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Black_heart · 06-22-2012, 06:36 PM

I was also one of the lucky ones to get to test this to from RDG.
I put it in My Hausler 450 AirWolf Fuselage I stell need to do a little more tweeking But

Hausler 450 AirWolf with Hobbymate HB800 (7 min 22 sec)

Razors · 06-23-2012, 12:54 AM

Perhaps i need one of these on a Tarot 450

satgod · 06-25-2012, 06:03 PM

I have some 600efls I can mount one on and do videos all day
would love to test one

I think I would like to be a U.S. dealer for them

I wouldnt pay 150-200 for a beast-x but for a good clone of one I would pay 60.00

Spork01 · 06-30-2012, 02:51 PM

The Hobbymate HB800 FBL gyro is now in stock at hobbycool

http://www.hobbycool.com/hobbymate-f...ers-p-715.html

Spork01 · 06-30-2012, 09:02 PM

a video from one of the test pilots

Airman0386 · 07-03-2012, 12:47 PM

So this HB800, or the tarot XYZ, or the copterx 3X1000?

khogan · 07-03-2012, 05:31 PM

lol even cloned the beastx description

http://www.beastx.com/products.html

http://www.hobbycool.com/hobbymate-f...ers-p-715.html

mayday1 · 07-03-2012, 07:06 PM

This hobbymate FBL seems to be a clone of beastx v1, which seems outrageous. I wonder if
it is sanctioned by microbeastx itself to create a lower cost alternative to compete with the new
crop of cheap FBL controllers like tarot, copterX, ...etc. If it is an outright stealing of IP, I would
expect you can get a HB800 and update it to beastX v2.0 firmware and beyond. The fact that
you'll turn it to a brick if you try to update indicates that they've actively changed something to
make it different. Without source code of the original beastx it'll not be an easy task. Besides,
why would they deliberately limit the upgrade path of this FBL unless it is in cooperation with beastx?

Just my conspiracy theory :-)

khogan · 07-03-2012, 08:15 PM

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...&postcount=238

"I also want clarify a couple of things.

1. the HB800 currently does not support satellites
2. The HB800 currently does not support sbus.

these features will be coming later when we update the firmware ."

It sounds like they will update the firmware, and right now there is not futaba/spektrum support.

I think with these clone units they are already making them for so cheap they would rather just sell a new one instead of making firmware updates. I doubt microbeast is working with them to make a cheaper unit. My conspiracy theory is that the BeastX I have says made in Germany but where is the spektrum/beastx unit made? Probably China so they got their hands on some code and made this unit.

mayday1 · 07-03-2012, 08:50 PM

I've never seen a AR7200BX, but I think they are made in china, so may be the code
could be lifted.

But I doubt the firmware of the AR7200BX is from v1.0 instead of the latest version, further more
I suspect it contains a satellite inside rather than a full receiver. There is no point in converting
the digital channel data into a PPM signal and then reconvert it back to a digital value if I were
to integrate a receiver with a gyro.

I agree with you in that I doubt they are actively working on the firmware. If they did a clean room
implementation, why would they use v1.0 as target instead of v2.0 or v3.0? I some how they
got a copy of v1.0 firmware, without the source code it wouldn't be easy to hack in satellite support.

koenigsegg · 07-04-2012, 05:49 AM

Does anyone have the pdf file?

Airman0386 · 07-04-2012, 10:18 PM

Which tail holds better?
HB800, Tarot XYZ, or the CopterX CX-3X1000?

clicky · 07-05-2012, 03:11 AM

At least someone went some length to do different PCB - not just steal whole lot and package it in cheap plastic case. LOL :p

Stevemech · 07-05-2012, 10:51 AM

I couldn't resist, I ordered one to replace my cx3x1000(for sale cheap).I installed a Robird g31 on my Beam and couldn't be happier so I hope this one is similar.
Steve

Spork01 · 07-05-2012, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koenigsegg

Does anyone have the pdf file?

I will be doing a video tutorial on how to setup the HB800 very shortly

Stevemech · 07-06-2012, 08:13 AM

Very cool, look forward to seeing your video!
Steve

MTDV · 07-06-2012, 10:23 AM

I cannot believe that...a Beastx similarity..., and dirt cheap. I will get one eventually when I get a chance. Beastx is good but too expensive. A good clone is better.

w4llet · 07-06-2012, 08:06 PM

does it have pyro compensation?

Spork01 · 07-07-2012, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by w4llet

does it have pyro compensation?

If you are referring to tail pre comp. This firmware version does not do tail pre comp. The next firmware version will support.

06-17-2012, 08:29 PM	#21 (permalink)
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06-30-2012, 02:51 PM	#25 (permalink)
Spork01 Fear the Spork!! Join Date: Mar 2008	The Hobbymate HB800 FBL gyro is now in stock at hobbycool http://www.hobbycool.com/hobbymate-f...ers-p-715.html __________________ Trex 450L, OMP M2, Futaba 14SG

06-30-2012, 09:02 PM	#26 (permalink)
Spork01 Fear the Spork!! Join Date: Mar 2008	a video from one of the test pilots __________________ Trex 450L, OMP M2, Futaba 14SG

07-03-2012, 12:47 PM	#27 (permalink)
Airman0386 Registered Users Join Date: May 2011 Location: UT	So this HB800, or the tarot XYZ, or the copterx 3X1000? __________________ mCP X \|\|\| mCP X BL \|\|\| 130X \|\|\| 250 FBL \|\|\| 250 FBL #2 \|\|\| 450 Sport V2 FBL \|\|\| 450 Pro FBL \|\|\| X5 \|\|\| DX6i

06-23-2012, 12:54 AM	#23 (permalink)
Razors Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2011	Perhaps i need one of these on a Tarot 450

07-03-2012, 05:31 PM	#28 (permalink)
khogan Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2010	lol even cloned the beastx description http://www.beastx.com/products.html http://www.hobbycool.com/hobbymate-f...ers-p-715.html Attached Thumbnails

07-03-2012, 07:06 PM	#29 (permalink)
mayday1 Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2007	This hobbymate FBL seems to be a clone of beastx v1, which seems outrageous. I wonder if it is sanctioned by microbeastx itself to create a lower cost alternative to compete with the new crop of cheap FBL controllers like tarot, copterX, ...etc. If it is an outright stealing of IP, I would expect you can get a HB800 and update it to beastX v2.0 firmware and beyond. The fact that you'll turn it to a brick if you try to update indicates that they've actively changed something to make it different. Without source code of the original beastx it'll not be an easy task. Besides, why would they deliberately limit the upgrade path of this FBL unless it is in cooperation with beastx? Just my conspiracy theory :-)

07-03-2012, 08:15 PM	#30 (permalink)
khogan Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2010	http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...&postcount=238 "I also want clarify a couple of things. 1. the HB800 currently does not support satellites 2. The HB800 currently does not support sbus. these features will be coming later when we update the firmware ." It sounds like they will update the firmware, and right now there is not futaba/spektrum support. I think with these clone units they are already making them for so cheap they would rather just sell a new one instead of making firmware updates. I doubt microbeast is working with them to make a cheaper unit. My conspiracy theory is that the BeastX I have says made in Germany but where is the spektrum/beastx unit made? Probably China so they got their hands on some code and made this unit.

07-03-2012, 08:50 PM	#31 (permalink)
mayday1 Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2007	I've never seen a AR7200BX, but I think they are made in china, so may be the code could be lifted. But I doubt the firmware of the AR7200BX is from v1.0 instead of the latest version, further more I suspect it contains a satellite inside rather than a full receiver. There is no point in converting the digital channel data into a PPM signal and then reconvert it back to a digital value if I were to integrate a receiver with a gyro. I agree with you in that I doubt they are actively working on the firmware. If they did a clean room implementation, why would they use v1.0 as target instead of v2.0 or v3.0? I some how they got a copy of v1.0 firmware, without the source code it wouldn't be easy to hack in satellite support.

07-04-2012, 05:49 AM	#32 (permalink)
koenigsegg Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2010	Does anyone have the pdf file? __________________ 3DX450A, 3000kv Scorpion, Castle ICE 50, HS-5065MG swash, Spartan Quark, Futaba S9257, Hyperion 3s 2500mAH, AR6200, DX6i, Align flybarless DFC/Tarot 2 blade tail, or CopterX 4blade/Heliartist 3 blade raised tail, Rotor Tech Carbons.

07-04-2012, 10:18 PM	#33 (permalink)
Airman0386 Registered Users Join Date: May 2011 Location: UT	Need advice on which to buy! Which tail holds better? HB800, Tarot XYZ, or the CopterX CX-3X1000? __________________ mCP X \|\|\| mCP X BL \|\|\| 130X \|\|\| 250 FBL \|\|\| 250 FBL #2 \|\|\| 450 Sport V2 FBL \|\|\| 450 Pro FBL \|\|\| X5 \|\|\| DX6i

07-05-2012, 03:11 AM	#34 (permalink)
clicky Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2007	At least someone went some length to do different PCB - not just steal whole lot and package it in cheap plastic case. LOL :p

07-05-2012, 10:51 AM	#35 (permalink)
Stevemech Join Date: Mar 2011	I couldn't resist, I ordered one to replace my cx3x1000(for sale cheap).I installed a Robird g31 on my Beam and couldn't be happier so I hope this one is similar. Steve

07-06-2012, 08:13 AM	#37 (permalink)
Stevemech Join Date: Mar 2011	Very cool, look forward to seeing your video! Steve

07-06-2012, 10:23 AM	#38 (permalink)
MTDV Registered Users Join Date: Aug 2007	I cannot believe that...a Beastx similarity..., and dirt cheap. I will get one eventually when I get a chance. Beastx is good but too expensive. A good clone is better. Last edited by MTDV; 07-06-2012 at 10:25 AM.. Reason: Actually not a clone - it's similar.

07-06-2012, 08:06 PM	#39 (permalink)
w4llet Registered Users Join Date: Mar 2011	does it have pyro compensation?

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