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05-03-2015, 02:51 AM | #1 (permalink) |
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Mini Protos *essential* upgrades?
Now that I have a chance to upgrade...
What upgrades are essential, as far as control quality and time between overhaul is concerned? Specifically, is any of this unnecessary fluff?
One of Lynx upgrades I'm already using is LX1185-A, CNC Motor Pinion Support, and I'd say it's worth it. Is there anything else that is useful, but less known?
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05-03-2015, 03:00 AM | #2 (permalink) |
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The only upgrade you need is the lynx solid pinion and a upgrade that is good to have is the tail slider. Aside from that you don't need anything else but some people really like the lynx tail and head.
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05-03-2015, 03:56 AM | #3 (permalink) |
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The stock tail pitch lever tends to flex in flight so the lynx one is nice.
Other than that, I run the lynx belt tensionner to help fix my belt slipping on motor pinion issue, but that's not necessary unless you're running a scorpion 2520 or a Xnova 2618. I've heard of the MSH alu belt pulleys being a bit too small and allowing the belt to come off near the motor. As with the rest of the MSH alu stuff, they don't add anything to the heli apart from weight and looks.
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05-03-2015, 04:55 AM | #4 (permalink) |
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I haven't had mine long but have racked up over 50 flights, it's a solid heli so like others have mentioned get the lynx pinion, and put the rest of your funds towards crash parts.
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05-03-2015, 05:24 AM | #5 (permalink) |
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No upgrades on both of mine (not entirely true, one has metal pulleys and metal tail pulley, both are bling IMO). Although I have the Lynx tail pitch lever and the Lynx pinions sitting in my parts box. I must say the parts box flies much better with them
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05-03-2015, 04:39 PM | #6 (permalink) |
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Lynx pinion and tail pitch lever. The rest is bling
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05-03-2015, 08:56 PM | #7 (permalink) |
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Interesting viewpoint. It may be shiny and pretty but the "bling" upgrades the MSH and Lynx sell employ a form following function approach - Example - the DFC head improves cyclic feel, lowers the blades closer to the airframe increasing roll rates, and eliminates the spongy plastic grips for a more direct feel while decreasing part count. Would you consider that bling? The reason these parts even exist is because people made enough of a fuss about them that companies like Lynx and MSH listened and worked to develop improvements.
"bling" is a term thrown around very loosely. I would consider bling something that replaces a part with no functional improvement only to change the aesthetic appearance of the machine. That, I agree with you, is a waste of money.
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05-03-2015, 09:25 PM | #8 (permalink) | |
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I've bought a DFC head for my mCPX BL quite a while ago, still waiting for it to fall apart so I can replace it with the stock head and see if it was worth it
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05-04-2015, 01:43 AM | #9 (permalink) | |
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I was referring to the pulleys and supports I'm not fan of DFC heads. Probably because I'm not good enough pilot to notice the difference. |
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05-04-2015, 07:28 AM | #10 (permalink) |
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05-04-2015, 07:37 AM | #11 (permalink) |
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These are the two I have done, or are doing.
I replaced the tail pitch lever after I was having wag during funnels in the wind. I haven't seen the wag since, but I'm nut sure I have repeated that scenario exactly to be sure. I was just now forced to do something with the pinion. I probably got about 30 flights out of the stock pinion. I had a spare on hand, but I'm replacing it with the solid pinion to avoid future trouble. It took out the Y bracket by eating into the plastic so I bought the Lynx aluminum Y bracket as well. I just like the idea of metal for the shaft support but I wouldn't call it mandatory. I did replace the bearing blocks with the aluminum versions during my initial build because I didn't find that the plastic blocks kept the three bearings in alignment to my satisfaction. Most people are happy with the stock blocks though. Rick
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05-04-2015, 07:55 AM | #12 (permalink) |
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Funny this came up, I am just finishing up the rescued Mini from the FS forums...
Lynx everything on this one: DFC head, Full CNC tail, Boom supports, Boom clamp, Tail servo mount, CNC pinion support, CNC belt tensioner, Carbon LG, Tail fins, Canopy, Solid pinion. MSH CNC servo mounts and pulleys to come. I will be adding these when I add the electronics. All necessary, No.... I do run the tail lever on all of mine as well as CNC pulleys, but other than that pretty much stock up to this point. Looking forward to trying this setup out. Really like the new LG, a bit narrower than stock but really gets the tail up and out of the way. |
05-04-2015, 06:43 PM | #13 (permalink) |
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Are the Lynx skids a direct replacement for the stock ones or do they require some modification to fit properly?
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05-04-2015, 06:45 PM | #14 (permalink) |
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I don't know if they're better than stock, or better looking, but I'm not replacing the stock ones - had three cases where the heli dropped from considerable altitude (first time it was basically a 10ft freefall), with zero damage to the helicopter. They stay on mine.
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05-04-2015, 07:21 PM | #15 (permalink) | |
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If there's one thing I'm never upgrading on my mini prôtos it's the skids. The stock ones (well, the yellow version for visibility) really are the best. Unbreakable, absorb shocks, what else ? Oh and you can skid really well with them. Or use some spare head dampeners on them for a safe take-off and landing from a small elevated area (like my taranis case when I fly off grass).
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05-04-2015, 07:27 PM | #16 (permalink) |
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Bolt on, CNC base supports with replaceable CF skids.
I like the stock gear myself (never let me down) but figured I would try the lynx setup as long as I went as far as I did with this one... |
05-04-2015, 08:37 PM | #17 (permalink) |
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Keep as many cheap plastic parts as u can it will make you wallet happy.aluminum pulleys can keep vibs down I have noticed the tail pulley always gets flat spots in it and can cause a tail twitch
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05-05-2015, 08:54 AM | #18 (permalink) | |
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I got to test them last weekend as well. Worked well for me. I also really like the stock yellow skids, but with a stretch, my tail fin was digging into the ground every time I take off and land and I had to be very careful where and how I landed with the stock skids or I'd start digging into the ground with the tail blades. Not good. The Lynx skids got the tail nice and clear of the ground. The aluminum supports I really like the carbon gear is nice enough. However, I do not like how stiff they are and I don't like the fact that they are narrower than stock. I was nervous about that fact when trying them - narrower, taller, and stiffer could make for an easy tip over. I tried them on nice soft turf and luckily it was no problem at all. Heli took right off and landed no issues. Whatever works right?
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05-05-2015, 07:21 PM | #19 (permalink) |
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I'm not a fan of DFC, it works ok on the warp but that's a true DFC setup rigid with no dampers. I tried the align DFC and hated it and as already mentioned sab have gone away from it. I think some people just like the sound of the DFC heads as they make more noise and give the effect of feeling momore powerful. Plus I hate changing servo gears every time you crash with DFC, realy grin ds my gears.
All of the linx upgrades look nice though and if I had some money burning a hole in my pocket I would build a second mini p blinged out to compare. |
05-05-2015, 07:39 PM | #20 (permalink) |
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essential is such a subjective term... I always felt the weak point I noticed with the mini was the tail.. mainly when I started learning funnels I could easily blow the tail out. So I went the pitch slider.. but my plastic tail case wasn't square, so it would not slide freely... even with some manual manipulation to try and get it square.. Then I decided to just do the whole tail.. and it slider became silky smooth.. also with the design, its easy to replace the belt.
Thrusted tail grips are nice as well. so many times I have had bad tail bearings causing bad tail performance.. But I do no like how the blade bolts dont use a lock nut... just a personal preference.... I like the boom clamp, as I always take off that horizontal fin anyway, and the boom supports are cool... break the supports.. slip the ends off cut some carbon to fit, and away you go... also I run an xnova in it.. and unless you go a 13t pinion, I found the gearing to high.. so I went the lynx solid pinon.... so looks like I am a bit of a lynx whore.. but man it does fly nice... pity the power train was not designed for a 6s powerhouse.. I already know a few die hard mini fans moving to the goblin 380, as they are tired of destroying belts every few weeks... |
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