The mirror is reflecting the image up into the viewfinder. Once you press the shutter button the mirror flips up out of the way and the shutter opens to expose the sensor. You might be able to get full time preview on some of the "prosumer" or "hybrid" cameras that are billed as a step up from the point and shoots but aren't true DSLRs. __________________ ---------- Mark Scrivener San Jose, CA http://www.hoverimaging.com

11-03-2006, 07:11 AM	#4 (permalink)
LoopBaCK Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2005	Nope... same as Mark. Home-built setup using a board camera that fits on a Canon EP-EX15 Eyepiece Extender whichin turn mounts to the camera. Even though it was extra work I kinda like the setup... __________________ Wes

11-03-2006, 07:13 AM	#5 (permalink)
MLaBoyteaux Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: May 2005	Hey Wes, where did you get the eyepiece extender? __________________ Mark LaBoyteaux http://www.hawkeyemedia.com Vario Benzine Trainer 23cc 810mm Maxi Joker 2 with Carvec Maxi Joker 2 with AP2000 Logo 10 Stretched

11-03-2006, 08:29 AM	#7 (permalink)
MLaBoyteaux Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: May 2005	Sweet! I ran into a problem with my Rebel on the arch frames. Because my eyepiece camera is kinda large, it hits the frame on the gimbal if I try to tilt it down past about 60 degrees. If I could fabricate it like yours is, I would have enough clearance. Usually, it's not a problem, but last weekend we were trying to photograph a construction site and needed a nearly vertical image. Cameraman couldn't line up the shot he wanted. Gotta keep the cameraman happy! __________________ Mark LaBoyteaux http://www.hawkeyemedia.com Vario Benzine Trainer 23cc 810mm Maxi Joker 2 with Carvec Maxi Joker 2 with AP2000 Logo 10 Stretched

11-03-2006, 08:49 AM	#8 (permalink)
LoopBaCK Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2005	I think I bought two of them off eBay for about $7 each. I originally made a box like yours - that connects into the hot-shoe. But it bumped into the mount fairly easily so started playing with the eyepieces because they could be solidly mounted and provide great clearance. Uses the same board cam as Scott. __________________ Wes

11-03-2006, 02:31 PM	#9 (permalink)
Cryofix HeliFreak Security Staff Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Jun 2006	Thanks for all the info, now its off to find the best solution. __________________ MSH Protos FBL SK720 Trex 600 14S A123 CCHV110 Actro 24-3 Trex 600 AP 12S A123 CCHV85 NEU 1912 1y Gaui 200 Trex 450 SE V2 Dedicated night Rig

11-05-2006, 09:58 PM	#11 (permalink)
Cryofix HeliFreak Security Staff Thread Starter My HF Map location Join Date: Jun 2006	That looks good, is the camera flush with eyepiece? __________________ MSH Protos FBL SK720 Trex 600 14S A123 CCHV110 Actro 24-3 Trex 600 AP 12S A123 CCHV85 NEU 1912 1y Gaui 200 Trex 450 SE V2 Dedicated night Rig

11-06-2006, 08:43 AM	#12 (permalink)
LoopBaCK Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Nov 2005	The barrel of the camera lens actually fits into the eyepiece opening about 1mm - just touching the eyepiece lens. I had to adjust the camera lens focus a bit but flush seemed to work the best. __________________ Wes

11-06-2006, 08:47 AM	#13 (permalink)
MLaBoyteaux Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: May 2005	Thanks for the tip Wes, I picked one up at a local camera shop on Friday, now I need to find the time to reconfigure my board camera. __________________ Mark LaBoyteaux http://www.hawkeyemedia.com Vario Benzine Trainer 23cc 810mm Maxi Joker 2 with Carvec Maxi Joker 2 with AP2000 Logo 10 Stretched

11-10-2006, 06:47 AM	#14 (permalink)
goolfietis Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Oct 2006	Check out Olympus E330 - it`s the only DSLR now, that has a live video out...

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